I've got launch unit DS Phat that I bought used off of ebay about a year ago or so. It still works fine but the outside is a bit scuffed and the touch screen has one scratch that I got from something that was on my cleaning cloth (grrr) I finally broke down and picked up one of the gold Zelda DS lites as a Christmas present, but I still plan on using the DS phat for games that support trading such as pokemon, DQM Joker, etc.