Hardware BEST AGP GFX CARD? UNDER $200? AUS

[Originality]

They're exactly the same except one has a USB 3 controller thrown in.

 

[Halo-101]

--Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit,
--Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB2.0 HD Audio mATX / --Gigabyte GA-H61M-USB3-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB3.0 Audio mATX
--Intel Core i5 2400 Processor LGA1155 3.1GHz CPU
--Corsair 2G 1333MHz DDR3 VS2GB1333D3 X2
-- CoolerMaster 700W Extreme Plus

This Good Budget $600 Machine and will play all my games i would lyk 2 play also including Fable 3 ,Batman,COD Black Ops.etc ?

 

[Originality]

For those, any CPU would be fine, and a mid ranged graphics card like the GTX 460 would handle it easily. Just make sure your case has half decent cooling (minimum one intake fan and two exhaust fans) or the graphics card will overheat the rest of the system.

 

[PettingZoo]

--Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit,
--Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB2.0 HD Audio mATX / --Gigabyte GA-H61M-USB3-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB3.0 Audio mATX
--Intel Core i5 2400 Processor LGA1155 3.1GHz CPU
--Corsair 2G 1333MHz DDR3 VS2GB1333D3 X2
-- CoolerMaster 700W Extreme Plus

This Good Budget $600 Machine and will play all my games i would lyk 2 play also including Fable 3 ,Batman,COD Black Ops.etc ?

If you want, you could save some money by dropping down to a 650W PSU which will still give you ample leeway in power.
After that just get yourself a decently sized case with proper ventilation (CM 690 II, Lian Li k60), you should be all set (assuming you're retaining your optical drive and HDD.

 

[DSGamer64]

Not sure why anyone would want to even waste their money on such an out dated computer in this day in age. Sure, if the parts cost like 5 dollars each maybe but with the prices of old tech staying relatively high while modern day tech is pretty cheap, you are best off with a new system. The best value builds in my opinion are AMD/ATI based rigs. Go for a Phenom II X4 Black Edition processor, 700 watt PSU, 4GB of DDR3 1600Mhz, new hard drive, ATI HD5770 or 6000 series equivalent if can spare the cash and essentially you have a reasonably priced gaming rig. Gigabyte boards are great, wouldn't waste my cash on Sandy Bridge seeing as how AMD is set to release Bulldozer and Bobcat processors in a few weeks which will be the direct competitors to the i7 line. And knowing AMD, they will either under cut or equal Intel in terms of performance this time around.

 

[Halo-101]

So i3 instead of i5 would be enough? and a 650W PSU? as changes to my above system?

 

[Halo-101]

Intel Core i3 2120 3.30Ghz 3MB Cache LGA1155 CPU
Intel Core i3 560 Processor LGA1156 3.33GHz 4MB Cache CPU
Intel Core i5 2400 Processor LGA1155 3.1GHz CPU

What CPU Above is recommended for the system of:
--Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit,
--Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB2.0 HD Audio mATX
--Corsair 2G 1333MHz DDR3 VS2GB1333D3 X2
-- CoolerMaster 650W Extreme Plus

 

[Originality]

The CPU really isn't as important as they make it sound. Core i3 is dual core, core i5 is quad core. You only need a dual core for modern tasks, but a quad core helps with multitasking and any multithreaded tasks (like rendering). Typically you get one in scale with your budget allowances. For low budget systems, get an Athlon or Phenom II. For moderate budget systems, get a sandy bridge CPU. For high end systems, get a core i7-2600K (which only costs around $80 more than a core i5-2500K).

So the only reason to pick less than the core i5-2400 is if you're trying to save money for other parts. Btw, your system doesn't actually need more than around 550W, but you can never have "too much" when it comes to power, since it's best for a PSU to never have to go near 100% load.

 

[DSGamer64]

So i3 instead of i5 would be enough? and a 650W PSU? as changes to my above system?

Might as well get the i5 quad core and future proof yourself as much as possible. 650 watts should be more then sufficient, though I think it depends on what kind of graphics card you choose. AMD/ATI cards are of lower power consumption so realistically you can save some money and do fine with a 500 watt power supply. I'd go for an AMD Radeon HD6850 graphics card as that will more then suffice for gaming.

 

[Halo-101]

Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit
Intel Core i5 650 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU

Is There A Modbo Available That is between 0-$140 And Can Support The Above Features Plus A 700W PSU That my father has purcahsed for my bday,Also Modbo Must Take PCI,DDR3,SATA2,Possibly IDE?,Or A IDE -> Sata Converter,And Also Was Wondering if a PCIE2.0 Card will work in a PCIE Slot?...Thanks Everyone you have been a big help and the following last question should make me all set

Astone AW-N290 802.11 b/g/n Wireless USB Dongle
ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card
^^^^
Which WLAN Device Would Be Better Also?

also thanks heaps everyone i appreciate all your help dearly

 

[Halo-101]

or if not findable can anybody recommend this modbo with my intel i5 not sure if certain model i5 would work and my GFX Card?

MSI H55M-E21 HDMI PCIE
Internet Price: $85.00

Spoiler

• Superb Stability: Military Class Components
• Support Intel Core i3/i5/i7 processors
• IGP Supports DirectX 10, Shader Model 4.0 and OpenGL 2

CPU (Max Support) i3/i5/i7
AM3 CPU Ready N/A
FSB / Hyper Transport Bus 6.4GT/s
Chipset Intel® H55
DDR2 Memory N/A
DDR3 Memory DDR3 1066/1333/1600* (OC)
Memory Channel Dual
DIMM Slots 2
Max Memory (GB) 8
PCI-Ex16 1
PCI-E Gen Gen2 (1x16)
PCI-Ex4 N/A
PCI-Ex1 2
PCI 1
IDE N/A
SATAIII N/A
SATAII 6
RAID N/A
LAN 10/100*1
TPM 1
USB 3.0 ports (Rear) N/A
USB 2.0 ports (Rear) 4
Audio ports (Rear) 3
Serial ports (Rear) N/A
Parallel ports (Rear) N/A
1394 ports (Rear) N/A
eSATA N/A
Display Port N/A
VGA 1
HDMI 1
DVI 1
VGA Max Share Memory (MB) 512
DirectX DX10
Form Factor M-ATX
DrMOS N/A
APS Y
Sideport Memory N/A
SLI N/A
3-way SLI N/A
Hybrid SLI N/A
CrossFire N/A
Hybrid CrossFire N/A
D-LED2 N/A
Green Power Genie N/A

And What Does IGP Mean?

GFX Card:
"Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit"

But Which i5 Should I get and dont forget im on a budget and want whats just right and would fit this modbo,work with my gfx card,not lag in games,play my new games.

Intel Core i5 2500 Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
$208.00

Intel Core i5 2400 Processor LGA1155 3.1GHz CPU
Internet Price: $195.00

Intel Core i5 2300 Processor LGA1155 2.8GHz CPU
Internet Price: $179.00

Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
Internet Price: $219.00

Intel Core i5 650 Processor LGA1156 3.2GHz 4MB Cache CPU
Internet Price: $229.00

Intel Core i5 760 Processor LGA1156 2.80GHz 8MB Cache CPU
Internet Price: $209.00


Thanks All!

 

[Miss Panda]

Integrated Graphics Processor

 

[marcus134]

the gigabyte board you listed earlier is a 1155 board while the msi is a 1156 board, you cannot fit a 1155 cpu with a 1156 mobo and vice-versa.

core i5 6xx are mlarkdale and fit 1156 mobo. Dual core
core i5 7xx are lynnfield and fit 1156 mobo. quad core
core i5 2x000 are sandy bridge (second generation, newer) and fit 1155 mobo. quad core

But Which i5 Should I get and dont forget im on a budget
the cheapest i5 will be enough, the extra money will give you like 5-7% increase max
just don't forget to match your cpu and mobo socket

Considering that the cheapest cpu available is the core i5 2300, you should go with it.
a good second choice would be to go with a core i5 650 since most game don't take advantage of quad core ( and not even of dual core for some). It will give you more raw power in single threaded and dual threaded program. (2.8 vs 3.2 ghz)
(they have a 5$ difference on newegg)

if you're looking to keep the cost as low as possible i would also recommend you the HD 6850 over the gtx 460
as DSGamer64 pointed out, it consume less power and performance is almost the same, but also it dissipate less heat while gaming.
the fact that it dissipate less heat is probably important in this case since budget case tend to lack airflow which is needed to keep the component cool.

QUOTEAnd What Does IGP Mean?

IGP means Integrated Graphics Processor
it means the the board has integrated graphic card, but it's unable to do any kind of serious gaming.

 

[Halo-101]

Intel Core i5 2500 Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
SATA2,DDR3 (ABLE TO TAKE 2 STICKS OF 2GB 1333MHZ) RAM,PCIE2.0 Or Modbo Capable Of GTX 460,PCI,Possible IDE.

Could Anybody Locate Me A Modbo Capable Of The Above For Under $140 Please And Thank You

As i have decided that ill stick with the GTX 460 As My Father and Various People Have Despised ATI For a reason idk but to stay on the safe side ill stay with Nvidia..
Also I have chosen The i5 2500 2.3GHz,LGA1155.CPU

Very Very Appreciated thnx

And if A Modbo had Pixel Shader 4.0 And DirectX10 IGP Wouldnt it play games aswell as some GFX Cards Available..Eg.Portal 2,Brink,Black Ops.Etc?

 

[Originality]

Sandy bridge motherboards will NOT come with an IGP, they will instead use the graphics core integrated into the Sandy Bridge CPU (Intel GMA HD 2000). To use the Intel graphics, you either need a H67 motherboard (which cannot over clock), or a Z68 motherboard which can make use of both the Intel GMA HD 2000 AND the primary graphics card (GTX 460 in your case). EDIT: Seems a H61 motherboard can use the integrated graphics too. P67 is the only chipset that doesn't use the integrated graphics.

How well a IGP plays games largely depends on it's ability to output models and textures. The Intel GMA HD 3000 is currently the best IGP, which is able to play modern games at playable frame rates. Either way, dedicated graphics cards are much better at gaming and you're getting one, so there's no point talking about IGPs.

I'll have a look for a cheap motherboard for you after I get breakfast. I won't find you the best motherboard for $140 AUD because I think you should do your own homework rather than expect people to do it for you.

As for WiFi... The power provided through a PCI card is much more stable than USB, however it is much easier to position a USB card to get the most reception. So long as your house doesn't have too much interference and the radio channels are relatively clean and you're not too far away from the WiFi access point, then it won't matter which you use. The worse the conditions, the more varied the performance between PCI and USB WiFi devices get. In other words, more info plox.

 

[Halo-101]

Ok Thanks Very Much Originality

 

[Halo-101]

Does A PCIE2.0 GFX Card Work in A PCI Slot?..i guess not but just wondering thanks

And Does A PCI Card Work In A PCIE Slot?

 

[Halo-101]

Gigabyte GTX 460 SE PCI-E 2.0 1GB DDR5 256-bit
$178.00

Corsair 2G 1333MHz DDR3 VS2GB1333D3 X2
$48

Intel Core i5 2500 Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
$208.00

CoolerMaster NV-692A-KWN2 CM 690 II Advanced NVIDIA edition
$120.00

ASUS PCI-G31 54Mbps Windows 7 Ready WLAN PCI Card
Internet Price: $19.00

Sharkoon FireGlider 3600DPI Gaming Laser Mouse
Internet Price: $35.00

I Was Looking At The Following Modbos For My System Now As The Final Decision:
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Asus P8H61-M-LE V3 Socket1155 H61 2x DDR3 SATA3 USB2.0 GLAN uATX
Internet Price: $79.00

AsRock H61M/U3S3 H61 2x DDR3 1333 1x PCI-E2.0 x16 2x PCI SATAIII GLAN USB3.0 HDMI DVI D-Sub mATX
Internet Price: $89.00
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They Both Seem Good Which One Should I Get? And i Would like to choose out of these as they fit my Specs...Thnx

 

[Originality]

FYI, it's against the rules to double post. Just edit your last post if you need to add extra information.

A PCI-E 2.0 card can work in a PCI-E 1.0 slot, it will just be slowed down by the reduced bandwidth. AFAIK, all motherboards since LGA 775 came out (Core 2 series) all have PCI-E 2.0 slots. You don't have to worry about this.

PCI cards cannot physically fit in a PCI-E slot, so they are incompatible. Typically motherboards will only have one or two PCI-E x16 slots, one or two PCI-E x1 slot, and around 2-4 PCI slots. Less depending on the size of the motherboard (e.g. M-ITX, ITX, M-ATX, ATX, E-ATX).

For the motherboard... my limited selection of Australian sites aren't working for me, so I just used the top one from google. This motherboard is the cheapest on the site at $64. It uses a H61 chipset which I didn't know existed but, according to Wiki, actually does. Either way, there are many more motherboards on that site that can be considered. This motherboard is the cheapest with H67 (which'll have SATA 6Gbs instead of just 3Gbs), at $94. P67 is $138 and up for some reason, and Z68 is $177 and up. I've no idea how these prices stack to other Australian sites (considering that electronics in Australia are overpriced anyway) but at least it's been "located" for you.

EDIT: Since you posted (again) before I could... the ASUS motherboard you picked has a GPU overclocking function and a surge protection feature, and the AsRock motherboard you picked overcame the lack of USB3/SATA3 in the H61 chipset design by adding their own. Basically the AsRock motherboard has more features, but costs more. On the other hand, the ASUS motherboard has better software support (e.g. AI Suite II). My opinion is that they both suck since they're designed for energy saving environments and not for gaming, but you can't get a high quality motherboard on a low budget.

 

[Halo-101]

OK Now Deciding On Modbo For A Last Decision To My PC

Should I Go With:

Gigabyte GA-H61M-USB3-B3 H61 L1155 2x DDR3 SATA2 USB3.0 Audio mATX
Which Has The Same Features As The following Description But With USB3

Intel H61 Chipset
Socket 1155
2x DDR3
SATA2
USB2.0
HD Audio,mATX
Intel® H61 Express Chipset
2 x DDR3 1333/1066/800 MHz Max 16GB
1 x D-Sub port
1 x DVI-D port
High Definition Audio
4 x SATA 3Gb/s
10 USB 2.0/1.1 ports1 x PCI Express x16 slot
3 x PCI Express x1 slots
mATX

AsRock H61M/U3S3 H61 2x DDR3 1333 1x PCI-E2.0 x16 2x PCI SATAIII GLAN USB3.0 HDMI DVI D-Sub mATX

Asus P8H61-M-LE V3 Socket1155 H61 2x DDR3 SATA3 USB2.0 GLAN uATX

This Is Defonatly The Last Question I Am To Ask in This Thread...Thanks for your patience everyone Appreciate It