https://www.ice.gov/coronavirus#detStat
https://www.axios.com/ice-immigrants-covid-vaccine-ee9406fe-7d83-4dce-b5be-c158e0d39f81.html
https://nypost.com/2021/07/15/30-percent-of-migrants-in-border-facilities-refused-covid-shot-report/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ps...-immigrants-remain-unvaccinated-thats-correct
We may have the same NYpost article. The ICE website also does not specifically state the 30%, however it has solid numbers should you decide to check the math. I'm really hoping you spy the Fox News article.
The fox news article only references the nypost article. There is no real source at the bottom here. Even the axios article says that the numbers were not publicly released. There is no public source claiming 3/10.
Last I heard the U.S. government still has yet to push Covid vaccine mandates. They've pushed mask mandates, but unless I've missed something only companies, the private sector, are pushing mask mandates and weekly viral testing. So, maybe complain about that instead?
Originally, businesses were not allowed to open unless they followed social distancing and mask "guidelines".
Businesses complied because they didn't want to close down.
Recently, Biden made an executive order that OSHA must force businesses with 100+ employees to screen for vaccination.
If they aren't vaccinated, they must be masked and segregated from other employees.
The private sector does not push these guidelines because it costs them time and money to implement.
You're absolutely right. So far, though, I'm vaccinated and... I'm doing pretty good. I also got all my other vaccines too. Haven't mutated or been violently tracked either.
That's anecdotal evidence. I know people who have had adverse reactions the vaccine. Those experiences don't make either of us right/wrong.
God you're smart. You must be thinking the Covid vaccine is like the polio vaccine. You come across as someone who would refuse the polio vaccine and then get polio, and then blame science again. I hope I'm just reading what you've written wrong.
This is a strawman. You're pretending I'm anti-vaccination. I'm anti-vax mandate for untested vaccines.
In 10 years, when these various COVID vaccines have been studies and approved (not by emergency) then I won't mind getting it.
To pretend that COVID vaccine is as safe or well understood as a vaccine that has been around nearly 100 years is intellectually dishonest.
Uh huh. The Covid testing and mask mandates are the way to go for social division. Not civil rights, education, economy political affiliation, stuff like that. The government is using masks to divide us.
All of the above.
You got that from Wikipedia, didn't you? No, but really. Any, every virus that has run rampant over the history of mankind has had government intervention at some point. If they didn't, we'd probably still have Polio. Or the Bubonic plague.
Again, I'm not anti-vax. This is a strawman.
Yes, because big businesses have politicians in their pockets and vice versa. That's why some companies still have monopolies, which are technically outlawed. That's an unfortunate side effect, but not necessarily derived because of. Small businesses couldn't survive because of larger corporations providing convenience of things like delivery during the shutdown, something mom n pops style businesses couldn't compete with. Maybe instead of blaming the government, you should look at companies like Amazon that carve themselves such an edge that they freely dominate thousands of other start ups. Why didn't Amazon donate to keep these businesses open would be a better question to ask in the face of closing businesses during the pandemic.
Why would I blame Amazon for operating as usual?
Amazon is popular because they offer a good service.
They were already taking a lot of business away from brick and mortar stores.
You expect them to counter act government overreach and prop up their competitors?
Only the government can force businesses to close by fiat.
Amazons only guilty of providing a good service to people who had few options.
Thanks for that. Despite knowing what the actual quote referred to (it's actually part of my job to know stuff like), I was going in a different, more condescending direction. As far as showing my true intentions? I've never tried to hide my intentions. I think I'm pretty clear: hypocrisy is annoying, and some people just aren't fit to live in a progressive society. Anything else you think I'm hiding?
No, this is a lie. If you had understood the original phrase "tip your hand" you would not have replied "I tip my hat too".
You clearly misread what I wrote and didn't understand that your response didn't make sense.
This was a good opportunity to show good faith and be sincere. Unfortunate.
Actually you're putting way too much into the effort I may or may not have in wanting people to actively die. I really don't care who lives or dies outside of my loved ones; at the end of the day, it's ultimately your choice whether you want to contribute to a better society or to just die off at the back of the pack. But I'll make sure my kids and loved ones get vaccinated and stay safe; if you and yours die off before you've really experienced the majority of your life, so be it.
Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk. I literally can't wait for your response.
"if you and yours die off...so be it."
Thank you for proving my point.
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