So obviously banning isn't the proper options. Banning might even make some people want to do it more, or at least try it. People are rebellious by nature and if the government says they cant try something, it might make them wanna try it (notice I say might). A lot of people smoke weed. I'm not gonna make up numbers or even look for some statistic (because it probably wouldn't be too accurate anyways), but I imagine if it were legal and regulated (21+) like alcohol, it wouldn't be much different than it is now, and it wont be so taboo, and the states and federal government would be making tax revenue and not spending government funding to fight marijuana. Maybe they could spend it on something serious like meth, heroin, and cocain. Most of these drugs are imported from other countries, and are ran by gangs and drug lords. Most (or at least a lot) of marijuana is grown and sold by your friend or his uncle, not cooked in some country and smuggled in God knows how many nasty ways (read some stories of people trying to smuggle drugs, it's nasty).
What's wrong with weed?
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So obviously banning isn't the proper options. Banning might even make some people want to do it more, or at least try it. People are rebellious by nature and if the government says they cant try something, it might make them wanna try it (notice I say might). A lot of people smoke weed. I'm not gonna make up numbers or even look for some statistic (because it probably wouldn't be too accurate anyways), but I imagine if it were legal and regulated (21+) like alcohol, it wouldn't be much different than it is now, and it wont be so taboo, and the states and federal government would be making tax revenue and not spending government funding to fight marijuana. Maybe they could spend it on something serious like meth, heroin, and cocain. Most of these drugs are imported from other countries, and are ran by gangs and drug lords. Most (or at least a lot) of marijuana is grown and sold by your friend or his uncle, not cooked in some country and smuggled in God knows how many nasty ways (read some stories of people trying to smuggle drugs, it's nasty).
Well, I'm only going to talk regarding that aspect... I know lots of people that do weed, my cousin and all his skater friends do it every once in a while... Truth be told, he was my best back in the days we used to skate together, however nowadays he's not the same, hell, not just him, but the other guys as well, last time I tried having a convo about any topic that demanded usage of the brain and stuff, it was a failure, god... For other people under the effect of weed, sure, you're all fun as hell and so sociable, but with normal people that aren't under the effect, not so much. I have nothing wrong with people that smoke that, but having a convo or try to go and hang out with someone after he just had smoked weed? No way, last time I tried doing that it was embarassing for myself.
Yeah see, I don't know how, or why people get like that. If people smoke it to get stupid high, then there's no fun in that at all. If you can keep it under control, then you, along with everyone else who isn't high, is happier.
ShadowSoldier, I find a severe flaw in your thinking. You keep comparing smoking weed to the currently legal acts of smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol. Your argument is that smoking weed is not as bad as smoking tobacco. And yet both habits are friggin terrible.That argument has merit, yes, but it's not a complete ideology.
To be perfectly honest, my personal opinion of "what's wrong with weed?" questions is this type of thread in and of itself.
To be perfectly honest, my personal opinion of "what's wrong with weed?" questions is this type of thread in and of itself.
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There's no denying that medical marijuana has a statistically significant effect in reducing cancer, but the overall clinical effect is small. And even if it could reduce tumor sizes by 90%, it wouldn't stop the cancer from just growing back to its original size. The bottom line is that short of removing the entire tumor (which in itself is extremely difficult to do; if the surgeon misses even a microscopic amount of tumor it can grow back), there is no cure for cancer--only treatments to manage it and slow its progression. Usually the best you can hope for is remission. So the argument that "marijuana reduces cancer, therefore you should smoke it" is moot. Besides, people really shouldn't compare university dorm-grade weed with medical marijuana, which is generally of a superior grade.
THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) has been shown to reduce pain and improve mood (obviously), but has also been shown to impair memory and overall cognitive functions, as well as decrease motor coordination.
My stance is that putting any kind of chemical in your body for recreational purposes isn't good for your health if done on a regular basis. This includes inhaling smoke or fumes of any kind and ingesting hard alcohol (but red wine is good, in moderation, because of the resveratrol it contains). But if the government wants to legalize tobacco and alcohol, there's no compelling reason why marijuana should be illegal. They should either legalize marijuana, or make tobacco and alcohol illegal.
I think that the reasons why marijuana is illegal are more political than out of concern for peoples' health. There is no Altria Group equivalent for marijuana, therefore no huge international corporation with rich shareholders and powerful lobby groups backing it. If Phillip Morris himself had marketed marijuana the same way he did with tobacco back in the 1800's, I'm sure things would be very different now.
THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) has been shown to reduce pain and improve mood (obviously), but has also been shown to impair memory and overall cognitive functions, as well as decrease motor coordination.
My stance is that putting any kind of chemical in your body for recreational purposes isn't good for your health if done on a regular basis. This includes inhaling smoke or fumes of any kind and ingesting hard alcohol (but red wine is good, in moderation, because of the resveratrol it contains). But if the government wants to legalize tobacco and alcohol, there's no compelling reason why marijuana should be illegal. They should either legalize marijuana, or make tobacco and alcohol illegal.
I think that the reasons why marijuana is illegal are more political than out of concern for peoples' health. There is no Altria Group equivalent for marijuana, therefore no huge international corporation with rich shareholders and powerful lobby groups backing it. If Phillip Morris himself had marketed marijuana the same way he did with tobacco back in the 1800's, I'm sure things would be very different now.
One note to all you guys who claim that you're safe to drive under weed: that is utter bullshit and you know it. Yeah it seems to make you more self-conscious and make you drive slower, but how is that any better? It's still screwing with your mind, and you have no right to endanger other people on the road when you're not 100% sober. Half of the people in a study could not pass a field sobriety test even 3 hours after smoking (though admittedly that info came from DUI school so the statistics are probably fudged a little).
That's part of the issue with legalizing or decriminalizing weed. It does mess up your driving, whether you choose to admit it or not, and it cannot be easily tested like it can with alcohol and breathalyzers. Weed smokers as a group tend to believe themselves far more capable of driving than drunks, when really there's not any functional difference. I'm not normally one to side with the cops here, but on this particular issue I will fight hard.
EDIT: for the record, I agree that the ban is more political than anything, as Denetsu posted above. The line "They should either legalize marijuana, or make tobacco and alcohol illegal." is pretty much what I was trying to say in my last post, and he said it better than I. I'm just more than a little passionate about driving while under the influence of anything. Personal experience and all.
EDIT 2: Also for the record, I have smoked before, so I'm not just talking out of my ass here. It's fun, and brings me to a state of "la-la land" equivalent to ~10 beers/shots with only a few hits, but that's the problem that I'm arguing here.
That's part of the issue with legalizing or decriminalizing weed. It does mess up your driving, whether you choose to admit it or not, and it cannot be easily tested like it can with alcohol and breathalyzers. Weed smokers as a group tend to believe themselves far more capable of driving than drunks, when really there's not any functional difference. I'm not normally one to side with the cops here, but on this particular issue I will fight hard.
EDIT: for the record, I agree that the ban is more political than anything, as Denetsu posted above. The line "They should either legalize marijuana, or make tobacco and alcohol illegal." is pretty much what I was trying to say in my last post, and he said it better than I. I'm just more than a little passionate about driving while under the influence of anything. Personal experience and all.
EDIT 2: Also for the record, I have smoked before, so I'm not just talking out of my ass here. It's fun, and brings me to a state of "la-la land" equivalent to ~10 beers/shots with only a few hits, but that's the problem that I'm arguing here.
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there's difference in weed, as some already maybe explained and you know, weed's is used in industry, to make clothes from the viber/ rope. because people neet protection. and some like to smoke it, it's not to have anymore as use it for your own body as a temple, such a sacrifice is now obsolete. i would say today i did garden work at the local Essential garden garden of herbs Botha, and came along doing clean up some crops, and also weed. i was thinking to brighten the canteen with some plants for the windows, because the older when died out. it got discussion of the weed. people who lead it said it wasnt good to put some few weeds for the window, because it could upset younger visitors to ruin it. well there was some good point at not to intend as that person said worried about it. i would say: take then after they close door at the end of the day, those plants from the window. ( i liked the idea, just to see them wave when the window is open.) an half hour later i made up mind and thought it had a better place to put one at the toilets with a note: this weed is here for the night visitor, for if there's a problem, unfortunately, not that anyone knows the toilet in time to reach them, and can't may not changing the clothes by any way, then take this pot of weed and carry it for the private parts, and see to go back for clothes, old fashion style,if you do not like to wear mass-produced paper. who's knows better that than wandering in a sticky pants.weed is tolerated here at shops, but why they talk about an weed-pass in the future? to carry a gram with that pass? why would that come from politic media news? i even didnt think to make an own creative signature/pass like there are so many. an passport with a whole plant fits it better to pass the border in this story, some people keep trying because they like it so much, stay away from it, but i still think you are free to try little.it has double sides, but an long rage to soft do user keeps, you get words about it, so far , how more far away you are in the position, to not use and talk about it it's hard/flaming about it not fair. what are you missing and others who do, think why dont they: it is difficult for anything to come in habits.
What this guy said! +1
Though I don't mind weed or am oppossed of it but its not something that I would reccommend. Though I shouldn't have much say in this because my last puff was @ 11/19/2011 and the reason was because I myself found it really stupid thing to do and it started to bother me. Also I didn't smoke 24/7 it was like.. twice a month and it wasn't much I smoked either. And really now that I think about it I only smoked weed for one whole year.. I started sometime around Nov' 2010.
All I can say is that the hightimez were fun but felt very empty afterwards. Now it just bothers me when someone offers me a puff..
My personal experience with weed is that it can be a great social thing when smoked with good mates. Not had a bad experience with it (aside from the odd whitey), and you gotta love the munchies. Pepperoni pizza never tastes as good when you aren't stoned. Just my 2 penniesworth
It induces laziness and weight gain. I've witnessed this first-hand.
that's not a valid excuse to smoke it, that'd be like saying "Stealing isn't as bad as murder, so it's OK to steal".
That being said, I do agree with you that smoking tobacco is worse than smoking weed, and I honestly don't know why it's illegal in the USA (haven't researched it), other then what I stated above (it makes you fat and lazy), and that it is addictive. I've witnessed several cases of this firsthand.
Another interesting note, in every case I've seen, the person who started out smoking marijuana eventually started smoking cigarettes, (and eventually other more potent, more dangerous drugs) because it provided a similar buzz, was legal, and cheaper. That isn't grounds for banning it, (based on things that may or may not happen), but it certainly is a dangerous possibility (in addition to the negative side effects posted above).
If any of you have read my blogs regarding my nephew, one account of this was of my sister.
that's not a valid excuse to smoke it, that'd be like saying "Stealing isn't as bad as murder, so it's OK to steal".
That being said, I do agree with you that smoking tobacco is worse than smoking weed, and I honestly don't know why it's illegal in the USA (haven't researched it), other then what I stated above (it makes you fat and lazy), and that it is addictive. I've witnessed several cases of this firsthand.
Another interesting note, in every case I've seen, the person who started out smoking marijuana eventually started smoking cigarettes, (and eventually other more potent, more dangerous drugs) because it provided a similar buzz, was legal, and cheaper. That isn't grounds for banning it, (based on things that may or may not happen), but it certainly is a dangerous possibility (in addition to the negative side effects posted above).
If any of you have read my blogs regarding my nephew, one account of this was of my sister.
It is potentially habit-forming, not addictive. There is a difference. The effects of cigarettes (a stimulant) feel nothing like weed (considered a depressant). I personally quit smoking cigarettes shortly after I began smoking weed. I also went back to college, began volunteering at an animal shelter, and have lost ~12 pounds since I began smoking.
That said, anecdotal evidence (both yours and mine) should not be taken as fact or be generalized.
Why it's illegal: Essentially a smear campaign lobbied for by dozens of producers that would have been crushed or extremely crippled by the derivatives of the cannibis plant; It's extremely durable and has a magnitude of uses, such as rope, clothing, oils, drying agents in paint, fiberboard, and even fuel. Anslinger (guy leading the charge against cannibis, then head of Bureau of Narcotics) spread lies and continued misconceptions about the plant on the radio and through public forums. During the hearing in the House of Representatives, Anslinger presented piles of testimony from random people speaking out against it (not a single one was actually qualified to speak on the risks and potential harms), literally including statements that cannibis led to mass murders, was the cause for latinos to be lazy and steal, and that it was responsible for black men 'lusting' after white women. From what I recall, only a single expert on the subject was called in, and he was ignored completely. It's now listed as a Schedule 1 drug (alongside the likes of heroin) though it only meets 1 of the 3 required criteria (high potential for abuse, even that is arguable) to be labeled as such. They abused the system to protect their profits and justify racism.
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This basically sums up how I feel. In addition, I feel it should be legalized simply because I find the arbitrary difference in legal status between tobacco and weed to be completely hypocritical. Tobacco is comparably about as harmful (give or take) as weed is, so why the heck is tobacco legal, while weed isn't? It's just ridiculous.
To play the devil's advocate here, tobacco does not have the same effect on people as weed. You don't really get high off of tobacco, which has made it far more socially acceptable.
I think people are mixing two things up:
Some of you are implying that smoking lots of weed makes you unmotivational...
But what if it's the unmotivational that is smoking lots of weed?
Two completely different statements targeting the same population. There is a world of difference between them.
Some of you are implying that smoking lots of weed makes you unmotivational...
But what if it's the unmotivational that is smoking lots of weed?
Two completely different statements targeting the same population. There is a world of difference between them.
Darn I have seen this being posted by a ton of people lately... What is it from? A movie?
It always reminds me of
Darn I have seen this being posted by a ton of people lately... What is it from? A movie?
It always reminds me of
It's not really from any movie or anything (though there is a movie with that title). It's an old expression that means, "One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position."
Basically, it's when someone takes the opposite side on an argument as a test to find if a person's logic holds up.
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