Hacking [WIP] KARL3DS - Kernel access on N3DS via Ninjhax + Loadcode

Penny Morecash · Mar 29, 2015

I'm not being negative or destructive, I'm just asking a few questions.

It just seems that that this stuff all used to be open and public and everyone used to help each other, now it's just people making a name for themselves off others work.
The PS3 scene has moved in the right direction, just need the 3DS scene to get there too!

Psi-hate · Mar 29, 2015

Shhh...Nobody but you cares. Drop it before the mods get angry.

Penny Morecash · Mar 29, 2015

Dropped, clearly this was not the right thread to ask about KARL...
Us girls clearly don't ask the right questions in the right places.

SORRY I SPOKE!

Psi-hate · Mar 29, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Dropped, clearly this was not the right thread to ask about KARL...
Us girls clearly don't ask the right questions in the right places.

SORRY I SPOKE!

Just be a little respectful when trying to debate.

TotalInsanity4 · Mar 29, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Dropped, clearly this was not the right thread to ask about KARL...
Us girls clearly don't ask the right questions in the right places.

SORRY I SPOKE!

I don't think this has anything to do with the fact that you are female, just more along the lines that you were aggressively attacking developers regarding the work they are (or, so you claim, aren't) doing.

WulfyStylez · Mar 29, 2015

After some intense debugging of every single stage of our mset hax, we now have an actual genuine 100% success rate!! When I shot that video yesterday we were at maybe 30-40% because of a lot of bugs which all caused failures. I had to completely rework our ROP, as well as comb through all our arm11 code to check for places things could potentially mess up. But it's done! It's nice to see it work so well, given the hours of work I put into it.

WhoAmI? · Mar 29, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Dropped, clearly this was not the right thread to ask about KARL...
Us girls clearly don't ask the right questions in the right places.

SORRY I SPOKE!

Uh, don't feel put down. It's just that you shouldn't expect something off someone if they aren't getting anything in return. Neither should they be expected to release their work in haste. You just need to be a bit more respectful, that's all.

sblast3 · Mar 29, 2015

Fantastic work on bringing back the old mset! I'm surprised something like that is possible on sysNand!

Is it possible to create a whitelist that will block out games with >9.2 firmware? Or would that screw up the signatures?

WulfyStylez · Mar 29, 2015

sblast3 said:
Fantastic work on bringing back the old mset! I'm surprised something like that is possible on sysNand!

Is it possible to create a whitelist that will block out games with >9.2 firmware? Or would that screw up the signatures?

Nope, you're pretty much limited to downgrading things since everything needs to be signed. That being said, the only way Nintendo can remove mset hax on 7.0+ (including 9.3+ if those ever get hax) is to make a title blacklist of some sort. It's a possible thing but unlikely.

TotalInsanity4 · Mar 29, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
Nope, you're pretty much limited to downgrading things since everything needs to be signed. That being said, the only way Nintendo can remove mset hax on 7.0+ (including 9.3+ if those ever get hax) is to make a title blacklist of some sort. It's a possible thing but unlikely.

Since my question got buried a little bit ago, I'd like to politely ask again: would it ever be possible to launch this from a web exploit, or will it always be locked to an exploitable game?

misterb98 · Mar 29, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
Nope, you're pretty much limited to downgrading things since everything needs to be signed. That being said, the only way Nintendo can remove mset hax on 7.0+ (including 9.3+ if those ever get hax) is to make a title blacklist of some sort. It's a possible thing but unlikely.

Even if they made a title blacklist, couldn't you just overwrite the blacklist with an older/nonexistant one, then proceed to downgrade anyway?

Zidapi · Mar 29, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
80% is a bit much... more like 8%
You have taken the code from yifan (GW v3) and added old firmware addresses to it.

When do you think you will port rxTools over to it?

Yes, if something hasn't see the light of the publics day then yes it's still vapourware!

LinkmstrYT said:
Time to add to my ignore list.

"Great minds..." and all that.

WulfyStylez · Mar 30, 2015

misterb98 said:
Even if they made a title blacklist, couldn't you just overwrite the blacklist with an older/nonexistant one, then proceed to downgrade anyway?

It'd probably be part of process9, so nah.

TotalInsanity4 said:
Since my question got buried a little bit ago, I'd like to politely ask again: would it ever be possible to launch this from a web exploit, or will it always be locked to an exploitable game?

Sure! Any entrypoint can be used to install mset hax, and our code that's actually used for mset hax can be ported to any entrypoint. Here's hoping someone releases skaterhax soon.

TotalInsanity4 · Mar 30, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
Sure! Any entrypoint can be used to install mset hax, and our code that's actually used for mset hax can be ported to any entrypoint. Here's hoping someone releases skaterhax soon.

*stupidly happy noises* So you mean to say that I can get for free on a 9.2 2DS what both Cubic Ninja and GateWay would cost me around $120 to accomplish? (Minus ROM loading)

NyaakoXD · Mar 30, 2015

TotalInsanity4 said:
*stupidly happy noises* So you mean to say that I can get for free on a 9.2 2DS what both Cubic Ninja and GateWay would cost me around $120 to accomplish? (Minus ROM loading)

Something like that, yes.

Kikirini · Mar 30, 2015

So, maybe this has been asked before, but... I transferred all of my purchases over to a Gateway emunand. What would I have to do to transfer that to a KARL emunand? Or is GW's going to be compatible with KARL?

WulfyStylez · Mar 30, 2015

Kikirini said:
So, maybe this has been asked before, but... I transferred all of my purchases over to a Gateway emunand. What would I have to do to transfer that to a KARL emunand? Or is GW's going to be compatible with KARL?

It'll be super easy to just switch your emunand to our format. You won't have to reformat or transfer or anything like that.

NyaakoXD · Mar 30, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
It'll be super easy to just switch your emunand to our format. You won't have to reformat or transfer or anything like that.

Whoa, that sounds really promising already. :0

Kikirini · Mar 30, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
It'll be super easy to just switch your emunand to our format. You won't have to reformat or transfer or anything like that.

Huzzah!

Alkéryn · Mar 30, 2015

WulfyStylez said:
It'll be super easy to just switch your emunand to our format. You won't have to reformat or transfer or anything like that.

and to switch back karl to gw?

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