Gaming Switch is great and all but..

Xzi · Mar 25, 2017

Gadd said:
Being easier to control is not the arbiter of what is succesful in a home console. The colecovision had a better control scheme than the atari 2600, it did NOT sell more you special ed scholar. The proof that multiple displays is faster and more efficient is the fact the military uses them, in billion dollar machines, under life or death combat. THAT is the proof you fucking retard, not the fact some console sold more than another. Game consoles sell based on novel features such as graphics power, portability, controls, advertising/marketing, but more than anything games. Sega Master System was far better than the NES hardware wise, controller was about identical, but the NES had better games and marketing. If they release more and better games for switch it will sell more than the wii u, if they don't it will meet the same fate.

This is a gaming thread on a gaming forum on a gaming website. Wii U is a gaming console. Your argument that two screens make it a better gaming console because military vehicles use more than one display for an entirely different purpose is moronic.

Hell, if you wanted to play video games inside a tank or military jet, chances are you'd use just one screen.

Saiyan Lusitano · Mar 25, 2017

Gadd said:
The proof that multiple displays is faster and more efficient is the fact the military uses them, in billion dollar machines, under life or death combat.

Did you just compare a video game system to military?

Gadd said:
THAT is the proof you fucking retard,

Calm down.

comput3rus3r · Mar 25, 2017

orcid said:
For me the Wii U would have been worse with this gimmick. I love the Wii U, but I hate the secound screen. I used the Wii U Pro Controller whenever possible and didnt li when games forced me to use the gamepad. One reasonn the Wii U was no huge succes is that I am not the only one who thaught that this secound screen doesn't improve games. Yu like the secound screen and other people,too, but acceptt hat tis feature turned out to be no huge succes and doesn't improve game for many people

unlike you i really enjoyed playing on the wiiu pad it added another layer of immersion for many games. even my 4 yeard old daughter prefers to play on the wiiu pad over the pro controller and she's tiny.

Gadd · Mar 25, 2017

No it's a great argument, because they also use those displays during military games and computer simulations. And don't try to change what I said...I didn't say it makes it a BETTER gaming console than others based on one control feature, I said it can make the UI more efficient. The xbone and ps4 are ranked higher than the wii u by most, but it's not because people are in an uproar about the gamepad. It's generally about games and graphics/cpu power in that argument. Especially with a myriad of games and controllers on the wii u that don't have a second screen, that makes most arguments whining about he wii u gamepad invalid because it was nearly always optional. The switch in portable configuration is of the general form factor of a wii u gamepad, so if you hated the feel of that controller then you're never gonna wanna play portable on your switch (which is the switch's entire claim to fame). You idiots don't think these things through, do you? lol

Xzi · Mar 25, 2017

Gadd said:
The switch in portable configuration is of the general form factor of a wii u gamepad, so if you hated the feel of that controller then you're never gonna wanna play portable on your switch (which is the switch's entire claim to fame).

If you're being extremely generous with the term "general," then maybe. Switch is like 1/4th the thickness of the Wii U gamepad, and it's smaller in length and width. It's overall closer to the dimensions of 3DS XL.

Gadd · Mar 25, 2017

Xzi said:
If you're being extremely generous with the term "general," then maybe. Switch is like 1/4th the thickness of the Wii U gamepad, and it's smaller in length and width. It's overall closer to the dimensions of 3DS XL.

wrong again, the switch is wider, vertical height appears close, and it weighs more!

comput3rus3r · Mar 25, 2017

Gadd said:
wrong again, the switch is wider, vertical height appears close, and it weighs more!

I so wish they would have made the switch 2 units.
maybe they'll get it right with the switch 2.

Xzi · Mar 25, 2017

Gadd said:
wrong again, the switch is wider, vertical height appears close, and it weighs more!

Okay, so just less thick then. Either way, my problem was never with the Wii U gamepad's size, only the fact that it includes an unnecessary second screen. If the gamepad was the entire console, things would be different. Switch is the console that Wii U should've been.

comput3rus3r · Mar 25, 2017

Switch could've been the console that Wii U should've been.

fixxed

Gadd · Mar 25, 2017

I'll be buying a switch just as soon as there's a must have beyond BOTW. I'm glad the sales are fantastic, and I've enjoyed nintendo games more than the competition ever since the gamecube (probably bc I have a pc for more hardware demanding games). Glad they did away with the gloss finish on the switch.

Anyway sorry I blew my top, I have to say it is 100 percent because I was doing horse racing in BOTW and my horse kept refusing to jump the gate or ran into the gate pole when I was clearly aiming within the two uprights. I had to take a break I got so pissed

Xzi · Mar 25, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
Xzi said:

Switch could've been the console that Wii U should've been.

Click to expand...

fixxed

No, you broke it. I meant what I said. Wii U sold like shit, and Nintendo isn't about to take shit sales as a sign that they were doing things right. Nor should they.

What people like about Nintendo is innovation, and Switch is still innovative, just in a way that's more appealing to a wider audience.

orcid · Mar 25, 2017

The big difference to the military is that many people like to relax during gaming. Maybe Zelda could be more efficient with the possibility to change the weapons and looking at the map without pausing the game but the also the game would be more stressful. I am glad that Zelda is a little more lay back than other games. Of course this is not everybody's play style.

ov3rkill · Mar 25, 2017

Okay. I've read contrasting opinions in this thread. I agree that the Wii U was far superior in terms of features. It has a camera, microphone, and dual screen. I don't know how the mic and camera worked since I haven't used them in the games I played, but I think the dual screen is the innovation here. It's the home console version of a DS/3DS. Heck, it can even play DS games. Then again, it wasn't powerful enough compared to the competing consoles. Switch, on the other hand, is powerful but lacks features. It's a downgrade from a Wii U console features. I just hope the Switch will be welcome by more developers so it can populate more games on the system.

I totally agree about BOTW devs compromising between the Switch and Wii U to have the same features so as not to make the other one inferior or superior. Plus, I think they're really pushing it to make people buy the Switch version. BOTW blows most games out of the water. It's really a good launch title. Imagine releasing it on the Switch only, people would be forced to buy the console just to play the game. That, or play it on Cemu. haha. I'm still glad they released it on the Wii U. Kudos to them. One last bang for the Wii U. I'd say it went out guns blazing.

Saiyan Lusitano · Mar 25, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
unlike you i really enjoyed playing on the wiiu pad it added another layer of immersion for many games. even my 4 yeard old daughter prefers to play on the wiiu pad over the pro controller and she's tiny.

Good for you. You don't speak for the majority of gamers who obviously didn't like the whole second-screen gimmicky system.

Gadd said:
No it's a great argument,

Not really, no.

Gadd said:
because they also use those displays during military games and computer simulations. And don't try to change what I said...I didn't say it makes it a BETTER gaming console than others based on one control feature, I said it can make the UI more efficient. The xbone and ps4 are ranked higher than the wii u by most, but it's not because people are in an uproar about the gamepad. It's generally about games and graphics/cpu power in that argument. Especially with a myriad of games and controllers on the wii u that don't have a second screen, that makes most arguments whining about he wii u gamepad invalid because it was nearly always optional. The switch in portable configuration is of the general form factor of a wii u gamepad, so if you hated the feel of that controller then you're never gonna wanna play portable on your switch (which is the switch's entire claim to fame).

Just be glad Nintendo actually released Zelda:BotW on the WiiU instead of cancelling it, which they did for Super Paper Mario on GameCube and made it a Wii-exclusive.

Gadd said:
You idiots don't think these things through, do you? lol

Being childish and immature again with the name-calling.

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Captain_N said:
good. there should be no item list. there is no strategy when other players can see what you have. Seeing others items needs to go.

Crazy talk. Mario Kart games have had list items before so getting rid of it is a bad call.

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owek1 said:
2 screens works for some games.. Wind Waker is designed that way but if BOTW were to have 2 screens it will get old too fast and you up getting annoyed by looking at a second screen every few strikes and your weapons breaks. It will mean there won't be a mini pause and in an instant you have to keep on nodding just to check which weapon you have and select it.

There's a reason why a lot of games like this are popular on other consoles with no second screen. It lets you focus on the action. I'll have a sore neck if i have to keep on looking at a second screen since BOTW has a lot more action when it does. I think dual screens is perfect for 3DS games but BOTW is perfect for what it is. Plus the Switch will appear like a wiiU 2.0 if they kept the dual screen which i think Nintendo's been avoiding like the plague. But this is just my opinion. We all have different preferences in life.

Anyway, i'm enjoying the game a lot since launch day and i finally completed the Zora Armor after wandering around to other places.

Yep.

Benja81 · Mar 25, 2017

Even though the idea of a 2nd screen is nice. When I think about what I really used it for that was the most benefit, it was being able to play my game off the TV screen so I or someone else could watch TV at the same time. With the Switch I'll still be able to do that, and without a virtual tether to the console.

MontyQ · Mar 25, 2017

the wii u gamepad is like an ugly 90s toy it looks and feels cheap compared to the switch, so glad we dropped the second not needed screen.

Kioku · Mar 25, 2017

This thread and its people. I swear. The Wii U was abysmal in just about every aspect to the average gamer. The forced gamepad was clunky and awkward to hold for longer periods of time. The games were alright, at best. Mario Maker, Xenoblade, Bayonetta and more could have helped the WiiU reach a much better place, sales wise.. But they didn't. Why is this? Oh, right.. The hardware...

It being underpowered in comparison to the Xbox and Playstation is a Moot point. Look at the Wii compared to the 360 and PS3. Held its own rather well for having half the power. Now isn't that strange? A console with a limited control scheme, no HD and completely underpowered did well? Why is this? Hm.. Oh, the software.

Devs did not want to make software for a system that won't doing well. This is why a lot of 3rd party devs pulled away in the first year. The games drive the sales of the hardware. No matter how you look at it. On the other side, nobody wants to buy something that doesn't offer a convenience factor for them. Let alone the WOW factor. The second screen sucked in my honest opinion.. Having to look down, away from the main screen took away from the experience. UNLIKE THE DS where you looked down half an inch and still could see the action on the main screen.

I'm glad they went away from that. Making the tablet the system, and giving us so much more than the WiiU offered. It has potential. The WiiU was DOA, let's be honest.

Saiyan Lusitano · Mar 25, 2017

Memoir said:
Now isn't that strange?

No.

Nintendo banked hard on a trend they got ahold of and people bought Wiis just because they were the thing of the moment. Tons and tons were left in closets or left catching dust. It's why Nintendo thought they could do it again with the WiiU. It didn't work.

Deleted User · Mar 25, 2017

MontyQ said:
the wii u gamepad is like an ugly 90s toy it looks and feels cheap compared to the switch, so glad we dropped the second not needed screen.

What.
It's actually very useful and if you can't even hold gamepad for 50 minutes in your hand then there's something wrong with you i guess.
"Cheap compared to Switch"
>2012/2011 hardware compared to 2017 hardware
Man, you seriously know how to use arguments /s

Still, i like both consoles and i bet Switch isn't going to replace my Wii U anytime soon.

fluffykiwi · Mar 25, 2017

I also wish they had kept usage of the gamepad screen in the Wii U version. They state they already had the Wii U version using that control system, so I simply wish they had made it an option within the settings. If you like using the gamepad as a second screen then check an option within settings, if you didn't like that then use the Switch style controls.

Whether anyone likes it or not the second screen was a major feature of the Wii U and to deliberately remove the option to use its main feature, is letting down the people who actually bought the Wii U.

This isn't a major issue for me, but simply would have been nice as an option, and could have pleased everyone.

Gaming Switch is great and all but..

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