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[The Real Jdbye]

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if/once nintendo starts locking services behind its networks and tons of upcoming updates it gonna make the switch unplayable for me. ps3 did the same thing with netflix/youtube by requiring a log in and it really made access to a simple video service that much harder, then they kept adding that huge firmware update every month with all the hackers shutting down psn and locking everyone out of those services. The same thing happened to the VITA, moving files to and fro required internet connection alongside an update every other day.

the biggest problem for the wiiU was locking the wii into a whole different section, making something that shoulda have been simple into a 3min process, the wii had a huge install base with the elderly and im sure it made it much difficult for them to play simple wii games as it made it incredibly tedious for me. The switch solved this problem by making their interface simple much like the wii did by just having a picture to point and click

now when it comes to Nintendo's new service they will roll out in fall '17, I forgot to put a mention to the virtual console stuff, im not talking the neo geo stuff im talking the future gamecube and wii stuff, it would be horrible if they locked it behind an internet check or update.

I want to write a lot more but Im thinking about when i take my switch as a portable and how all of this stuff can be a disaster, if your sitting at public wifi place and then you log into its garbage wifi and the auto update doesnt fully download, or your leave said place and it just messes everything up. splatoon is definitey not a game you can take on the go unless you own a very expensive phone hotspot plan.
I guess all im really saying is locking services behinds its own service would be a bad thing to do especially because its a portable system and ive already experienced the psvita

It would suck if they locked Netflix etc. behind the online paywall.
I wouldn't worry too much though.
They can't deny you access to physical games you bought and force you to connect online to update.
Digital games, maybe. In the past with the 3DS they have only done that with exploit games in order to prevent people from being able to access homebrew entrypoints.
They've never done it with physical games, and doing that would probably be illegal anyway.
Anyway, if it happens, we can worry about it then. For now there is no reason to believe they will do any of that.

Splatoon 2 can be played on the go. It only uses about 150 MB per hour of online play.

 

[gameboy]

I don't, I'm just trying to point that there are so many options besides the Switch to access those services. And the main use intended for the Switch is gaming.
Any user that start complaining because they can't access those services using the Switch (at least not in a free basis, and even so, some will still complain), should consider buying another device instead of a Switch as the main platform for accessing them.

That user base will not harm in any way the Switch's gaming platform.

i been thinking deep about the Switch recently, and if it looks like a tablet and is also labeled the most powerful tablet on the market i kind of expect it to have similar function. the switch right now seems to be mainly an adult console from what i've seen so far and people are so happy its a new concept and console etc but im looking at some of the many potential flaws this system can have in the future. sometimes when they over complicate things it really gets people mad sooner or later. the potential for the switch is HUGE but the downfall potential is also HUGE, i feel like it might become too dependent on internet usage and that would be a killer for me

when i look at all the current consoles at the moment, the xb1 is the perfect home console, they catered to the public, added backwards compatibility, all media playable, easy service access, not too many locks and even homebrew by way of microsoft store. their problem was first party support and the first iteration was the weight of 6 vcr and the size of a multi disc player.

 

[Deleted User]

i been thinking deep about the Switch recently, and if it looks like a tablet and is also labeled the most powerful tablet on the market i kind of expect it to have similar function. the switch right now seems to be mainly an adult console from what i've seen so far and people are so happy its a new concept and console etc but im looking at some of the many potential flaws this system can have in the future. sometimes when they over complicate things it really gets people mad sooner or later. the potential for the switch is HUGE but the downfall potential is also HUGE, i feel like it might become too dependent on internet usage and that would be a killer for me

when i look at all the current consoles at the moment, the xb1 is the perfect home console, they catered to the public, added backwards compatibility, all media playable, easy service access, not too many locks and even homebrew by way of microsoft store. their problem was first party support and the first iteration was the weight of 6 vcr and the size of a multi disc player.

Must I remind you that the xbox one is not doing so well. Sony is just a cash grab with its ps4 right now (because they got too comfortable) And Must I remind the switch is not a traditional console.

 

[gameboy]

Must I remind you that the xbox one is not doing so well. Sony is just a cash grab with its ps4 right now (because they got too comfortable) And Must I remind the switch is not a traditional console.

the switch hit the 4mil sold extremely fast but i look at it and theres so many things the switch doesn't have, im assuming theyre waiting for their paid subscription to come before they reveal anything and i hope they don't lock too much behind the wall.

 

[wvsgnovize]

is also labeled the most powerful tablet on the market

Pretty sure nobody EVER claimed the Switch would be "the most powerful tablet". In fact, a lot of people seem to be upset about the fact that it ISN'T the most powerful tablet.

the switch right now seems to be mainly an adult console

Um..... we're still talking about the Nintendo Switch, right?

i feel like it might become too dependent on internet usage and that would be a killer for me

As everyone else on this forum has already told you: BUY GAME CARTRIDGES. You can go to a store, buy them, pop them in and play. NO INTERNET INVOLVED. And if you're talking about online games like MK8D and Splatoon2: Of course they're dependant on the internet. They're online games! (Even though both of them have offline single player modes that can be played without internet.)

Also, seriously: I've read through all you posts in this thread; what do you actually WANT? You don't want you Switch to rely on the internet, but you DO want streaming services? You don't want to have to wait for game downloads, but you refuse to buy cartridges or use auto-updateto avoid wait times? And you say that the XBONE is the perfect home console despite ALSO (and maybe even more) relying on online stores and game/system updates?

Right now, it kind of seems like every time someone debunks your criticisms, you pull out something new that appearently annoys you.

 

[linuxares]

Pretty sure nobody EVER claimed the Switch would be "the most powerful tablet". In fact, a lot of people seem to be upset about the fact that it ISN'T the most powerful tablet.


Um..... we're still talking about the Nintendo Switch, right?


As everyone else on this forum has already told you: BUY GAME CARTRIDGES. You can go to a store, buy them, pop them in and play. NO INTERNET INVOLVED. And if you're talking about online games like MK8D and Splatoon2: Of course they're dependant on the internet. They're online games! (Even though both of them have offline single player modes that can be played without internet.)

Also, seriously: I've read through all you posts in this thread; what do you actually WANT? You don't want you Switch to rely on the internet, but you DO want streaming services? You don't want to have to wait for game downloads, but you refuse to buy cartridges or use auto-updateto avoid wait times? And you say that the XBONE is the perfect home console despite ALSO (and maybe even more) relying on online stores and game/system updates?

Right now, it kind of seems like every time someone debunks your criticisms, you pull out something new that appearently annoys you.

What he basically want is this - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zephyrus-G...veASIN=B0736CH52D&ascsubtag=trd-1290731730-21

 

[Deleted User]

Pretty sure nobody EVER claimed the Switch would be "the most powerful tablet". In fact, a lot of people seem to be upset about the fact that it ISN'T the most powerful tablet.


Um..... we're still talking about the Nintendo Switch, right?


As everyone else on this forum has already told you: BUY GAME CARTRIDGES. You can go to a store, buy them, pop them in and play. NO INTERNET INVOLVED. And if you're talking about online games like MK8D and Splatoon2: Of course they're dependant on the internet. They're online games! (Even though both of them have offline single player modes that can be played without internet.)

Also, seriously: I've read through all you posts in this thread; what do you actually WANT? You don't want you Switch to rely on the internet, but you DO want streaming services? You don't want to have to wait for game downloads, but you refuse to buy cartridges or use auto-updateto avoid wait times? And you say that the XBONE is the perfect home console despite ALSO (and maybe even more) relying on online stores and game/system updates?

Right now, it kind of seems like every time someone debunks your criticisms, you pull out something new that appearently annoys you.

I'm going to argue for the sake of arguing here. But Nintendo switch is not a kids console, nor is it a adult's console. Its everyone console.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

At this point I don't care what Nintendo does or how much they'll charge or what they'll hinder behind a paywall. If it wasn't for Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 it'd go straight on eBay.

 

[gameboy]

At this point I don't care what Nintendo does or how much they'll charge or what they'll hinder behind a paywall. If it wasn't for Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 it'd go straight on eBay.

the 'home console' has been underwhelming and if the do lock all the good stuff behind a paywall im done with it regardless of whatever wiiu port they bring out next

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nintendo locks stuff with amiibo...

 

[Deleted User]

the 'home console' has been underwhelming and if the do lock all the good stuff behind a paywall im done with it regardless of whatever wiiu port they bring out next

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nintendo locks stuff with amiibo...

ok that is a problem I can agree with. But if enough backlash occurs, then they will step down, and go back to amino functionality like mario kart 8. However it is nice for a little extra with amino, but not locking a entire game mode.

 

[AshleyCummings]

Hey im not worried its 20$ TWENTY thats less money then what I have seen my friends pay up for PS3 & Xboxone...
if your that worried go invest in a roku or heck get Netflix Youtube and hulu on your PC or a Netbook .. even mobiles like android and ios can run those apps ...
its 20$ its the cheapest wifi service ive seen and when it comes in 2018 if I actually own a switch by then I would pay that fee even if it meant paying my hulu fee on top of that ..

Crunchyroll is that even on any Nintendo eshop o.O not sure that would be one of the video streamers coming to Nintendo right off the bat but still interesting ..

" splatoon is definitey not a game you can take on the go unless you own a very expensive phone hotspot plan."

uh you can play single player offline ..
I believe ALL Switch games have a offline mode or they state online only on the back ..
still might be portable but if your going out JUST TAKE A OFFLINE GAME WIH U i dont see why thats so hard..

 

[Xzi]

At this point I don't care what Nintendo does or how much they'll charge or what they'll hinder behind a paywall. If it wasn't for Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 it'd go straight on eBay.

If it wasn't for all the quality Nintendo first and second party games, you mean. Doesn't hurt that Switch is the most powerful portable console by far, either.

 

[gameboy]

If it wasn't for all the quality Nintendo first and second party games, you mean. Doesn't hurt that Switch is the most powerful portable console by far, either.

nintendo's last 'dream big' game was Zelda WiiU, the console was dead and they needed a splash. Since then every Switch game as been small:Arms, Splatoon, 1-2switch. Even the switch games can't run without workarounds to pixel rate changes

i want the video services now, i feel they'll come out when subscription fees pop up

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uh you can play single player offline ..
I believe ALL Switch games have a offline mode or they state online only on the back ..
still might be portable but if your going out JUST TAKE A OFFLINE GAME WIH U i dont see why thats so hard..

splatoons offline isn't that good, ran through every level without retries with a full battery charge and another quarter charge to collect everything

 

[Xzi]

nintendo's last 'dream big' game was Zelda WiiU, the console was dead and they needed a splash. Since then every Switch game as been small:Arms, Splatoon, 1-2switch. Even the switch games can't run without workarounds to pixel rate changes

Silly claim to make, most everything has been running at 60 FPS and everything else at a smooth 30. We've already seen one open-world game on the system and we know plenty more are coming. Skyrim will run better on Switch than any other portable system, again by far. So unless you want to spend $800+ on a more powerful gaming laptop, there's no point in whining about Switch's performance.

i want the video services now, i feel they'll come out when subscription fees pop up

Honestly I couldn't give a damn when/if streaming services come to Switch. They're available everywhere already, including your phone. To stream outside of wifi coverage you'd have to hotspot your phone anyway.

 

[gameboy]

i only use my phone for calls and texts, im an old school millennial.

the switch lineup is weak so far i hope rabbids, oddysey and xenoblade are good (preordered them)
but the only this gen 'home console' i have is the NSW and it comes with none of the home console essentials
its like calling something a kitchen when theres only a microwave

 

[Xzi]

it comes with none of the home console essentials

Neither did the PS4 or XB1 less than a year after launch. Also depends on what you define as "essentials."

 

[cybrian]

the wii had a huge install base with the elderly

I have no idea what you are trying to say, but I lost it at this

 

[tri_fin]

Am I the only person who doesn't just 'like' updates? I have had countless systems destroyed by updates. Mainly Windows Updates applied automatically. I hate auto updates. I hate updates that aren't announced in advance and that I am not privy to what is in them and why. I like to be in control of my stuff. Weird? No!

You guys sound like a bunch of sheep. Must update nintendo says so! Whether the OP is a pirate (and should just say so - who cares?!?) or not there are too many updates in life. God forbid that a product leaves the manufacturer's finished. I realise we are all brainwashed into accepting beta products but everyone seems to like that.

 

[Xzi]

You guys sound like a bunch of sheep. Must update nintendo says so! Whether the OP is a pirate (and should just say so - who cares?!?) or not there are too many updates in life. God forbid that a product leaves the manufacturer's finished. I realise we are all brainwashed into accepting beta products but everyone seems to like that.

What does this have to do with Nintendo specifically? All modern hardware/software receives updates to bug fix and add features. You're not some "rebel" for refusing to update, you're simply willing to accept drawbacks of earlier versions to get free games/homebrew. Which is fine, just don't misrepresent it.

 

[gameboy]

What does this have to do with Nintendo specifically? All modern hardware/software receives updates to bug fix and add features. You're not some "rebel" for refusing to update, you're simply willing to accept drawbacks of earlier versions to get free games/homebrew. Which is fine, just don't misrepresent it.

its because the switch can be taken on the go, nintendo has a bad history with updates: 3ds, wii. They still have bad history with simple internet stuff too and pissing off their consumers