Man Arrested for Selling Hacked Consoles

Seliph · Apr 18, 2017

Red9419 said:
That's called a service. It's like saying why not fix your car yourself for free instead of paying someone who can do it for you.

Yeah, I get it. It's more so for me that the developers of these hacks specifically say that they don't want people making money off of their free hacks so the guy selling the consoles with free hacks is then also making money off of those free hacks by selling these hacked consoles to lazy people.

Saiyan Lusitano · Apr 18, 2017

What he was doing was illegal so no one can really say the police is in the wrong in this case. If he only sold the 3DS and then "gifted" the flashcarts after then it might have been different.

guisadop · Apr 18, 2017

I'm sure Spanish people are glad this heinous criminal was arrested. I don't know how Spaniards would be able to walk safely on the streets with this man at large.

RustInPeace · Apr 18, 2017

Reminding me that I need that Orange and Black design, how come that's Europe exclusive? I love my Lime Green N3DSXL, that Orange and Black just complements it so well.

Saiyan Lusitano · Apr 18, 2017

guisadop said:
I'm sure Spanish people are glad this heinous criminal was arrested. I don't know how Spaniards would be able to walk safely on the streets with this man at large.

BREAKING NEWS: Man selling 3DS with flashcarts! Don't go near him or he'll try to sell you one!

MadMageKefka · Apr 18, 2017

I would like to remind people in this thread that the person caught was selling PIRACY, not just a hacked console. The systems he sold had pirated games on it and so did the flashcarts. A lot of people here seem to be talking like all he did was mod the console then sell it. He was asking for trouble.....

DeslotlCL · Apr 18, 2017

MadMageKefka said:
I would like to remind people in this thread that the person caught was selling PIRACY, not just a hacked console. The systems he sold had pirated games on it and so did the flashcarts. A lot of people here seem to be talking like all he did was mod the console then sell it. He was asking for trouble.....

I just hope the nsa doesnt catch us since we encourage piracy so hard over here and almost every user is a dirty pirate.

Mr.Faq2015 · Apr 18, 2017

Well, that's 1 down. Who knows how many to go...

Gotta be prepared for the men in black/blue anyway

Taleweaver · Apr 18, 2017

EvilMakiPR said:
The National Police of Spain has arrested a man for selling hacked consoles since 2014. The man was also selling Flashcarts. The agents found that the man had made more than 220 shipments of orders arranged and closed through a known mobile phone application and that would have already obtained profits of more than 54,000 euros although these games would have reached in the market an estimated value of more than a Million.

Those first two numbers don't seem to add up. With 220 shipments, he'd have to have an average profit of 254 euro's per transaction (meaning: without the cost of the actual console/flashcart itself). That seems pretty unlikely, especially since flashcarts by itself would drag the average down. In other words: that "more than 220 shipments" is probably more near double or even three times the amount of shipments. Unless of course there are some very clueless customers in the world.

Most-Wanted · Apr 18, 2017

I just want that IPS n3dsxl on the right there.. I wonder if the police auction will be online

FAST6191 · Apr 18, 2017

As others have said

Just hacked consoles, now that would be a new development or at least a very interesting one.

With copied games, another day at the office. Still report it but the usual play from police/Nintendo/general media is to talk up the hacked devices and downplay the games, at least until they get to court where the hacked stuff is ignored entirely (or maybe used as an aggravating condition) and the copied games are what they care about.

Seliph said:
Yeah, I get it. It's more so for me that the developers of these hacks specifically say that they don't want people making money off of their free hacks so the guy selling the consoles with free hacks is then also making money off of those free hacks by selling these hacked consoles to lazy people.

Can still be considered the selling of a service though. You assign no value to the hacks themselves, merely any expertise in installing them and assume your own risk in doing so.

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EvilMakiPR said:
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The National Police of Spain has arrested a man for selling hacked consoles since 2014. The man was also selling Flashcarts. The agents found that the man had made more than 220 shipments of orders arranged and closed through a known mobile phone application and that would have already obtained profits of more than 54,000 euros although these games would have reached in the market an estimated value of more than a Million.

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Police's Twitter Account

should have sold the consoles with a9lh and freeshop with no illegal roms, then say if someone wanna download he should do it himself. this way wouldnt have been arrested... its all legal

Robert McCoy · Apr 18, 2017

I'm Pretty sure I can sell a 3ds console with a9lh on it. but. no cia's , games, or any roms on them and not get in trouble. It's only if you're selling it with illegally not owned content/games that's illegal.

sarkwalvein · Apr 18, 2017

Seliph said:
Selling consoles is fine, selling consoles that are hacked to people who don't know how to hack isn't. It's exploiting their inability to look up a basic hacking tutorial and making money off of that.
The hacks are supposed to be free but someone is making money off of other people's hard work.

How?
Selling a tomato is exploiting the inability of someone to look up for a basic farming tutorial?
Tomatoes are free to farm! Being able to plant and farm your tomatoes is a right for every citizen!

PS: Work that you don't want to do yourself and prefer to pay another to do it for you is still work, I don't get your logic, by it every product or service somebody sells is a rip-off as someone could do it oneself after learning, that makes no sense! the idea is that you don't want to use your time on that!

Deboog · Apr 18, 2017

Sometimes people try to sell homebrew "services" on GBAtemp. I don't see why people can't get it in their head that selling copyrighted data is wrong.
Sharing it is morally grey at best, but how do you justify making money off of somebody else's work?

Originality · Apr 18, 2017

Selling hacked consoles is difficult to pin down the offence, but selling pirated games is a quantifiable offence and very easy to stack up the charges. Say he put 100 games on each flashcart, and each game averages RRP at €40, that's a €4000 offence straight away. Add to that a fine for each individual offence (read, each infringing game on that flashcart) and the amount can scale into five or six figures depending on the ruling. Multiply that for the number of flashcarts......

Yeah, selling piracy is a bad idea. And they come down especially hard on the providers (like this guy) to make an example of them and scare ordinary users away, even though European law technically enables police to charge anybody who happens to have a hacked console or flashcart when caught (the law is there, but is never really enforced).

RemixDeluxe · Apr 18, 2017

Deboog said:
Sometimes people try to sell homebrew "services" on GBAtemp. I don't see why people can't get it in their head that selling copyrighted data is wrong.
Sharing it is morally grey at best, but how do you justify making money off of somebody else's work?

Selling the service of homebrew installation or selling modded consoles is different from selling roms. Please understand the difference.

sarkwalvein · Apr 18, 2017

I find it kind of weird how a "serious" entity like the National Police Force tweets a message full of emojis more appropriate of a teenager.
PS: Also the message says "Game Over!!! #GameOver. Next match is to be played behind the bars... "

s157 · Apr 18, 2017

I wonder if the spanish police are playing multi-player mario kart on those 3ds'. Also I want that black and orange 3ds.

Deboog · Apr 18, 2017

RemixDeluxe said:
Selling the service of homebrew installation or selling modded consoles is different from selling roms. Please understand the difference.

What I'm talking about is people trying to sell a console loaded with roms for a much higher price than they should expect if the console was clean.

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