10 year old killed his mom because she didn't buy a VR set

[mrdude]

Size doesn't matter when nuclear bombs and guns exist

That's why Americans should never give up their guns, especially when they even the score for when a criminal is trying to break into your house or rape your wife. So now you are basically agreeing that guns are good. Well done, there's many that agree with you.

 

[LainaGabranth]

why break it up?

Because it's all virtue signalling with nothing to actually say. Disciplining the child in this case legitimately would not have cured the mental illness that allowed him to morally justify to himself shooting his own mother over a VR headset.

 

[SA1Y4N]

he could have mental health issues tbh

 

[SG854]

That's why Americans should never give up their guns, especially when they even the score for when a criminal is trying to break into your house or rape your wife. So now you are basically agreeing that guns are good. Well done, there's many that agree with you.

Was I ever against guns though? I have a few guns myself after someone broke into my home.

But beating the kid is not the answer. It's antiquated.

 

[mrdude]

But beating the kid is not the answer. It's antiquated.

Giving someone a beating and a cuff around the ear are different things, The mother probably never disciplined the kid and now she's dead (with an extra hole in her face) and the kids future now looks bleak.

 

[lolcatzuru]

Because it's all virtue signalling with nothing to actually say. Disciplining the child in this case legitimately would not have cured the mental illness that allowed him to morally justify to himself shooting his own mother over a VR headset.

whats wrong with the virtue it signals? certainly there are far less valuable virtues that not only are horribly flawed but those who choose not to signal them are treated as poorly as this child.

 

[LainaGabranth]

whats wrong with the virtue it signals? certainly there are far less valuable virtues that not only are horribly flawed but those who choose not to signal them are treated as poorly as this child.

Because jerking off your irrelevant moral values that you only pretend to hold for status is embarrassing.

 

[Asia81]

Only in Ohio

 

[lolcatzuru]

Because jerking off your irrelevant moral values that you only pretend to hold for status is embarrassing.

have you submitted this to websters yet? i have a feeling they might put this down for " Irony"

 

[mrdude]

Was I ever against guns though? I have a few guns myself after someone broke into my home.

But beating the kid is not the answer. It's antiquated.

You have a gun because you know that by inflicting violence or using the threat of shooting someone will most likely be a deterrent, therefore you are basically admitting whether you want to admit it or not that violence or the threat of violence works as a deterrent to bad behavior. Arguing otherwise is just arguing for the sake of it.

 

[SonowRaevius]

Mental Illness is a hell of a thing even in younger people, and while it is good that it is becoming less taboo in the world to discuss and find solutions to it or at least prevent from causing issues, in some places it is just as taboo as it was nearly a century ago.

Physical punishment also wouldn't have helped with this and might have, in fact, exacerbated the issue. Even studies have shown that corporal punishment overall leads to worse outcomes worldwide.

Though I would say the worst and possibly most hilarious thing in this thread so far is the people going on about how it is good for the government agencies in Saudi Arabia and other countries to brutalize their citizens over petty theft and other minor crimes, but then turn around and say "we need guns to protect ourselves from our government".

 

[Xzi]

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" is some out of touch, long outdated boomer shit. Kid clearly has some serious mental health issues, and beating him likely would've only got the same result sooner. Would be nice if this country actually started taking access to mental healthcare seriously instead of just using it as an excuse for why we can't have common sense gun control.

 

[RAHelllord]

You have a gun because you know that by inflicting violence or using the threat of shooting someone will most likely be a deterrent, therefore you are basically admitting whether you want to admit it or not that violence or the threat of violence works as a deterrent to bad behavior. Arguing otherwise is just arguing for the sake of it.

You're right there definitely is no difference between self defense and owning tools to facilitate that, and beating your own child because you're too inept to raise them properly otherwise.

 

[SG854]

You have a gun because you know that by inflicting violence or using the threat of shooting someone will most likely be a deterrent, therefore you are basically admitting whether you want to admit it or not that violence or the threat of violence works as a deterrent to bad behavior. Arguing otherwise is just arguing for the sake of it.

Most robbers don't know I have a gun so there is 0 deterence.

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Giving someone a beating and a cuff around the ear are different things, The mother probably never disciplined the kid and now she's dead (with an extra hole in her face) and the kids future now looks bleak.

No normal kid will shoot their mom after not being disciplined over a vr headset. This isn't a lack of discipline this is something else.

 

[mrdude]

No normal kid will shoot their mom after not being disciplined over a vr headset. This isn't a lack of discipline this is something else.

That's speculation on your part, the kid was likely never disciplined hence thinking that he would get his way by killing his mum. Hopefully he will now spend the rest of his days in jail or a mental institution as he is clearly not right in the head to be socialising with normal law abiding people. Maybe if his mum had disiplined him properly from a youger age he would have learned the difference between what is right and what is wrong - because if he didn't know, he wasn't taught. If he did know he was just an evil little shit, if he had mental problems - he should have been in a mental institution.

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Mental Illness is a hell of a thing even in younger people, and while it is good that it is becoming less taboo in the world to discuss and find solutions to it or at least prevent from causing issues, in some places it is just as taboo as it was nearly a century ago.

Physical punishment also wouldn't have helped with this and might have, in fact, exacerbated the issue. Even studies have shown that corporal punishment overall leads to worse outcomes worldwide.

Though I would say the worst and possibly most hilarious thing in this thread so far is the people going on about how it is good for the government agencies in Saudi Arabia and other countries to brutalize their citizens over petty theft and other minor crimes, but then turn around and say "we need guns to protect ourselves from our government".

People have been using physical punshment since time began, and it's worked fine up until now so your logic is flawed.

In USA nearly every state can use it if they want as it's legal in private schools, and some states are re-intoducing physical punishments, because they know it works:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/25/missouri-school-district-reinstates-spanking

People are always looking for excuses, and blaming bad behavior on mental illness is just another excuse for an adult to use because they were too lazy to teach the kid the differences between right and wrong - children will always push boundaries to see what they can get away with, if they don't learn there are consequences to actions you end up with out of control youngsters turning into out of control adults, which is neither good for them or anyone else. That's why USA is in the state it is now and why you have so much crime and murders.

 

[MikaDubbz]

All for a novelty that sure is fun in short bursts, but is not going to replace traditional gaming, not anytime soon anyway. Reads just as ridiculous if he had killed her for candy, or that one guy that actually killed his family so that he could throw a party.

 

[smf]

In Saudi Arabia, you can get your hand cut off for stealing, crime is dealt with harshly and there's relatively low crime in that country - especially for things like adultery which isn't considered a crime in the west. So it seems to me that if you deal harshly with criminals there's quite a detterant.

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People have been using physical punshment since time began, and it's worked fine up until now so your logic is flawed.

What do you mean by "worked"?

 

[Jamesgetit]

Only in ohio

 

[CraddaPoosta]

Uncle Poosta's Fun Time Discipline Camp of Smiles is still on the table, folks.

Just throwing that out there.

#helpmehelpyou

 

[Benja81]

The poor kid (and poor mom RIP) has a mental disorder and I would imagine that even if the penalty for murder was being fired into the sun with a cannon, being chopped into 1,000 pieces, or being a resident of tent city in the desert would not have made a difference. Its the same reason normal minded people wouldn't shoot their mom even though the penalty is NOT one of those things. Do not get it twisted folks: yes we need tough laws to discourage the masses, but its not gonna stop crazy.