Hacking Crown3ds flashcard - Hacking your 3DS and playing 3DS games

[Ericthegreat]

Really I don't think nintendo cares much.... Maybe the software developers investors do, but I doubt even that.

 

[dilav]

Is this legit? Legal for homebrew?

Although I haven't read much or read peoples comment. It sounds like a old school game copier. You can copy a game on there and the cart acts as that game. It probably cannot run homebrew if this is the case as the games, and what not must be signed.

 

[Immortal_no1]

it won't be able to run homebrew as the digital signature checks on the images will fail as since it's homebrew it won't have any digital signatures because the roms for homebrew would never be signed by Nintendo. So stop talking about homebew for the moment.... like another 6 months. Looks like you;ll be able to play games one at a time, that's good enough for me.

 

[zhantshen]

well the problem is that this is not a fireware hack but rather a storage media spoof.
if the card can be matured and titled /w it's own logo, nintendo could just easily ban the card, just like dsi at the beginning.

unless we can get some kenel exploit, or i would still doubt the livability of this card.

 

[ManFranceGermany]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Nintendo never said its unbreakable, where did u get that bulls*it from?
They said they will make it as tough as possible to crack it and lets see some facts:
- The Crown3DS isn't ready yet
- No informations how it will exactly work (maybe u need to flash the Bootstraps for each game into Flash)
- Even if the Crown3Ds is accessible and easy to use like Flashcards today, Nintendo wont sit back and let them do.
- We will see a lot of FW Updates and I suppose new Games will be able to use new ways of AP (not talking about FW AP, but Hardware AP, like for example Dongle Chips in each card)


Everything will be one day cracked, even Sony admits, that they will make it hard to hack the PS Vita, but they know hackers will reach one day there goal.

 

[Weaselpipe]

I still don't know what to think of this. I usually wait to get flashcarts until there's some worthwhile homebrew available to play with- that's not to say I don't pirate games by the way- however, I promised myself I'd avoid pirating on the 3DS but am already tempted by this just to see how well it works...

It isn't worth it yet anyway, it's the first one and will thusfore be improved upon massively as soon as it is released.

A little concerned by the Crown3ds group answering "we are working hard on it. Thanks" to almost everything. "Are you finished in the bathroom, Crown3ds?" "Thanks, we are working hard on it".....

 

[spinal_cord]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Premature LOL friend. The system is not in any way broken, not has it been hacked. When you copy music from one audio cassette to an other, then played the copied song on your stereo, do you then say your stereo has been hacked? No, you don't.
Being able to run a 1:1 copy of some software from a different device is about as far away as you can get from 'hacking' a system. For the 3DS to be called hacked, someone would have to find a way to run unsigned native code on it, which nobody has done, therefore, '6months to break' is not only optimistic, it's just plain wrong. Until the first real 'Hello World' appears and people can run it themselves, you can be certain that the 3DS security is fully in tact an unbroken.

 

[LTK]

Nintendo is sending its best swat members to their house now, yoshi and mario will be breaking through their glass any minute.

 

[KazoWAR]

I bet Nintendo can block this by attempting to overwrite some data on the ROM chip and then checking it.

 

[BadBloke]

The ROM chip is probably emulated, so the flashcart firmware will easily counter this by write-protecting the internal memory in 3DS mode.

 

[T.Kuranari]

While I don't think that this flashcart itself has anything to do with hacking, I though believe that it opens up possibilities of finding exploits in retail games.

 

[Thrust]

Its strange how it seems like all the threads before were so excited for a 3DS flashcart, and now that one appears to be complete the community is in an uproar, I just dont understand it. A 3DS flash cart would be a nice way to save a few bucks, or to give games a try I wouldnt otherwise pick up, But even as a veteran pirate I'd rather not do so on this system, especially with the vita coming out so soon. Nintendo needs all the help they can get on this one.


Also yes this thread temporarily brought me out of hiding, always was more of a lurker than a poster around here

 

[deathking]

from what ive seen online the store allegedly told a supplier they are thinking the cart may be up and running within 2 months - rough estimate

 

[Crimson Phantom]

Its strange how it seems like all the threads before were so excited for a 3DS flashcart, and now that one appears to be complete the community is in an uproar, I just dont understand it. A 3DS flash cart would be a nice way to save a few bucks, or to give games a try I wouldnt otherwise pick up, But even as a veteran pirate I'd rather not do so on this system, especially with the vita coming out so soon. Nintendo needs all the help they can get on this one.


Also yes this thread temporarily brought me out of hiding, always was more of a lurker than a poster around here

Something that people want so badly is suddenly announced with no proof - of course there are going to be concerns. People are going to be angry too if this is fake.

 

[Extreme Coder]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Premature LOL friend. The system is not in any way broken, not has it been hacked. When you copy music from one audio cassette to an other, then played the copied song on your stereo, do you then say your stereo has been hacked? No, you don't.
Being able to run a 1:1 copy of some software from a different device is about as far away as you can get from 'hacking' a system. For the 3DS to be called hacked, someone would have to find a way to run unsigned native code on it, which nobody has done, therefore, '6months to break' is not only optimistic, it's just plain wrong. Until the first real 'Hello World' appears and people can run it themselves, you can be certain that the 3DS security is fully in tact an unbroken.

Do you really think Nintendo cares about whether or not you can run unsigned code? As far as they're concerned, the ability to run games from a flashcart means the system has been 'hacked' from their point of view.

 

[mechagouki]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Premature LOL friend. The system is not in any way broken, not has it been hacked. When you copy music from one audio cassette to an other, then played the copied song on your stereo, do you then say your stereo has been hacked? No, you don't.
Being able to run a 1:1 copy of some software from a different device is about as far away as you can get from 'hacking' a system. For the 3DS to be called hacked, someone would have to find a way to run unsigned native code on it, which nobody has done, therefore, '6months to break' is not only optimistic, it's just plain wrong. Until the first real 'Hello World' appears and people can run it themselves, you can be certain that the 3DS security is fully in tact an unbroken.

Do you really think Nintendo cares about whether or not you can run unsigned code? As far as they're concerned, the ability to run games from a flashcart means the system has been 'hacked' from their point of view.

Actually, you're wrong, what it means is that their removable media solution has been hacked, the 3DS remains unaltered. while the Crown team may have imitated the copy protection contained within a 3DS pak, this does not currently give them any ability to change things on the 3DS itself, it remains the same machine, before and after being used with the Crown system.

 

[adriande2]

At the moment, it seem like it emulates the rom 1:1. It does not appear to be anywhere close to a flashcard that could be sold. As I've seen it can only play commercial roms. Even if you could use homebrew with this, it looks like you would have to use software to switch what game can be used, causing some trouble.

I know it's the first flashcard for the 3DS but I want to see SD/MicroSD card usage, an interface, and homebrew being used.

 

[RupeeClock]

At the moment, it seem like it emulates the rom 1:1. It does not appear to be anywhere close to a flashcard that could be sold. As I've seen it can only play commercial roms. Even if you could use homebrew with this, it looks like you would have to use software to switch what game can be used, causing some trouble.

I know it's the first flashcard for the 3DS but I want to see SD/MicroSD card usage, an interface, and homebrew being used.

It's been said in the thread a few times already, but one of the last things to get developed is a GUI that can load the ROM.
Right now this appears to be a simple proof-of-concept for the loading of a ROM onto the 3DS. Once they improve on the rom compatibility to a good standard, they'll begin developing software and hardware ideal for a flashcart.

Basically they're still doing research and development. At the very least we can expect something that will load "rom.3DS" off of a microSD card, but we can hopefully expect a simple GUI for loading a ROM file from a file list.

 

[Extreme Coder]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Premature LOL friend. The system is not in any way broken, not has it been hacked. When you copy music from one audio cassette to an other, then played the copied song on your stereo, do you then say your stereo has been hacked? No, you don't.
Being able to run a 1:1 copy of some software from a different device is about as far away as you can get from 'hacking' a system. For the 3DS to be called hacked, someone would have to find a way to run unsigned native code on it, which nobody has done, therefore, '6months to break' is not only optimistic, it's just plain wrong. Until the first real 'Hello World' appears and people can run it themselves, you can be certain that the 3DS security is fully in tact an unbroken.

Do you really think Nintendo cares about whether or not you can run unsigned code? As far as they're concerned, the ability to run games from a flashcart means the system has been 'hacked' from their point of view.

Actually, you're wrong, what it means is that their removable media solution has been hacked, the 3DS remains unaltered. while the Crown team may have imitated the copy protection contained within a 3DS pak, this does not currently give them any ability to change things on the 3DS itself, it remains the same machine, before and after being used with the Crown system.

Using the Crown 3DS, you can pirate 3DS games. That is all what matters in the end to Nintendo, you did not buy original software.

 

[Carnivean]

LOL nintendo said it would be unhackable and it took 6months to break it open and this will lead to even bigger things in about 3months i see the 3ds being complely open you can bet one damn thing nintendo is shitting there pants right now

Premature LOL friend. The system is not in any way broken, not has it been hacked. When you copy music from one audio cassette to an other, then played the copied song on your stereo, do you then say your stereo has been hacked? No, you don't.
Being able to run a 1:1 copy of some software from a different device is about as far away as you can get from 'hacking' a system. For the 3DS to be called hacked, someone would have to find a way to run unsigned native code on it, which nobody has done, therefore, '6months to break' is not only optimistic, it's just plain wrong. Until the first real 'Hello World' appears and people can run it themselves, you can be certain that the 3DS security is fully in tact an unbroken.

Do you really think Nintendo cares about whether or not you can run unsigned code? As far as they're concerned, the ability to run games from a flashcart means the system has been 'hacked' from their point of view.

Actually, you're wrong, what it means is that their removable media solution has been hacked, the 3DS remains unaltered. while the Crown team may have imitated the copy protection contained within a 3DS pak, this does not currently give them any ability to change things on the 3DS itself, it remains the same machine, before and after being used with the Crown system.

Using the Crown 3DS, you can pirate 3DS games. That is all what matters in the end to Nintendo, you did not buy original software.

Doesn't change the fact you were wrong about it being hacked.