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Covid-19 vaccine

Will you get the vaccine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 500 67.1%
  • No

    Votes: 245 32.9%

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I am glad to see the poll shifting more into “Yes.”
Not a single conspiracy about the vaccine has come to fruition and it’s very much showing to be effective.
No, it was all a conspiracy to regain control and cull the population and enforce a cashless society.

That's why nobody is still allowed outside and ATMs have disappeared completely and we're now at 50% of the 2019's global population.

Source: it's not my job to educate you just GOogle it sheep.
 

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No, it was all a conspiracy to regain control and cull the population and enforce a cashless society.

That's why nobody is still allowed outside and ATMs have disappeared completely and we're now at 50% of the 2019's global population.

Source: it's not my job to educate you just GOogle it sheep.
Duuuuude! You weren’t supposed to say the quiet part out loud! :nayps3:
 
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I'm all-for going cashless. Haven't used cash in a very long time, because it's disgusting, dangerous, and inconvenient.

Cashless benefits nobody but the government. CBDC in the UK if/when it comes into force spells the end of freedom in the UK, along with the massive amount of facial recognition and state surveillance cameras, It'll be a distopia. They will control your digital money, they'll be able to control how much you have and what you're allowed to spend it on. It's the end of the freedom in the west.
 

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Cashless benefits nobody but the government. CBDC in the UK if/when it comes into force spells the end of freedom in the UK, along with the massive amount of facial recognition and state surveillance cameras, It'll be a distopia. They will control your digital money, they'll be able to control how much you have and what you're allowed to spend it on. It's the end of the freedom in the west.
Cashless benefits plenty of people because banks are allowed to charge fees for a ton of shit, like withdrawing money that you only get via deposit or similar, and any businesses that need fresh cash for the till also pays a premium for it. The overhead with handling that is also given to the customers in form of higher prices.
In a lot of places cashless is becoming cheaper due to those things, and it ain't the government's fault beyond not regulating banks better.

Also you're pretty delusional if you think the government couldn't just seize your cash as well. Unless everything you do from start to finish is in cash only you're just as vulnerable now as you would be if actual cash would be a rarity. And if everything you do is in cash only they'll just seize it on the assumption you're using it for drug money or for tax evasion.
 

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Not a single conspiracy about the vaccine has come to fruition and it’s very much showing to be effective.
Everything you say is utter garbage. Its completely ineffective, pfizer admitted they didn't test it and its well known the secretory IGa is not made from the jab like it is with infection, so nasal mucousal compartmental protection from complement system activation is not achieved.

Lab leak, US senate report
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...irus-covid-origin-wuhan-lab-us-senate-report/

Covid-19 vaccination can induce multiple sclerosis via cross-reactive CD4+ T cells recognizing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and myelin peptides
https://pesquisa.bvsalud.org/global...019-ncov/resource/pt/covidwho-2138820?lang=en

AstraZeneca no longer available in Australia
There was a link between the AZ vaccine and a rare but serious side effect, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS)
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/...trazeneca-is-no-longer-available-in-australia

TGA Pfizer document shows Tissue distribution (lipid nanoparticles encapsulation RNA), it goes everywhere in all tissues (nanoparticle and messenger rna)
https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/foi-2389-06.pdf

Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19, (1 October 2022)
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/10/10/1651#

Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post-COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36597886/

A case of fatal multi-organ inflammation following COVID-19 vaccination
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1344622323000548

All-cause mortality increased correlated with higher 2021 vaccination uptake
https://www.researchgate.net/public...n_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_risk
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202302.0350/v1

of course i could go on and on but you trolls aren't worth the time.
 
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Everything you say is utter garbage. Its completely ineffective, pfizer admitted they didn't test it and its well known the secretory IGa is not made from the jab like it is with infection, so nasal mucousal compartmental protection from complement system activation is not achieved.

Lab leak, US senate report
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...irus-covid-origin-wuhan-lab-us-senate-report/

Covid-19 vaccination can induce multiple sclerosis via cross-reactive CD4+ T cells recognizing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and myelin peptides
https://pesquisa.bvsalud.org/global...019-ncov/resource/pt/covidwho-2138820?lang=en

AstraZeneca no longer available in Australia
There was a link between the AZ vaccine and a rare but serious side effect, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia (TTS)
https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/...trazeneca-is-no-longer-available-in-australia

TGA Pfizer document shows Tissue distribution (lipid nanoparticles encapsulation RNA), it goes everywhere in all tissues (nanoparticle and messenger rna)
https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/foi-2389-06.pdf

Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19, (1 October 2022)
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/10/10/1651#

Circulating Spike Protein Detected in Post-COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Myocarditis
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36597886/

A case of fatal multi-organ inflammation following COVID-19 vaccination
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1344622323000548

All-cause mortality increased correlated with higher 2021 vaccination uptake
https://www.researchgate.net/public...n_and_age-stratified_all-cause_mortality_risk
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202302.0350/v1

of course i could go on and on but you trolls aren't worth the time.
Let's break this down.
First, the fact that they were working on a vaccine before the virus got out isn't a shock, in fact, that's what virus research is about. Although it means that this was most likely a lab leak, it almost means that it was contained and researched before the leak. Research labs like these aren't that uncommon. Reading through the article and looking deeper, there seems to be more or less speculation beyond the notion of how it made the jump from animal to human.

The second point is completely misrepresented and I can tell since you didn't even post the article
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-WHO-COVID-multiple-sclerosis-591321248797
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8876469/

The third point is interesting but of course, being misrepresented as well. Although it's true that there's a rare possibility of TTS in elderly people that does not mean all of the vaccines are the problem. Medications do have side effects, many of which are missed in testing. It's not uncommon for recalls, bannings, and discontinuing due to these effects to show up in the general public. That being said, this case does not mean all of or even a faction of the conspiracies are true. This isn't even to say this vaccine is that harmful, even less intense vaccines have risks to them.

The fourth point, I fail to see the point you are trying to make as this isn't a secret nor an issue
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...r-enters-agreement-acuitas-therapeutics-lipid

The 5th point is an ongoing case study that has yet to confirm a link between the vaccine and the 76-year-old's death. It is worth noting that the cause does involve a man who was elderly and suffering from Parkinson’s disease. This isn't the say that a possible side-effect might have contributed to his death but Correlation does not imply causation. If this was the cause of the vaccines, we should expect to see a spike in deaths shortly after being vaccinated, something we simply don't seem to find. There are very few cases that are still being studied.

The 6th point is a known side effect that does clear up after a week to 2 weeks. Although the cause is still unknown, there have been no reported long-term side effects or deaths related to this side effect. Although, I do believe this is disclosed before getting the vaccine, as are all side effects. This is also why people are asked to wait in the office after getting vaccinated and encouraged to contact their doctor or go to the ER if anything serious were to happen. Once again, side effects are an unfortunate reality for medicine but as they are temporary, it does beat the possible harms caused by Covid.

The 7th point is rather tragic but much like the 5th one, it's an ongoing case and an extremely rare case at that. With only a few cases of serious side effects, it's very much cherry-picking to present them as if these are widespread issues.

Finally, you are once again misrepresenting the research
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10043280/

You can cherry-pick random articles but it's clear that you are leaving out details and misrepresenting the articles you are presenting. I might add, I am referencing the very sources you presented as I actually went and read through them. I also followed up on reading their sources and searching for additional sources. You aren't the first person to present this list to me as y'all really seem to love to share the same links that you didn't read or research.
 
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can i ask you a question, did you read this before you actually posted it?
Considering I wrote the post, yes. But also considering English isn't my best language, I can say some grammar issues are always present in my post. That being said, can you point to the issue in my post and explain why it's an issue?
 

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bro do you even use this website for what its intended for or are you just a terminally online loser who was deplatformed from everywhere else?

who are you again?
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Considering I wrote the post, yes. But also considering English isn't my best language, I can say some grammar issues are always present in my post. That being said, can you point to the issue in my post and explain why it's an issue?

i wasnt really interested in the grammar, im not one of those people, i get it, its the internet, hence why i dont waste my time with proper punctuation, but the reason i ask is, the latter half is an objective lie, there are many " conspiracy theories" of covid that turned out to be 1000% true, which disappointed me because i thought you seemed slightly more intelligent than some of the others.
 

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who are you again?
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i wasnt really interested in the grammar, im not one of those people, i get it, its the internet, hence why i dont waste my time with proper punctuation, but the reason i ask is, the latter half is an objective lie, there are many " conspiracy theories" of covid that turned out to be 1000% true, which disappointed me because i thought you seemed slightly more intelligent than some of the others.
Can you provide them? It seems like each time "evidence" is presented to back up conspiracies they are often half-truths, misinterpreted, misrepresented, missing wider context, or extremely fringe cases with additional factors either missing or omitted. For these to be "1000% true," they would first need to be accurate to what's being presented or represented. If you look at this post here, I do note the factual parts of their arguments but then present the wider context or missing details. This isn't to say that there isn't truth mixed in these conspiracies but it is to say that the truth is often misrepresented or distorted. It's accurate to say that none of the conspiracies have come true as it requires either ignorance or malice to consider them to be accurate with reality.
 

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Can you provide them? It seems like each time "evidence" is presented to back up conspiracies they are often half-truths, misinterpreted, misrepresented, missing wider context, or extremely fringe cases with additional factors either missing or omitted. For these to be "1000% true," they would first need to be accurate to what's being presented or represented. If you look at this post here, I do note the factual parts of their arguments but then present the wider context or missing details. This isn't to say that there isn't truth mixed in these conspiracies but it is to say that the truth is often misrepresented or distorted. It's accurate to say that none of the conspiracies have come true as it requires either ignorance or malice to consider them to be accurate with reality.

sure i have an easy one. one " conspiracy theory" was that the virus could spread after you got the vaccine, the liberal gods swore up and down you couldnt, and it was wrong, but if anyone said it during the time, they were threatened, and accused of being murderers.
 

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sure i have an easy one. one " conspiracy theory" was that the virus could spread after you got the vaccine, the liberal gods swore up and down you couldnt, and it was wrong, but if anyone said it during the time, they were threatened, and accused of being murderers.
I don't know many cases where people said that you couldn't get the virus after being vaccinated and even the studies showed that it only lowered in the best of cases but in the majority of cases the vaccines lessened the harm and greatly reduced the risk of death from Covid. The same can be said of all vaccines. It's incorrect to assume vaccines are going to completely prevent infection. If the general population believed it would completely prevent getting sick, then sadly they were either misinformed or completely ignorant as to how vaccines actually work.
 

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I don't know many cases where people said that you couldn't get the virus after being vaccinated and even the studies showed that it only lowered in the best of cases but in the majority of cases the vaccines lessened the harm and greatly reduced the risk of death from Covid. The same can be said of all vaccines. It's incorrect to assume vaccines are going to completely prevent infection.
These assholes wouldn't know their ass from an ass in the ground, arguing with them is fruitless.
 
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I don't know many cases where people said that you couldn't get the virus after being vaccinated and even the studies showed that it only lowered in the best of cases but in the majority of cases the vaccines lessened the harm and greatly reduced the risk of death from Covid. The same can be said of all vaccines. It's incorrect to assume vaccines are going to completely prevent infection. If the general population believed it would completely prevent getting sick, then sadly they were either misinformed or completely ignorant as to how vaccines actually work.

thats really weird, because the most popular president ever, maddow, a left beacon, and god king fauci all said it, the video was scrubbed, of course, but i think i have it saved if i do ill reupload it somewhere so you can see it.
 
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