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General softmod backup launching compatibility guide, For both Gamma and SoftChip
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Dec 17 2008, 04:15 PM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
Compatibilty for usb loaders:
Same as for discs, but - Problem category 1(IOS Reloading games). Settings for best compatiblity in NeoGamma and SoftChip for others, please look somewhere else): NeoGamma: Hooktype: none Ocarina: no Alternative .dol: no Boot language: Console Default (2nd test on import games: one language used in the game) Force Video: Disc Patch Video: no VIDTV Patch: no Patch Country Strings: no (3rd test on import games: yes) SoftChip: Game's Language: System Default (2nd test on import games: one language used in the game) Patch Country Strings: no (3rd test on import games: yes) Set Video Mode using: Disc Region Fake IOS version: yes Load requested IOS: no Known (game) compatibity issues from different cIOS revisions: USB capability was intoduced with rev9, SD/SDHC was introduced in rev10. rev 14: - Not DL compatible - Might be not compatible with discs that use 100% or almost 100% of the available space on discs 13b: lol 13a: - (could theoretically have issues with new games due to used main.dol patches) rev12: - Killer 001 patch, not compatible with SoftChip and NeoGamma(and maybe others) - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games rev11: don't know, most likely same as 12 rev10: - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games rev9: - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games rev8: - 002 main.dol patch ==> not compatible with 002b games - i'm almost sure it has the killer 001 patch too rev7: - No DL support, but all SL should work Problem category 1(IOS Reloading games) These games load their IOS themselves. For usb loaders this renders these games not playable, because a IOS Reload terminates usb storage, which could only be reinited by the application(the game) and not by the IOS. However these games are playable from disc, if the IOS that is loaded has the backip dip. If you have cioscorp installed, that's always the case. Without cioscorp, you can achieve it by patching the game to IOS249(does not work on 002 games!) or installing the right cIOS from cioscorp to replace the IOS that is requested. Example, if the game requests IOS53, it will work if you install cIOS53 from cioscorp. For disc&usb loaders: Some of these games have more than one .dol and can be played without that patching/cioscorp hassle and can be played from usb too. You need to load the actual game .dol directly instead of loading the main.dol there. That's what the alternative .dol loading in some loaders is good for(in NeoGamma for example, but lots of others have it as well). Army Men: Soldiers of Misfortune (maybe doesn't need the patching, 1 confirmation) Boogie (not Boogie Superstar which doesn't need this) Call of Duty 3 CSI: Deadly Intent(IOS53) FarCry(IOS9) Fate of Atlantis(inside Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings) FIFA 08 House of the Dead 2 Mahjong Kakutou Club(Mahjong Fight Club) Madden '07 Madden '08 Medal of Honor Heroes 2 Metal Slug Anthology Metroid Prime 1 Metroid Prime 2 Metroid Prime Trilogy Mortal Kombat Armageddon NBA Live '08 Pangya Golf With Style Red Steel(IOS9) Sam & Max Season One(IOS33) Splinter Cell Double Agent SSX Blur Super Swing Golf Video tutorial in Grand slam Tennis Video tutorial in Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 Video tutorial in Virtua Tennis Video tutorial in Wii Sports Resort PS: If you played one of these games unpatched, and now you patch(IOS Version patch) it in order to get it to work, you might run into savegame problems. It's confirmed that if you play FarCry until the crash point with the unpatched disc and then play further with the patched disc that you get savegame bugs up to a "system files are corrupt" message. So if you read this because you were searching a fix for one of these games, delete the savegame or have good brick protection when you patch now! Problem category 2(„002b“ games) These games only work if the memory 002 fix is used. If the main.dol 002 fix is used, these games freeze, using the memory 002 fix too does not help. Examples for the main.dol 002 fix are the cIOS rev8-rev12 + rev13b, SoftChip's Remove 002 option and the modified versions of Gamma and Gecko OS with 002 fix integrated. Examples for the new 002 fix are NeoGamma, SoftChip's Fake IOS Version option, Gecko OS 1.07b with the new 002fix and usb loader GX rev454+. So using cIOSrev13a + NeoGamma is one possibilty to play these games from disc or usb. Burger Island Diabolik The Original Sin(different reports) Ghostbusters Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings MySims Racing Nutrition Matters Solitaire And Mahjong Takt of Magic Problem category 3(heath screen freeze games) These games freeze at the heath screen for some users, mostly for people using discs and that only get 3x reading speed. There's no real solution for this problem yet. Some people get it to work by pressing certain buttons with the correct timing. And many people report that they get the game to load by pressing eject with the correct timing, and reinserting the disc when they are asked for. The correct timing seems to be as soon as the screen flashes white for the health screen. And a 3rd solution that is reported to work is to remove the sd card. It seems these problems are caused by faulty piracy releases, many people reported that a self created backup works flawlessly, while the 3 burns before have this issue. Maybe this problem is caused by scrubbing the game. Ghostbusters Summer Sports 2 Problem category 4(yet unknow protection) New Super Mario Bros When playing with a modchip or via usb, the game needs to be patched. The patching can be skipped by using an updated loader. NeoGamma R8beta12+ works for it, latest usb loader gx, most likely latest Configurable usb loader too and some others. When playing via softmod from a disc, cIOSrev15 has to be used, and the game has to be patched too. Note that NeoGamma and disc chanenl are not compatible with cIOSrev15. Problem category 5(games that don't work when the loader is compatible with Sam & Max) Most USB loaders are not compatible with Sam & Max at all. SoftChip is compatible with Sam & Max. NeoGamma R5+ is compatible with Sam & Max and also compatible with Wii Sports Resort due to a dirty fix, but not compatible with other games of this category. Seems this issue is related to old cIOS. Wii Sports Resorts works fine with cIOSrev14 and NeoGamma. Wii Sports Resort* *This game additionally requires that you have seen the wm+ video once. To see that, you need to treat the game as if it was an IOS Reloading game. Games with updated 001 error You need cIOSrev7 or 14(+) for this. The other cIOS try to patch 001 error in the game, but can't find it, because the code for it was modified. Generic Wii Patcher does not help, as it uses the same patch as the cIOS does. (for those who wonder why rev7 works, it works, because it restricts all discs to DVD5) New Super Mario Bros Wii Fit Plus 002 error: Rofl. No comment. Rock Band usb instruments: The drivers for the Rock Band usb instruments are only in IOS37(maybe in some more now, but not in any IOS<37). For discs there's a cIOS installer that allows you to install a rev7 cIOS based on IOS37 to any IOS slot you want. You need to select that IOS then in SoftChip to play with the instruments. For usb loading there's a cIOS from Hermes that can be „merged“ with IOS37 and be used by some of the usb loaders. Dual layer games: Metroid Prime Trilogy Super Mario Smash Brothers Brawl Won't work correctly with cIOSrev14, DL support is broken there for discs AND usb. With other cIOS: For usb loaders there should be no problem. For disc loading you need cIOS rev8 or higher. And best is to set the layer break manually to 2084960 when burning. And there are a lot of Wiis which have severe problems with dual layer discs, even with retail discs. DVD5 versions of SSBB seem to work fine with all cIOS from rev7 and up. Unconfirmed not working games: MLB power pros 2008 reading error after health warning, MLB power pros works fine Green Screen Freeze: Main 2 causes: - Forcing a video mode not present in a game. See region free gaming for more details. - Starting a 002b game with any kind of the old 002fix Region free gaming: Most if not all games from other regions should work, the only known problem is that about 50% of them only run the in the video modes of the region the game is from. Requirements to get import games working: - Use the video mode from the region of the game, in SoftChip and NeoGamma it's disc region video mode - Some games require that you force the language that is used in the game(example japanese for japanese games...) - Some games require to enable the option „Contry String patching“ (in for example NeoGamma or SoftChip) If the game works with this, but in black and white and/or with jumping screen, it's working. If you search for help somewhere mention this!!! How to fix color issues: Get NeoGamma, and try the different Force Video mode options and patch video mode options. Note that it does only work for about 50% of the games that result in a green screen freeze when started with the wrong video mode. PS: Most region patchers are epic failures, and cause more trouble to get the game(s) to work than unpatched Most common reasons why some/all games don't run - your Wii just can't read any DVD-Rs! - you use cIOSrev6(or earlier), 11 or 12 - you did not read AND understand the above lists - you are using "the" wrong loader - your HDD is not supported, are you able to play ANY games from usb? - you try to play an import game - you are using DVD+Rs and you don't know what bitsetting is - you patch video modes on a game that does not like it - you patched something else you should not patch(like crappy region patchers or brickcrap) - you have a bad burn, use half max burning speed and good media next time - you have a memory card in slot 2(Gamma only issue, fixed in NeoGamma) Checklist before posting problems: - check if your game is already listed - post only problems, most games work fine - you have to be able to reproduce the error and tell EXACTLY where the problem occurs - post all infos you can provide, cIOS, kind of media, game and wii region - test more than only your favourite loader - post if the game freezes or restarts, when it happens and what's displayed during it Downloads: Waninkoko's IOS Version patcher: http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko or: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=3812 Latest NeoGamma: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=158884 cIOS installer for cIOS37(for Rock Band on disc launched with SoftChip): missing cIOS installer for Hermes cIOS for Rock Band instruments and uloader: http://mods.elotrolado.net/~hermes/wii/uloader_v1.9.rar (unconfirmed and most likely very outdated) cIOS installers from Waninkoko: http://www.teknoconsolas.es/waninkoko cIOS rev13(a): http://www.mediafire.com/?hoqz1mykljh cIOS rev14: (missing) Generic Wii Patcher: http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=77938 This post has been edited by WiiPower: Nov 18 2009, 06:38 PM |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:32 PM
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GBAtemp Advance Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 733 Joined: 13-November 08 From: Utrecht,Netherlands,EARTH!!! Member No.: 142,457 |
----------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe there is a fix for the 002 protection used in these games: Need for Speed Undercover DonkeyKong Junglebeat If somebody posts something new here and gets confirmation by someone else, i will update this post Ehm...wasnt WiizleShizzleDizzle foe fixing that? |
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Dec 17 2008, 04:33 PM
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GBAtemp Maniac Group: Members Posts: 1,344 Joined: 25-October 08 Member No.: 140,065 |
no lol im now playing nfs undercover without modchip
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Dec 17 2008, 04:36 PM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
----------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe there is a fix for the 002 protection used in these games: Need for Speed Undercover DonkeyKong Junglebeat If somebody posts something new here and gets confirmation by someone else, i will update this post Ehm...wasnt WiizleShizzleDizzle foe fixing that? Look at the headline: It's a softmod thread. |
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Dec 19 2008, 12:54 AM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
Updated the 1st post.
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Dec 19 2008, 12:58 AM
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Demon Group: Members Posts: 1,050 Joined: 1-July 04 From: Germany , NRW Member No.: 24,554 |
Well ... don't you think there are to much not updated lists there already anyways ? its boring work reading every page over and over again to see if there are any new posts and update your first post than ...
for One piece ... like i already wrote in like 5 topics it works -.- ppl can say what they want there is no need of patching or changing the iso in any way at all. at least for me i just need to force lang english |
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Dec 19 2008, 01:02 AM
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GBAtemp Advance Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 16-April 08 From: Gates of the other world Member No.: 123,003 |
WTH ghost squad's not on here?
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Dec 19 2008, 01:02 AM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
Well ... don't you think there are to much not updated lists there already anyways ? its boring work reading every page over and over again to see if there are any new posts and update your first post than ... for One piece ... like i already wrote in like 5 topics it works -.- ppl can say what they want there is no need of patching or changing the iso in any way at all. at least for me i just need to force lang english What the exact title of One piece and are you sure there aren't different games? Oh and i think this thread is better than the others(talking about self-overestimation...), because the others are either very old or just a noncompatibility list. I want a thread where you can look if your game works and if then how. |
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Dec 19 2008, 01:29 AM
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GBAtemp Addict Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 1-June 04 Member No.: 23,643 |
Your information that "SEGA Superstars Tennis" needs patching is wrong. The unpatched, but scrubbed, ISO works totally fine for me. As for "Sam & Max - Season 1" patching the IOS to 249 didn't work either.
WTH ghost squad's not on here? Ghost Squad didn't need any patching for me. |
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Dec 19 2008, 01:50 AM
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GBAtemp Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 139,620 |
fifa 08 works with Waninkoko's IOS Version patcher to IOS249
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Dec 19 2008, 01:53 AM
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GBAtemp Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 139,620 |
Disney Think Fast does not need ios version patcher
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Dec 20 2008, 01:27 PM
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GBAtemp Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 150 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 139,620 |
far cry vengeance still crashes on second level with ios249 patch.....must be something else
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Dec 20 2008, 01:42 PM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
far cry vengeance still crashes on second level with ios249 patch.....must be something else I searched for it, i didn't find anything about this issue. Could you explain where exactly this crash happens? If anybody else already confirmed it, could you provide a link to it? If you are the only person with this problem, could you check if your burn isn't the problem? If you didn't do the verfication after burning, you can verfiy your burn in imgburn. |
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Dec 20 2008, 02:00 PM
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far cry vengeance still crashes on second level with ios249 patch.....must be something else I searched for it, i didn't find anything about this issue. Could you explain where exactly this crash happens? If anybody else already confirmed it, could you provide a link to it? If you are the only person with this problem, could you check if your burn isn't the problem? If you didn't do the verfication after burning, you can verfiy your burn in imgburn. this game is listed as not working in your first post and also in other combatibilty threads, i am just confirming that it indeed does not work even when patched with ios249 the wii restarts after completing the first level during the "plane flight away from the island movie cut scene" just rechecked threads......only listed as a pal problem...ntsc not listed as having a problem This post has been edited by wiigee: Dec 20 2008, 02:06 PM |
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Dec 20 2008, 02:05 PM
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GBAtemp Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,131 Joined: 17-October 08 Member No.: 139,019 |
this game is listed as not working in your first post and also in other combatibilty threads, i am just confirming that it indeed does not work even when patched with ios249 the wii restarts after completing the first level during the "plane flight away from the island movie cut scene" Thank you for this information. Does it need to be patched to be started? Could you please verify your burn? I know a lot of people skip it, because if it succeeds, this means nothing. But if it fails, you can't read 100% of the disc, and your issue could be a bad sector. |
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