PCWorld have tried, and apparently the answer is a big NO.



In an attempt to create a custom built computer with specifications matching exactly those of the newly revealed Xbox One X (which I personally decided to refer to as XB1X but feel to come up with your own acronym), PCWorld concludes that, apparently, for the first time in the history of gaming, a console may be more powerful than a custom built computer of the same price tag at the time of its release!

XB1X specs:
CPU: Custom AMD 8-core @ 2.3 GHz
GPU: Custom AMD chip @ 6.0 teraflops
RAM: 12 GB GDDR5
HDD: 1 TB
OPT: 4K Blu-ray drive

PCWorld's attempt #1
With 8GB DDR3 for a total cost of $652

PCWorld's attempt #2
With 8GB DDR4, for a total cost of $944

So... can you do better than PCWorld? Let us know what you think. PC master race!
Read more at PCWorld

 

[gnmmarechal]

I couldn't give less of a shit about its specs. What use are specs without the games I want?
Xbox is still a closed platform.

 

[Dasanko]

I don't know if anyone else has brought this up already, but ignoring the differences in capabilities on both consoles and computers, considering the price difference in software, PCs end up being cheaper in the long run (assuming you buy plenty of software, of course)...

 

[Duckling]

I feel like only XBOX enthusiasts will buy the Xbox 1 10 since the XBOX 1 performs about the same and will be able to run the same games for a cheaper price.

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Also, currently all RX 400 and RX 500 series GPUs prices have inflated by 200% so 250 USD is not really accurate at the moment. You could replace the RX 580 for a GTX 1060 3GB card and save a few bucks and get relatively similar performance if not better.

 

[Steena]

It's not a very good strategy to make profit, they will lose a lot of money on this for months/years. It will only pay off if they manage to take a foothold in the market again. I see this as their last ditch effort to catch up with Sony.

The PS3 was sold at a loss, and was very expensive at launch - they tried to make money on selling the games, but in the end the cheaper and less suped up console won. The XB1X reminds me a lot of the PS3, and that doesn't bode well for M$.

That's the short term. The PS3 situation then got better and Sony and third parties supported the console much longer, infact it gets pseudo-exclusive jrpgs this year, whereas the 360 has been dead in the water and irrelevant for quite some time now.
The more you invest selling at a loss the longer you plan to sell it. According to wikipedia the 360 sits at 84m consoles sold versus PS3's 80 millions, and that's up to 2013. So the numbers are skewed in favor of the PS3 in some capacity since it got quite a lot of new niche japanese games since then. Regardless, they are pretty close numbers. If you consider how absolutely disastrous the PS3 was at the beginning, you'd believe it would have sold 1/10th of the 360.

Most consoles are also sold at a loss, this is not a shocking news nor bad strategy. Profiting -$10 or +$20 per console doesn't actually matter as much as pricing it right to grow the initial spur of installbase because it's a product you'll sell for 5-8 years and it'll get exponentially cheaper, too.
And even then, you still make the most money selling off game licenses anyway. Remember, the bullshit subscription fees for online and whatnot, the services and all that stuff.

Besides, the 360 was sold at a big loss too. $120 per system according to a gamespot article from 2005. It's why that generation lasted so long. Both the competitors had to pan it out longer. They still profited relatively fine and only got beat by the Wii solely because it was a gimmick that caught on and became a short fad.

As far as I remember the WiiU was also sold at a loss but just buying one game would make them go in the positive already. A less aggressive loss, yet you can see how well that went for them. Console pricing is actually barely relevant and it's mostly gauged for the sake of the competition not its actual value.

I mean I just checked a recent sales chart and the PS3 has sold 2/3rd the WiiU units last month, despite there being a generation gap. Those numbers pile up when it comes to a decade of constant selling.

 

[Pluupy]

Who the hell spends $130 on a blu ray drive? What the fuck are you gonna do with a blu-ray drive in this day and age?!
Why are you buying Windows? What kind of morons wrote this up?

PCWorld's attempt #2
With 8GB DDR4, for a total cost of $944
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So... can you do better than PCWorld? Let us know what you think. PC master race!
Read more at PCWorld

 

[x65943]

Who the hell spends $130 on a blu ray drive? What the fuck are you gonna do with a blu-ray drive in this day and age?!
Why are you buying Windows? What kind of morons wrote this up?

The idea was to get the same hardware that is present on the xbone - that's why they chose to include the bluray drive.

 

[Deleted User]

>"they are selling at a loss"

I don't believe they are selling at loss, they have someway of not selling at a loss. It can't be possible

Why did they factor in the OS? Xbox can't run Windows 10, and xbox OS doesn't cost anything. That's like factoring in the monitor

 

[Foxi4]

>"they are selling at a loss"

I don't believe they are selling at loss, they have someway of not selling at a loss. It can't be possible

Why did they factor in the OS? Xbox can't run Windows 10, and xbox OS doesn't cost anything. That's like factoring in the monitor

All Xbox Ones run a Win10 kernel in the background, they have been for a while.

 

[gnmmarechal]

>"they are selling at a loss"

I don't believe they are selling at loss, they have someway of not selling at a loss. It can't be possible

Why did they factor in the OS? Xbox can't run Windows 10, and xbox OS doesn't cost anything. That's like factoring in the monitor

Well, you need an OS to game, and the XO's OS is based on Windows afaik.

 

[mightymuffy]

>"they are selling at a loss"

I don't believe they are selling at loss, they have someway of not selling at a loss. It can't be possible

Why did they factor in the OS? Xbox can't run Windows 10, and xbox OS doesn't cost anything. That's like factoring in the monitor

Oh what was it now, the Wii U or the Wii? Can't remember... either way, it was the first console (whichever one it was) that WASN'T sold at a loss from all 3 companies for years... Like I think I've seen already on here, the PS3 was sold initially at around a loss of $150 per unit. Assuming it is sold at a loss (and don't forget lads, MS won't exactly be taking all $500 of your money here - retailers, etc) then it's not exactly out of the ordinary..

'Tis a good price for that kind of kit in a console anyway: the average joe public would not be able to get a PC at that spec for that kind of price. Factor in the whole closed, set top box thing and it becomes better bang for your buck too.

..But gawd, this has to be one of the most flamebait posts I've seen in yonks, naughty Headmaster!

 

[chartube12]

I seen an interview posted last night, microsoft said they are selling the system at a lost.

 

[BlackWizzard17]

I seen an interview posted last night, microsoft said they are selling the system at a lost.

Link to interview?

 

[Kubas_inko]

that 12 gb of ram is not RAm but GRAM

 

[gnmmarechal]

that 12 gb of ram is not RAm but GRAM

VRAM is still RAM.

 

[Kubas_inko]

VRAM is still RAM.

lol just noticed GRAM xd. yes it is RAM but CPU can't use it -> system can't use it. It's only for GPU (textures and other stuff)

 

[gnmmarechal]

lol just noticed GRAM xd. yes it is RAM but CPU can't use it -> system can't use it. It's only for textures for GPU

You're wrong. The whole Xbox only has those 12GB of GDDR5 to act as both system and graphics RAM.

 

[Kubas_inko]

You're wrong. The whole Xbox only has those 12GB of GDDR5 to act as both system and graphics RAM.

see it now. I apologize. I don't care about Xbox at all.

 

[Dr.Hacknik]

The question shouldn't be "can I," it should be "may I?"

 

[Cha0tic]

I will never understand the people that see the topic header come in here just to say I don't care about Xbox.

 

[gnmmarechal]

I will never understand the people that come here to say "I will never understand the people that see the topic header come in here just to say I don't care about Xbox."