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You know you've struck gold when you start comparing the game to the worst instead of the best. Playing ZombiU is like being the third-best player on the losing team - nothing to boast about, but hey! There are some worse players, like the kid with chronic asthma! ;O;

I have played all the best titles on every system to date mate and not comparing at all. If people want to be salty about it then it's fine, I just think it's not as bad as many think and there are loads out there that agree, yet each to their own I guess.
 
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You know you've struck gold when you start comparing the game to the worst instead of the best. Playing ZombiU is like being the third-best player on the losing team - nothing to boast about, but hey! There are some worse players, like the kid with chronic asthma! ;O;
I think the point is that people who didn't enjoyed the game are bashing this game more than this games deserves since there are far worse games that deserve the hate more.
Nobody claims "they struck gold" most people who liked this game are aware that it is very very flawed.
 

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I think the point is that people who didn't enjoyed the game are bashing this game more than this games deserves since there are far worse games that deserve the hate more.
Nobody claims "they struck gold" most people who liked this game are aware that it is very very flawed.
A lot of them aren't. On HUKD almost every single one of them claims that this is one of the best games they ever played and what someone should play when they get a Wii U.

Terrible advice.
 

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I have played all the best titles on every system to date mate and not comparing at all. If people want to be salty about it then it's fine, I just think it's not as bad as many think and there are loads out there that agree, yet each to their own I guess.
It's not horrible, but it's not really good either. Saying that it's not bad because there are worse games is like saying that catching a nasty cold is fun because you could've gotten AIDS instead - not really a saving grace. It's not the worst game ever, but I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy it for more than a fiver because it's just not worth it and there are much better games out there to spend hard-earned cash on.
 

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With Xbox becoming PC-friendly the gamers will enjoy the best of both worlds but Forza, Halo and Gears might still be only on XO but who knows. Microsoft owns both platforms.

Microsoft only sees fees/royalties on PC if certain APIs and tools are used for development. They may be the dominate OS on PC but outside of DirectX, which devs have been leading failed attempts at rebelling against for decades now, Microsoft doesn't own much of anything on PC gaming. Which is PRECISELY why they went to consoles for control and better royalties. That said, unless the potential income from exclusive cross-platform games far outweighs perceived hardware sale losses, I don't see them bringing key Xbox exclusives to PC. Of course, in the past they did it terribly AND supported the online infrastructure terribly so of course when they tried in the past it didn't work so well, but who knows. Since Xbox One isn't comfortably in the lead I just can't see them caring about PC anymore than they have to with first party and second party titles.


On topic, I'm fairly forgiving on zombie survival games, just like the movies they're popcorn titles, so I may be interested in this on PC, but I somehow doubt Ubisoft won't screw it up big time with their terrible uPlay DRM...
 

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It's not horrible, but it's not really good either. Saying that it's not bad because there are worse games is like saying that catching a nasty cold is fun because you could've gotten AIDS instead - not really a saving grace. It's not the worst game ever
ZombiU is better than most Steam Early Access games but come on, this is comparing which game is slightly less shittier.

but I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy it for more than a fiver because it's just not worth it and there are much better games out there to spend hard-earned cash on.
Even for £5 it's still a bit too much. £1.50 is all right.
 
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A lot of them aren't. On HUKD almost every single one of them claims that this is one of the best games they ever played and what someone should play when they get a Wii U.

Terrible advice.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
I didn't like The Last of Us but everyone is saying GOTY.
 
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I didn't like The Last of Us but everyone is saying GOTY.
That is an awful example. The Last of Us is a genuinely good game. If it doesn't appeal to you, okay, but I think it's silly to compare it to an overwhelmingly average game like Zombi(U) for the sake of making your point.
 
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That is an awful example. The Last of Us is a genuinely good game. If it doesn't appeal to you, okay, but I think it's silly to compare it to an overwhelmingly average game like Zombi(U) for the sake of making your point.
I didn't say its bad, just said that i don't like it (I do have some issues with the game but the thread is not to talk about The Last of Us)
And people are defending ZombiU because everyone's giving a lot of negative flack that it didn't deserve, and people are still going about it.
If you didn't like it then cool, just stop bashing it like its the worst thing ever and stop being over critical to people who liked it and to the possible new players/buyers. Your opinion is your opinion, doesn't mean everyone else is gonna have the same opinion about the game. It may be bad, it may be good but why does itmatter? If people are having fun then that's all what matters. The game isn't for sure made for everyone.
 

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I didn't say its bad, just said that i don't like it (I do have some issues with the game but the thread is not to talk about The Last of Us)
And people are defending ZombiU because everyone's giving a lot of negative flack that it didn't deserve, and people are still going about it.
If you didn't like it then cool, just stop bashing it like its the worst thing ever and stop being over critical to people who liked it and to the possible new players/buyers. Your opinion is your opinion, doesn't mean everyone else is gonna have the same opinion about the game. It may be bad, it may be good but why does itmatter? If people are having fun then that's all what matters. The game isn't for sure made for everyone.
That's what people do not get though.
Criticizing negatively a game is not just opinions thrown at it. Some flawed things can also be facts and can be improved on and this is what @Foxi4 is pointing out,

If you have fun with a game, that's fine. However, that doesn't mean that a game is good, even though it is fun for some.
 

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That's what people do not get though.
Criticizing negatively a game is not just opinions thrown at it. Some flawed things can also be facts and can be improved on and this is what @Foxi4 is pointing out,

If you have fun with a game, that's fine. However, that doesn't mean that a game is good, even though it is fun for some.
He didn't say that much about it, if he feels so offended by someone saying that the was fine then he can write a review about it.
No one said that the game was the best game ever but just said that the game was fine, it has flaws but its not bad or horrible.
 
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I didn't say its bad, just said that i don't like it (I do have some issues with the game but the thread is not to talk about The Last of Us) And people are defending ZombiU because everyone's giving a lot of negative flack that it didn't deserve, and people are still going about it. If you didn't like it then cool, just stop bashing it like its the worst thing ever and stop being over critical to people who liked it and to the possible new players/buyers. Your opinion is your opinion, doesn't mean everyone else is gonna have the same opinion about the game. It may be bad, it may be good but why does itmatter? If people are having fun then that's all what matters. The game isn't for sure made for everyone.
Maybe people just expected more of Ubisoft? The game feels like it was made by a team of fresh graduates, it looks, feels and plays amateurish. When you see Ubisoft releasing Far Cry 4 in one hand and ZombiU in the other, you have to stop and wonder whether the game had any resources or talent allocated to it. Here's how I think it went down - a group of devs had an idea about Killer Freaks from Space, some big wig exec in Ubisoft said "nah, too risky, make it about zombies, people like zombies 'cause The Walking Dead" and the team did just that with zero enthusiasm just to push the title out as quickly as possible.

Let me say this again, bacause I don't think it stuck the first time - the team scanned posters by ASDA, TESCO and other UK supermarkets, re-touched the logos a bit so that it wouldn't be immediately obvious and put them in the game as textures. I'm sorry, I'm not stupid, I know the poster I'm looking at is TESCO's, removing a part of the logo doesn't help your case, I can still read the "Every Little Helps!" bit. I don't think they even bothered with removing the ASDA logo last time I checked, I suggest going to that level and looking yourself. It became a bit of a minigame - my girlfriend and I were looking at in-game textures, trying to figure out which supermarket they originally belonged to. "That looks like Marks & Spencers!" "Nah, I think it's Morrison's." "Oh yeah...". Laziness incarnate.

EDIT: You think I'm joking?

In-game poster:
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Lidl's poster:
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Here's how the process of drawing textures for ZombiU looked like:
  1. Go to Google Graphics
  2. Type in "Supermarket poster"
  3. Steal texture
  4. Re-touch
 

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Maybe people just expected more of Ubisoft? The game feels like it was made by a team of fresh graduates, it looks, feels and plays amateurish. When you see Ubisoft releasing Far Cry 4 in one hand and ZombiU in the other, you have to stop and wonder whether the game had any resources or talent allocated to it. Here's how I think it went down - a group of devs had an idea about Killer Freaks from Space, some big wig exec in Ubisoft said "nah, too risky, make it about zombies, people like zombies 'cause The Walking Dead" and the team did just that with zero enthusiasm. Let me say this again, bacause I don't think it stuck the first time - the team scanned posters by ASDA, TESCO and other UK supermarkets, re-touched the logos a bit so that it wouldn't be immediately obvious and put them in the game as textures. I'm sorry, I'm not stupid, I know the poster I'm looking at is TESCO's, part of the logo doesn't help your case, I can still read the "Every Little Helps!" bit. I don't think they even bothered with removing the ASDA logo last time I checked, I suggest going to that level and looking yourself. It became a bit of a minigame - my girlfriend and I were looking at in-game textures, trying to figure out which supermarket they originally belonged to. "That looks like Marks & Spencers!" "Nah, I think it's Morrison's." "Oh yeah...". Laziness incarnate.
So what if the posters an Tesco poster....? And Ubisoft is making shite games for years, that's nothing surprising, just the huge hate about the game is surprising me. There's no need for it, if you think that its a flop then that's fine but just stop poking everyone's eyes because of it. People feel really offended because of the game which they shouldn't really be.
 
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So what if the posters an Tesco poster....? And Ubisoft is making shite games for years, that's nothing surprising, just the huge hate about the game is surprising me. There's no need for it, if you think that its a flop then that's fine but just stop poking everyone's eyes because of it. People feel really offended because of the game which they shouldn't really be.
Are you really asking me why it's a bad thing to take something that someone else made, scan it, edit it a little bit so it's not obvious and then say that you made it? There's a term for it, it's called plagiarism. Someone was literally paid to design that poster, Ubisoft took it, put it in their game and didn't give a flying duck - it's lazy, they couldn't even spring for a fake damned poster, they had to steal one for their amateurish game. It's an example of the level of laziness we're dealing with here, one of many, I might add. The majority of the game was a flatline for me, with the exception of one level - The Nursery is done very competently and whoever made that squeezed a little bit of talent onto this generic game, for which he or she has my thanks.
 
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Let me say this again, bacause I don't think it stuck the first time - the team scanned posters by ASDA, TESCO and other UK supermarkets, re-touched the logos a bit so that it wouldn't be immediately obvious and put them in the game as textures. I'm sorry, I'm not stupid, I know the poster I'm looking at is TESCO's, removing a part of the logo doesn't help your case, I can still read the "Every Little Helps!" bit. I don't think they even bothered with removing the ASDA logo last time I checked, I suggest going to that level and looking yourself. It became a bit of a minigame - my girlfriend and I were looking at in-game textures, trying to figure out which supermarket they originally belonged to. "That looks like Marks & Spencers!" "Nah, I think it's Morrison's." "Oh yeah...". Laziness incarnate.
If this is lazyness then we should start criticizing Fallout for stuff like Nuka Cola. I really don't see how this is a legit complaint except maybe if you are working for Tesco. The game designers might've as well wanted to establish parallels to the real world.
 

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If this is lazyness then we should start criticizing Fallout for stuff like Nuka Cola. I really don't see how this is a legit complaint. The game designers might've as well wanted to establish parallels to the real world.
There's a very big difference between Nuka Cola, which is a satire on Coca-Cola, and including a scanned pre-existing poster in your game, which is a satire on "working".
 
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Are you really asking me why it's a bad thing to take something that someone else made, scan it, edit it a little bit so it's not obvious and then say that you made it? There's a term for it, it's called plagiarism. Someone was literally paid to design that poster, Ubisoft took it, put it in their game and didn't give a flying duck - it's lazy, they couldn't even spring for a fake damned poster, they had to steal one for their amateurish game. It's an example of the level of laziness we're dealing with here, one of many, I might add. The majority of the game was a flatline for me, with the exception of one level - The Nursery is done very competently and whoever made that squeezed a little bit of talent onto this generic game, for which he or she has my thanks.
I don't really care about posters in games when i need to save my head from zombies, if i cared then i would care about the rocks in Witcher 3 and flaws in many other games.
 
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There's a very big difference between Nuka Cola, which is a satire on Coca-Cola, and including a scanned pre-existing poster in your game, which is a satire on "working".
yeah it's a satire but it's also what you described. Taking preexisting objects from the real world, slightly changing them and calling it a day. Just because there is satirical background doesn't make it any better. It's funny, sure, but it's still a reskinned Coca Cola just like said supermarket posters.
 

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