Question How will gbatemp handle links to shops that sell pirated firmware

[notimp]

So TX' "firmware SKU" is literally pirated Nintendo firmware, modified with its own DRM layer, then sold in stores. Which are linked in here.

Is the "I'm just buying the license for that firmware in those stores" argument enough to freely link to stores selling pirated firmware?

You know - details...

Should we report those links. Should we pretend, they arent what they are?

Should we only ignore those of them that allow paypal?

 

[notimp]

Please understand, you're assuming there is copyrighted code. While you believe you have strong evidence for this, it's still an assumption.

The "OS" sounds like it's...ahh...put together on first run. Meaning it doesn't have everything it needs without having that first run. Which would suggest Executor code does not use copyrighted code, but is homebrew that edits checks/etc of the official firmware and uses emunand. At least, that seems most likely. Just look at the 3ds and how that whole thing works.

I highly doubt that this is the functionality - because that would mean, that people have to update to the most recent OFW first, before they can apply "TX" patches -- to be enabled to run current games.

So the TX solution fries all e-fuses on your switch to build the CFW?

Also why are they selling an OS then?

The answers seem like a pure PR spin to me.

 

[tpax]

Wow, OP is sooooo salty. Blowing so much salt against piracy on a forum that was built on pillars of it. OP is probably a ResetEra SJW.

1. No, you can't get an official statement from GBAtemp, until someone in charge decides that there is a necessity to give a statement. You're not in a position to demand anything.
2. They are not shipping a pirated firmware, they will ship the same stuff as Atmos or any other CFW, that is patches to alter your OFW. The only difference is that they charge money for this, which is ok. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
3. Stop pretending to care about the copyright law. You're on a site that was one of the very first ressources online if it came to getting ROMs or console hacks. Your motives lie elsewhere.

 

[osaka35]

I highly doubt that this is the functionality - because that would mean, that people have to update to the most recent OFW first, before they can apply "TX" patches -- to be enabled to run current games.

So the TX solution fries all e-fuses on your switch to build the CFW?

Also why are they selling an OS then?

The answers seem like a pure PR spin to me.

Why do you feel it would require the most recent OFW?

 

[ChaosInJapan]

Nono, HorisonOS is showing the Nintendo logo. It's not the CFW itself. Sure the Switch Image is iffy, but tons of software uses it.

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Yeah, I'm just aborting this thread. It's obvious you don't understand how these software will work. If it was a fully OS it would be like a Linux OS. This is just patches that's get loaded. Same that Luma3DS does on the 3DS.

Seriously, like, it's gotta be just "a few" lines of code. It just patches on-the-fly the Horizon OS, to be able to mount the roms found on the SD while using a combination of buttons (L + R, apparently from the video). Nothing else. And I guess it will allow some other features like using Hombrew Loader and such.
Meaning it's not a "pirating license" of any sorts. Not even Atmosphere is a complete firmware.

If there already was a free solution (or any news about one), we wouldn't be here checking out TX's product. Let us be.

 

[notimp]

And please let me clarify - I dont intend on setteling, on this being simply a "missunderstanding".

Are they selling an OS, or "patches to an OS"?

The store descriptions all say, that they are selling an OS.

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Why do you feel it would require the most recent OFW?

Because people would like to play recent games.

 

[Joom]

They sell their product as

• Xecuter SX OS

So they are selling the operating system (OS), not software that applies patches. A loader isn't an OS either. So again, no ambiguity there.

Ah, there it is. Hi, troll. Is Luma3DS a 3DS? How literal are we going to get here? Buzzwords man, how do they work?

 

[TheCyberQuake]

I highly doubt that this is the functionality - because that would mean, that people have to update to the most recent OFW first, before they can apply "TX" patches -- to be enabled to run current games.

So the TX solution fries all e-fuses on your switch to build the CFW?

Also why are they selling an OS then?

The answers seem like a pure PR spin to me.

That's not how it works. You won't have to update to use atmosphere, so why wouldn't it be the same for sx os?

 

[smf]

I don't think it's a misunderstanding at all. I think OP wants to know A if the OS TX is building and selling has ofw code from Nintendo, or is it just patches.

The OP made a statement of fact "So TX' "firmware SKU" is literally pirated Nintendo firmware", he doesn't seem to want to know if it contains copyright code as he has already decided it has.

I highly doubt that this is the functionality - because that would mean, that people have to update to the most recent OFW first, before they can apply "TX" patches -- to be enabled to run current games.

They don't claim that you can run all games on any firmware, they say their product is compatible with any firmware. However it may be that they spoof the os and introduce newer keys on older firmwares, that is technically possible.

So the TX solution fries all e-fuses on your switch to build the CFW?

Why would it need to?

Also why are they selling an OS then?

OS is a very loose term and they aren't necessarily using it to mean the same thing as you expect.

In the same way people use the terms "roms" and "isos" incorrectly.

 

[notimp]

They are not actually selling an OS.

It says so in their product description on all those store pages linked in here.

 

[tech3475]

Lets wait until we know more about this first.

There are three ways I can think of for TX to distribute this:
1) The seller supplies the full firmware on purchase (OPs argument)
2) The seller supplies a license and the software is downloaded elsewhere
3) TX's CFW uses the NAND as a source and applies patches to it

 

[ChaosInJapan]

It says so in their product description on all those store pages linked in here.

It's just marketing. The Cobra Dongle for PS3 didn't sell an actual snake. For f***'s sake.

 

[notimp]

Ah, there it is. Hi, troll. Is Luma3DS a 3DS? How literal are we going to get here? Buzzwords man, how do they work?

If you are selling an OS, I have to assume that is what you are selling.

No ambiguity there.

 

[Joom]

Might I reiterate that OP is trolling. Go home everyone.

 

[osaka35]

And please let me clarify - I dont intend on setteling, on this being simply a "missunderstanding".

Are they selling an OS, or "patches to an OS"?

The store descriptions all say, that they are selling an OS.

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Because people would like to play recent games.

You sound like you don't have a lot of experience with custom firmware or the like. Once you have an emunand and edited the checks, you'll most likely be able to update and still have the checks edited.

or are you just trying to troll so you can level up on the forum quicker? Bit sad if that's the case.

 

[MHDestination]

It says so in their product description on all those store pages linked in here.

Again: Just marketing!

They don't use copyrighted code. They patch the stock os.

Team Xecuter operates on the edge of legality. But they have been on the market for almost 20 years.
They enable piracy for the enduser, but never did it by themself.

 

[notimp]

I think it is an insult, that the only out people can point to is that "OS" doest mean operating system, its just - like, you know - a marketing term.

There is some deep "double speak" BS going on right now - to make this seem like something that isn't a pirated Nintendo firmware.

 

[-----a]

Sounds like OP is just a little bitch who wants to whine about TX selling a dongle.

 

[smf]

I think it is an insult, that the only out people can point to is that "OS" doest mean operating system, its just - like, you know - a marketing term.

Please define "Operating System"

When I saw TX OS, I assumed they named it like that because it sounds a bit like texas.

 

[dimmidice]

I don't think it's a misunderstanding at all. I think OP wants to know A if the OS TX is building and selling has ofw code from Nintendo, or is it just patches. And B if so why is this forum supporting TXs decision on releasing questionable fw or OS?

Is this hard to prove right now? Yes cause TX hasn't said one way or another. So anyone who is inside TX CAN YOU ELABORATE?

It's a flawed assumption to make though. Based on past CFWs there's really no reason to assume this is how it'd work. It's clear OP just didn't get how it worked. on the off chance that If in future it does turn out that it does contain nintendo's code then it'll be dealt with then. There's no point even discussing this atm really.

 

[notimp]

Once you have an emunand and edited the checks, you'll most likely be able to update and still have the checks edited.

So to clarify. TX's product copies the official Switch nand to an sdcard, then boots it from there, then connects you to Nintendos servers to update the emunand firmware - then applies patches to it to be able to run unsigned code?

Isn't there a high ban risk, once you connect to Nintendos Servers with firmware running from an emunand partition?

And this is essential for the TX product to be able to run the most recent games?

Please clarify.