UK police warns those who post "hate crime" and threatens users with "criminal offences"

[MadMageKefka]

All the ones that matter are, though.

Lol, kind of a dick thing to say. Isn't saying an entire nationality of people don't matter kinda racist? I'd think that would probably offend some people. Ironic, given your stance on this. Anyway, with the case of online it would take EVERYONE with online access. Not gonna happen.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

It obviously can if a significant portion of Europe and America actually start chasing cyber crimes in their jurisdictions, though

 

[MadMageKefka]

It obviously can if a significant portion of Europe and America actually start chasing cyber crimes in their jurisdictions, though

What is a cyber crime? Like, saying youre gonna kill someone in an argument? Saying that all (ethnic group here) are scum and should die in a post? It would reduce the amount for sure, but not stop it. No way. There are always places where it won't be illegal that we cant touch in a legal sense, and there are always ways for people here to hide themselves. Make that sort of thing illegal and those techniques will become more widely known, just like people keep finding new ways to pirate, or get drugs, or anything illegal.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Lol, kind of a dick thing to say. Isn't saying an entire nationality of people don't matter kinda racist? I'd think that would probably offend some people. Ironic, given your stance on this. Anyway, with the case of online it would take EVERYONE with online access. Not gonna happen.

Oh I'm not saying the people matter, but it's the money that matters and all the biggest economies are part of the UN.

 

[MadMageKefka]

Oh I'm not saying the people matter, but it's the money that matters and all the biggest economies are part of the UN.

Tiwan is the 5th biggest economy in Asia, and they aren't in the UN.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Tiwan is the 5th biggest economy in Asia, and they aren't in the UN.

That's because china won't let them.

 

[MadMageKefka]

That's because china won't let them.

Soooo.... Another case of people that can't agree on stuff?

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Soooo.... Another case of people that can't agree on stuff?

Nah, just a country that doesnt want another country to exist.
You do know how oppressive china, is right? Here's a primer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34729538

 

[MadMageKefka]

Nah, just a country that doesnt want another country to exist.
You do know how oppressive china, is right? Here's a primer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34729538

Oh, I know. Still kinda serves to prove my point, though. Never has the entire world all agreed on one thing and this idea won't be the first. Plus, like I said before, even if by some miracle it is made illegal world-wide, that still won't stop it. People will still need to learn how to deal with it.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Oh, I know. Still kinda serves to prove my point, though. Never has the entire world all agreed on one thing and this idea won't be the first. Plus, like I said before, even if by some miracle it is made illegal world-wide, that still won't stop it. People will still need to learn how to deal with it.

I don't think you can blame the world for an oppressive regime.

 

[MadMageKefka]

I don't think you can blame the world for an oppressive regime.

....you're still missing the point. Plus, there are other nations also not in the UN. Oh right... They "don't matter." My point remains. This will not work. If you think it will feel free to help it along, and then when we live in the mean person free utopia you seem to think is possible, you can say "haha, I was right." Until then, history and plain human nature is proof enough that this idea wont work and it won't solve anything. Lessen it at best.

Little detail tho, notice how we disagree on this? Case in point. Do you think I'm the only person in the world with this opinion?

 

[TotalInsanity4]

What is a cyber crime? Like, saying youre gonna kill someone in an argument? Saying that all (ethnic group here) are scum and should die in a post? It would reduce the amount for sure, but not stop it. No way. There are always places where it won't be illegal that we cant touch in a legal sense, and there are always ways for people here to hide themselves. Make that sort of thing illegal and those techniques will become more widely known, just like people keep finding new ways to pirate, or get drugs, or anything illegal.

So... because there's the possibility it won't matter, we shouldn't even try?...

 

[MadMageKefka]

So... because there's the possibility it won't matter, we shouldn't even try?...

If it means giving any government any more sort of control to police the internet, its not worth it. There is too much room there for that to be misused.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

If it means giving any government any more sort of control to police the internet, its not worth it. There is too much room there for that to be misused.

What do you think of, for example, police going after the host of a Red Room on the dark web?

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

....you're still missing the point. Plus, there are other nations also not in the UN. Oh right... They "don't matter." My point remains. This will not work. If you think it will feel free to help it along, and then when we live in the mean person free utopia you seem to think is possible, you can say "haha, I was right." Until then, history and plain human nature is proof enough that this idea wont work and it won't solve anything. Lessen it at best.

Little detail tho, notice how we disagree on this? Case in point. Do you think I'm the only person in the world with this opinion?

This is just denial.

 

[rileysrjay]

Nah, just a country that doesnt want another country to exist.
You do know how oppressive china, is right? Here's a primer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34729538

If Petoria can get into the UN then I think any country can:

 

[Deleted member 377734]

Screw you if you think privacy is moot. Also the nothing the hide is not an excuse. Most people break 3 or 4 laws a day without even knowing.

Aaaaand the people looking for things like terrorists and their plots will actually care about those 3 or 4 laws, i'm not saying it's moot, i'm saying people should quit whining about the governments trying to save lives.

 

[MadMageKefka]

This is just denial.

Lmao, okay.

What do you think of, for example, police going after the host of a Red Room on the dark web?

Not sure what that is. If it was planning to commit a real-world crime or something, sure, but if they are just talking racist shit about people together, well as much as I don't agree with it, I agree with giving the government the ability to silence it even less. Whats next? Wires in everyones homes so you can't say racist things there either?

 

[rileysrjay]

Lmao, okay.


Not sure what that is. If it was planning to commit a real-world crime or something, sure, but if they are just talking racist shit about people together, well as much as I don't agree with it, I agree with giving the government the ability to silence it even less. Whats next? Wires in everyones homes so you can't say racist things there either?

Well, the NSA is already listening to everything through our phones, TV's, and whatnot. So they already have the wires ready...

 

[TotalInsanity4]

A Red Room is online interactive torture

So then, if that's not ok with you, how do you feel about police going after webhosts dedicated to giving advice for suicide? (Locations, door combos, drug suggestions, injection/cutting sites, etc.)