Do you feel transgender people should be able to use their preferred bathrooms

[Norris]

You have a lot of bs lip service but seemingly no actual interest in creating a safer world for people who don’t fit your view of the gender binary. You aren’t helping anyone other than assuaging your own guilt for being transphobic. Gtfoh.

“We can’t do that because it doesn’t fit how I view the world, I don’t care what the actual people affected by this say or want.” This is you, over and over again.

i dont mean boys as in a mtf i mean boys in the boys bathroom hurting a trans boy

 

[Beware]

i literally stated i think people should do what they want I'm not worried about trans people in worried because i know in my school if a trans boy walked into the boys restroom they would be bullyed i dont like that but its just how it is unfortantly how do i have prejudice?

Because you’re pushing your perspective on other people with no regard for what they want/need. You’re claiming a moral imperative that literally disregards the people in question and tells them “no you can’t be who you want to be because I have an incessant need to white knight for you even though I have no interest or ability to improve your material existence.”

Trans men are men, trans women are women. You can’t even make your point without spouting textbook transphobic talking points.

 

[Norris]

Because you’re pushing your perspective on other people with no regard for what they want/need. You’re claiming a moral imperative that literally disregards the people in question and tells them “no you can’t be who you want to be because I have an incessant need to white knight for you even though I have no interest or ability to improve your material existence.”

Trans men are men, trans women are women. You can’t even make your point without spouting textbook transphobic talking points.

I literally said in my post this is my opinion and I want to hear others and in what way am i spouting transphobic textbook talking points i belive that school bathrooms should be safer for all i understand that a trans boy wants to use the boys bathroom but that will never happen not because of them but because the boys in there will do terrible things

 

[Norris]

and you calling me transphobic is the dumbest thing ive heard in this whole convo what part is transphobic i want trans people to be safe and unfortanley a trans boy in a boys bathroom is not safe because i know the trans boy will get bullyed

 

[Beware]

I literally said in my post this is my opinion and I want to hear others and in what way am i spouting transphobic textbook talking points i belive that school bathrooms should be safer for all i understand that a trans boy wants to use the boys bathroom but that will never happen not because of them but because the boys in there will do terrible things

At least make ANY effort to read my posts instead of clutching your pearls. You’re saying children should not be allowed to express themselves because you fear they will be bullied. Do you think trans people don’t already know this? Do you truthfully think people who are tasked with fighting literal bigotry every waking moment to justify their own existence are not aware of these things?

“I’m not spouting transphobia”
No you are you’re simply too bigoted to understand what you’re saying. Your “opinion” is bigotry. You believe that a child should be “protected” by forcing them to hide their identity. That’s fucked up to anyone with a brain.

 

[ChiefReginod]

I wouldn't mind at all if a trans male used the men's bathroom.

Trans women using the women's bathroom is a more delicate matter since most of the women I've talked about this with IRL have said it would make them feel either uncomfortable or afraid. I can't tell them that they're wrong since I'm a male and I don't have the same experience or concerns.

 

[Norris]

At least make ANY effort to read my posts instead of clutching your pearls. You’re saying children should not be allowed to express themselves because you fear they will be bullied. Do you think trans people don’t already know this? Do you truthfully think people who are tasked with fighting literal bigotry every waking moment to justify their own existence are not aware of these things?

“I’m not spouting transphobia”
No you are you’re simply too bigoted to understand what you’re saying. Your “opinion” is bigotry. You believe that a child should be “protected” by forcing them to hide their identity. That’s fucked up to anyone with a brain.

If you read my post i didnt say they should be forced to hide their identity i think all schools should have lgbtq bathrooms and if they wish to use there desired ones sure

 

[Norris]

I wouldn't mind at all if a trans male used the men's bathroom.

Trans women using the women's bathroom is a more delicate matter since most of the women I've talked about this with IRL have said it would make them feel either uncomfortable or afraid. I can't tell them that they're wrong since I'm a male and I don't have the same experience or concerns.

i know you wouldnt mind but like in the south oh god how terrible they would get bullied

 

[Beware]

I wouldn't mind at all if a trans male used the men's bathroom.

Trans women using the women's bathroom is a more delicate matter since most of the women I've talked about this with IRL have said it would make them feel either uncomfortable or afraid. I can't tell them that they're wrong since I'm a male and I don't have the same experience or concerns.

Then those people are transphobic as well. No trans person is using a bathroom to sneak a peek. Harassment is illegal wherever it happens. You’re backing this ridiculous notion that men are predators and trans women are men therefore trans women are predators. That’s not only deeply bigoted but completely not in line with REALITY.

the idea that you can’t be transphobic because this is your opinion and it’s rooted in “safety” shows you literally don’t even understand the issue at play here. You have multiple times made the distinction between “real” boys and trans boys. That is itself transphobic. Why is this forum so concerned with what genitals a child has? Y’all need therapy

 

[Norris]

Then those people are transphobic as well. No trans person is using a bathroom to sneak a peek. Harassment is illegal wherever it happens. You’re backing this ridiculous notion that men are predators and trans women are men therefore trans women are predators. That’s not only deeply bigoted but completely not in line with REALITY.

the idea that you can’t be transphobic because this is your opinion and it’s rooted in “safety” shows you literally don’t even understand the issue at play here. You have multiple times made the distinction between “real” boys and trans boys. That is itself transphobic. Why is this forum so concerned with what genitals a child has? Y’all need therapy

your right trans people are not doing they i mean people faking being trans

 

[Beware]

your right trans people are not doing they i mean people faking being trans

THIS ISNT REAL! You seem the type to claim rapists are innocent because their victims are lying. Bathroom laws or not will NOT stop a predator being a predator, it just leaves people unable to express themselves and feel comfortable doing something as meaningless and normal as taking a shit.

If you think you can tell someone is trans just by looking at them then you are a bigot with as much understanding of basic biology as a bar of soap

 

[ChiefReginod]

Then those people are transphobic as well. No trans person is using a bathroom to sneak a peek. Harassment is illegal wherever it happens. You’re backing this ridiculous notion that men are predators and trans women are men therefore trans women are predators. That’s not only deeply bigoted but completely not in line with REALITY.

the idea that you can’t be transphobic because this is your opinion and it’s rooted in “safety” shows you literally don’t even understand the issue at play here. You have multiple times made the distinction between “real” boys and trans boys. That is itself transphobic. Why is this forum so concerned with what genitals a child has? Y’all need therapy

I think you replied to the wrong person. That was my first and only post in this thread.

 

[Beware]

I think you replied to the wrong person. That was my first and only post in this thread.

That was aimed at you and the OP but your position is not less heinous

 

[Norris]

THIS ISNT REAL! You seem the type to claim rapists are innocent because their victims are lying. Bathroom laws or not will NOT stop a predator being a predator, it just leaves people unable to express themselves and feel comfortable doing something as meaningless and normal as taking a shit.

i literally have said nothing about supporting rapist i mean that if bathrooms were just urinal no urinal boys would take advatange of it stop assuming the worst of people cause they have a different view?

 

[Beware]

i literally have said nothing about supporting rapist i mean that if bathrooms were just urinal no urinal boys would take advatange of it stop assuming the worst of people cause they have a different view?

I’m not assuming anything. You have made your points clear and I am telling you outright they are not rooted in anything to do with reality and is a matter of you clutching your pearls to deflect from your deep seated bias

 

[Norris]

THIS ISNT REAL! You seem the type to claim rapists are innocent because their victims are lying. Bathroom laws or not will NOT stop a predator being a predator, it just leaves people unable to express themselves and feel comfortable doing something as meaningless and normal as taking a shit.

If you think you can tell someone is trans just by looking at them then you are a bigot with as much understanding of basic biology as a bar of soap

saying bathroom laws or not will not affect anything is a blatant lie if no bathroom laws existed and it was bathroom with urinal bathroom without urinal boys would take advantage of it

 

[Norris]

I’m not assuming anything. You have made your points clear and I am telling you outright they are not rooted in anything to do with reality and is a matter of you clutching your pearls to deflect from your deep seated bias

how is it not reality i have seen it first hand of boys at my school being extremely inappropriate

 

[Beware]

saying bathroom laws or not will not affect anything is a blatant lie if no bathroom laws existed and it was bathroom with urinal bathroom without urinal boys would take advantage of it

“Boys will do this.”

Sounds like you’re a predator, frankly. And I’ve already addressed this multiple times. You do NOT protect people by stripping them of their basic rights. What the fuck is wrong with you?

“It’s for their own good” is how bigoted policies have been written into law for hundreds of years. This is how the Jews were pushed out of their homes in Germany. This was how slave culture dominated the US fo hundreds of years after it was deemed unconstitutional. There is no world where “these people shouldn’t get this basic right because it would harm them” is anything other than bigoted rhetoric disguised as concern.

 

[ChiefReginod]

That was aimed at you and the OP but your position is not less heinous

Well, all I can say is that I'm completely ok with trans men using the men's bathroom and I don't see why it should be a problem. But I'm not going to tell women what they have to be okay with, because that's something they should be able to decide for themselves.

 

[Norris]

“Boys will do this.”

Sounds like you’re a predator, frankly. And I’ve already addressed this multiple times. You do NOT protect people by stripping them of their basic rights. What the fuck is wrong with you?

first, off its just true ok boys will i don't wish it was that way and it is boys will if you dont understand that you need a reality check most rapes are woman raped by boys most people who watch porn are boys its sad but very very true and im not saying we should strip them of there rights im saying they should have their own bathroom IF THEY WISH TO