Hacking Switch boot procedure is now documented in switchbrew, and it has downgrade protection with fuses.

[MarioMasta64]

Technically someone can create a modchip to downgrade a Switch, modchips help with the Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS3, when I said hard mod, I also meant a mod chip.

Mod chips on PS3 and Xbox 360 help force those systems to downgrade and put cfw on them, while ignoring the efuses, I believe.

so then we would have to modchip a switch. wew boi i cant wait for the chinese to mass produce these things that will die in 2-10 yrs

 

[Deleted User]

wont be easy to wire any modchip if you looked inside the switch

 

[Yami Anubis ZX]

Technically someone can create a modchip to downgrade a Switch, modchips help with the Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS3, when I said hard mod, I also meant a mod chip.

wont be easy to wire any modchip if you looked inside the switch

People always say it won't be easy to do this and that but it always happens and will happen, it just takes time. Nintendo switch will be hacked, Nintendo is just delaying the inevitable, I'm sure in 2 years, someone will find a way, whether it's flashcards, modchips or what, it's not unhackable.

The Nintendo Switch is small on the inside but I'm sure someone will find a way to make a modchip for it, it's not impossible.

 

[Xzi]

Damn, 3.0 is really pushing the next update now just to allow me to play my games online. Earlier versions weren't as absolutist. I've got several games I'd like to keep playing online though, so I'll probably be going legit with this console. It'll be worth it for Pokemon and Smash online.

 

[Deleted User]

i think you can spoof the firmware if i am not mistaken

 

[aut0mat3d]

Firmware spoofing ATM? if, then non public as communication is done via HTTPS AFAIK

 

[Deleted User]

Firmware spoofing ATM? if, then non public as communication is done via HTTPS AFAIK

a guy on irc was saying with Fiddler you could still use the Online Mode with 3.0

 

[aut0mat3d]

aha, phps that guy can state how he did.
Some infos: https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-fidd...owing-online-play-or-was-that-patched.479413/

 

[Yami Anubis ZX]

If I'm not mistaken, some people have gotten bricks on there systems already and sent there's back to Nintendo and got it fixed within a week and it's the same system that they bought, so Nintendo does have a way to unbrick the Nintendo Switch and downgrade without blowing the efuses.

 

[adrifcastr]

If I'm not mistaken, some people have gotten bricks on there systems already and sent there's back to Nintendo and got it fixed within a week and it's the same system that they bought, so Nintendo does have a way to unbrick the Nintendo Switch and downgrade without blowing the efuses.

There is no reason for Ninty to downgrade your console when repairing, it always get's updated, pls think before posting.

 

[Yami Anubis ZX]

There is no reason for Ninty to downgrade your console when repairing, it always get's updated, pls think before posting.

That is not what I meant, I meant they can downgrade with whatever they are using to unbrick and don't call me stupid.

 

[adrifcastr]

That is not what I meant, I meant they can downgrade with whatever they are using to unbrick and don't call me stupid.

That's what I'm saying, they UPGRADE to unbrick, not otherwise

 

[Yami Anubis ZX]

That's what I'm saying, they UPGRADE to unbrick, not otherwise

I know that, I meant they can also use it to downgrade it aswell.

 

[adrifcastr]

I know that, I meant they can also use it to downgrade it aswell.

No, Package1 will panic if too many fuses are burnt

 

[Yami Anubis ZX]

No, Package1 will panic if too many fuses are burnt

Okay I see now, thank you, so it will need a mod chip. Thank you for explaining it this time. I have seen on Twitter that a guy made something for Reswitched, called the Chip whisperer.

 

[Futurdreamz]

If I'm not mistaken, some people have gotten bricks on there systems already and sent there's back to Nintendo and got it fixed within a week and it's the same system that they bought, so Nintendo does have a way to unbrick the Nintendo Switch and downgrade without blowing the efuses.

How do we know Nintendo didn't just swap out the motherboard or something?

 

[GerbilSoft]

I know that, I meant they can also use it to downgrade it aswell.

Or, the repair cartridge could bypass the eFuses altogether.

Package1, which verifies the eFuses, is loaded from eMMC. The Boot ROM probably has a way to load a different bootloader from cartridge, much like 3DS. (Of course, it'll need a valid signature.)

 

[Futurdreamz]

Or, the repair cartridge could bypass the eFuses altogether.

Package1, which verifies the eFuses, is loaded from eMMC. The Boot ROM probably has a way to load a different bootloader from cartridge, much like 3DS. (Of course, it'll need a valid signature.)

Which would be a dangerous thing to release to the wild. If Nintendo had a patch that rendered eFuses moot, how long until hackers figure out how to apply that patch to any system?

 

[adrifcastr]

Which would be a dangerous thing to release to the wild. If Nintendo had a patch that rendered eFuses moot, how long until hackers figure out how to apply that patch to any system?

you don't really get what he meant, the bootrom will load another bootloader from a repair cardridge which will ignore the sates of the fuses and so on

 

[Futurdreamz]

you don't really get what he meant, the bootrom will load another bootloader from a repair cardridge which will ignore the sates of the fuses and so on

And you are not getting what I am saying. If Nintendo sets up any easy way to bypass the eFuses then someone is going to figure out how it works and apply it to other consoles. If this is true, then it's only a matter of time before someone tips apart a fixed Switch and figures out how it was done.