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New ROM Anti-Piracy Software, Out by December 2009
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 May 13 2009, 07:27 PM
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May 13 2009, 07:33 PM
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It's a Ntoligy  Group: Members Posts: 2,200 Joined: 31-January 08 From: unknown Member No.: 114,943  |
Doesn't this mean that only R4 users are affected?
Also, reguarly updated firmware shouldn't be affected too much... Unless this protection changes for every game... |
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May 13 2009, 07:39 PM
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GBAtemp Regular  Group: Banned! Posts: 168 Joined: 2-October 08 From: 1tb harddrive Member No.: 137,381  |
The Guy in the interview said that the code detects the type of flashcart and kills the rom. So it has something to do with dldi.
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May 13 2009, 07:41 PM
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GBAtemp Advance Maniac  Group: Members Posts: 1,719 Joined: 14-September 07 From: Behind you! I know you looked! Member No.: 101,448 |
QUOTE Unless this protection changes for every game... DING, DING, DING! 5 points to Antiology  . Yeah, that's kinda the whole problem here, it's making it as time-consuming as possible for hackers to crack.
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May 13 2009, 07:43 PM
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AKAIO Connoisseur Group: Head of Mag. Staff Posts: 4,460 Joined: 3-January 08 From: New Yawk Member No.: 111,084 |
i wish flash linkers still cost $150+. the drop below the $65 line made them accessible to more children and the current generation of drag/drop usage makes them more appealing. the problem now is that raising the cost would kill your company because these chinese companies have fine tuned the building process to the $2-4 range. you would have to offer something the other companies don't in order to sell kits at such a high price. but in the end, the higher price kits might be the ones that survive if this turns into an anti-piracy war between the software devs and the hackers.
-another world |
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May 13 2009, 07:44 PM
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Temps averaging 1 per day guy Group: Members Posts: 653 Joined: 18-August 08 From: The Shadows o_o :ninja: Member No.: 133,459 |
QUOTE December of this year. Maybe there is hope, Kingdom Hearts and Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver may be saved!!!!!! I just hope they don't delay them both now just for ths stupid measure to be put in LOL I'll kill someone if they do. |
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May 13 2009, 07:45 PM
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AKAIO Connoisseur Group: Head of Mag. Staff Posts: 4,460 Joined: 3-January 08 From: New Yawk Member No.: 111,084 |
QUOTE(hacker07 @ May 13 2009, 02:39 PM)  The Guy in the interview said that the code detects the type of flashcart and kills the rom. So it has something to do with dldi. its just checking the rom to see if it has been patched, each flash linker uses its own patching routines. roms need to be patched for a variety of reasons, i do believe even the rpg nand has dma patching involved. -another world |
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May 13 2009, 07:49 PM
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Never knew i could type something here xD Group: Members Posts: 2,672 Joined: 2-August 08 From: The Place Next Door Member No.: 132,408  |
 frivolous, but ingenious attempts to prevent piracy, i agree with another world on this, the problem is that it's so easy and so cheap to pirate DS games if you ask me, the people to blame are the game developers, who don't even try to do anything to prevent it...
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May 13 2009, 07:49 PM
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GBAtemp Fan Group: Members Posts: 435 Joined: 31-May 08 Member No.: 127,341  |
QUOTE(Antoligy @ May 13 2009, 08:33 PM) Doesn't this mean that only R4 users are affected? Also, reguarly updated firmware shouldn't be affected too much... Unless this protection changes for every game... Well they mention R4-style cards, and with that I think they don't mean the fakes but cards like TTDS, m3real, cyclo etc. And: "We add so much security to it that it will take a very long time to hack," so they want it to be time consuming rather than be a indestructible security wall. |
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May 13 2009, 07:49 PM
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Newbie Group: Newcomers Posts: 6 Joined: 5-May 09 Member No.: 176,912 |
So does this mean nintendo is having problems blocking the current flash cards? They have to put it in upcoming software? If so, this could be a relief to everyone buying the dsi flash cards, they'll just have to be careful from december 09 on...
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May 13 2009, 07:52 PM
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GBAtemp Fan Group: Members Posts: 336 Joined: 10-February 09 From: SC USA Member No.: 157,493 |
If the attempts are as cheap as the DSi security, it wont take long to hack.
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May 13 2009, 07:57 PM
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GBAtemp Regular Group: Banned! Posts: 168 Joined: 2-October 08 From: 1tb harddrive Member No.: 137,381 |
QUOTE(Another World @ May 13 2009, 08:45 PM) QUOTE(hacker07 @ May 13 2009, 02:39 PM) The Guy in the interview said that the code detects the type of flashcart and kills the rom. So it has something to do with dldi. its just checking the rom to see if it has been patched, each flash linker uses its own patching routines. roms need to be patched for a variety of reasons, i do believe even the rpg nand has dma patching involved. -another world Oh yeah. But can't they just change the patching routines. |
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May 13 2009, 07:58 PM
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AKAIO Connoisseur Group: Head of Mag. Staff Posts: 4,460 Joined: 3-January 08 From: New Yawk Member No.: 111,084 |
no, because patching is patching. the rom is now altered and new code is attached to it. it is very easy to see if this has been done regardless of the way in which it was done.
does that make sense? -another world |
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May 13 2009, 07:59 PM
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GBAtemp Regular Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: 11-May 09 From: California Member No.: 177,604 |
Well everyone gear up for this war. I'm not into developing, but I'm willing to jump in and program 'til my fingers are bloody.
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May 13 2009, 07:59 PM
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Professional loafer  Group: Members Posts: 3,120 Joined: 21-June 07 From: Georgia Member No.: 85,403 |
Sounds like politics to me. Reading that report, this is what came immediately to my mind:
Nintendo, under heavy and regular request from third parties -- likely with big shoutouts from Square Enix, EA and Activision -- have partnered with a third-party company to develop this anti-piracy measure as pacification for publishers. I don't glean anything that suggests Nintendo is on a crusade. They just need to present the appearance of making an effort to combat piracy on behalf of third-party publishers who make games on their platforms. |
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