Kodi -- legal or illegal ?

[Bladexdsl]

movies that are still in the cinema get uploaded to exodus so of course that's going to be illegal. it's just torrenting but with streaming instead

 

[spotanjo3]

im sure it would be a breach of the contract terms yes, but there is no way of controlling where you access the content, but i guess your maybe trying the spin that people put when bitching about game piracy.

as long as 1 person is paying then how are they loosing money?

the point is, i pay for a service, then share with three others, thats three people getting access without paying.

if you had a paid for service would you be ok if one person paid you for access and they shared that access with three other people,.... pretty sure you wouldnt because its a loss of income.

Wow.. its illegal, huh ? Still, DMCA and Government say things like that doesn't make sense. Why don't they just allow it and leave us alone ? They are being unfair and greedy. Jeez!

 

[sarkwalvein]

Huh. I thought that streaming was legal but the people who upload the shows are doing illegal things... I don't know much about this though so...

Both are illegal.
Regarding material for which your don't hold rights:
Uploading/Upstreaming is actively prosecuted.
Downloading/Downstreaming is normally ignored, but that doesn't make it legal.

 

[Spider_Man]

Wow.. its illegal, huh ? Still, DMCA and Government say things like that doesn't make sense. Why don't they just allow it and leave us alone ? They are being unfair and greedy. Jeez!

how is it unfair.

lets say you are a producer of a film and you invest your money into it, you want a good return right? i mean its what pays your bills and provides your lively hood right?

if people then dont pay to watch or buy the film you've invested your money in, your not going to get as much return from it are you.

people dont make films and that for nothing you know, its all a business to them and its nothing about greed or so called "corrupt governments wanting control over you" it is end of the day theft.

thing is, if you do it then fair enough, i admit i have kodi and some plugins, but i dont sit there claiming nothing is illegal about it, i know its illegal and i accept if i get caught its my own doing, im not like many of the retards that think its not illegal.

 

[spotanjo3]

how is it unfair.

lets say you are a producer of a film and you invest your money into it, you want a good return right? i mean its what pays your bills and provides your lively hood right?

if people then dont pay to watch or buy the film you've invested your money in, your not going to get as much return from it are you.

people dont make films and that for nothing you know, its all a business to them and its nothing about greed or so called "corrupt governments wanting control over you" it is end of the day theft.

thing is, if you do it then fair enough, i admit i have kodi and some plugins, but i dont sit there claiming nothing is illegal about it, i know its illegal and i accept if i get caught its my own doing, im not like many of the retards that think its not illegal.

Yes, you are right but I would like them to have those things cheaper and not an expensive ones. That's what I called them a greedy and unfair. A free would be nice but it doesn't work that way.

 

[Spider_Man]

Yes, you are right but I would like them to have those things cheaper and not an expensive ones. That's what I called them a greedy and unfair. A free would be nice but it doesn't work that way.

maybe in a sense cheaper as you say, but then again you still have to pay the actors, directors, casting crew, catering, equipment, legal team, marketing team, sound, lighting crew i mean the list is endless.

when someone pitches a show or movie to a studio its given a budget they feel it will get a return off it, so say your a studio director and invest £1million in a movie, would you then sell it at £1 and risk being at a loss?

to put it blunt, services such as shitflix doesnt exactly break the bank does it.

 

[Enovale]

Both are illegal.
Regarding material for which your don't hold rights:
Uploading/Upstreaming is actively prosecuted.
Downloading/Downstreaming is normally ignored, but that doesn't make it legal.

Oh ok, I didn't know that.

 

[jimbo13]

What many of you are referring to is Amazon said it is going to start banning the sell of set top boxes/sticks that allow Kodi/Plugins, except their own Firestick which runs kodi and file sharing apps just fine.

how is it unfair.

lets say you are a producer of a film and you invest your money into it, you want a good return right? i mean its what pays your bills and provides your lively hood right?

if people then dont pay to watch or buy the film you've invested your money in, your not going to get as much return from it are you.

people dont make films and that for nothing you know, its all a business to them and its nothing about greed or so called "corrupt governments wanting control over you" it is end of the day theft.

thing is, if you do it then fair enough, i admit i have kodi and some plugins, but i dont sit there claiming nothing is illegal about it, i know its illegal and i accept if i get caught its my own doing, im not like many of the retards that think its not illegal.

You know what else is illegal? Monopolies, Cartel behavior and price fixing. If you want to lecture someone or laws enforced start with Comcast or Disney.

If media, anti-trust & monopoly regulations were being enforced which they haven't been since the early 80's piracy would be a non-issue.

 

[Spider_Man]

What many of you are referring to is Amazon said it is going to start banning the sell of set top boxes/sticks that allow Kodi/Plugins, except their own Firestick which runs kodi and file sharing apps just fine.





You know what else is illegal? Monopolies, Cartel behavior and price fixing. If you want to lecture someone or laws enforced start with Comcast or Disney.

If media, anti-trust & monopoly regulations were being enforced which they haven't been since the early 80's piracy would be a non-issue.

How is monopoly illegal, and how is it cartel behavior and price fixing?

If you have an idea and make it into a product then you dont want others stealing your idea.

since when did everything in life become free? you pay for what you want.

freeloaders will always try claim how its someone else's fault rather retarded to be honest.

 

[jimbo13]

How is monopoly illegal, and how is it cartel behavior and price fixing?

If you have an idea and make it into a product then you dont want others stealing your idea.

since when did everything in life become free? you pay for what you want.

freeloaders will always try claim how its someone else's fault rather retarded to be honest.

If you had a basic education that had informed you a simple known fact that monopolies are illegal you wouldn't need to resort to calling people retarded free loaders because you would have a point instead of an insult.

 

[nl255]

What many of you are referring to is Amazon said it is going to start banning the sell of set top boxes/sticks that allow Kodi/Plugins, except their own Firestick which runs kodi and file sharing apps just fine.

Are you sure about that? Everything I have seen only says they are going to ban the sale of the boxes that are "fully loaded" with the illegal plugins. Thus, a "stock" Android TV box or even one with a stock Kodi install is perfectly fine. Otherwise they would have to ban almost every Android box since they all support sideloading and most support Google Play.

 

[Spider_Man]

If you had a basic education that had informed you a simple known fact that monopolies are illegal you wouldn't need to resort to calling people retarded free loaders because you would have a point instead of an insult.

yet where are these "monopolies" and "cartels" that you claim as some lame ass defense to pirating.

there is no point when people try claim nothing wrong with piracey, it is illegal end of, people who do it know it is and accept that risk, those that try argue the fact and make excuses are pretty much retarded.

by law you are entitled to protect your product, its your business.

like ive said before if something was your product/business i know 100% you would not be ok with people stealing it while your spending your money to produce it.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Bullshit, there is no monopoly over entertainment.
And again, before the antitrust laws, there were the intellectual property and patent laws.

 

[Jayro]

I don't think TV shows should be illegal to stream, since they first aired for free. Same with Anime, I'll only pay for anime if it's a Blu-ray worth owning.

 

[sarkwalvein]

I don't think TV shows should be illegal to stream, since they first aired for free. Same with Ani e, I'll only pay for anime if it's a Blu-ray worth owning.

They don't air for free.
When they air the producers are paid for ads, because ads companies pay them for the time slot in exchange of the possibility of you watching the ads.
When you stream them the producers don't get the ad money from the ad companies.

PS: Also, who do you think pays all those korean slaves to get a cup of rice or something if they are aired for free?

 

[Jayro]

They don't air for free.
When they air the producers are paid for ads, because ads companies pay them for the time slot in exchange of the possibility of you watching the ads.
When you stream them the producers don't get the ad money from the ad companies.

Yes, and during that initial airing, they got their ad revenue. So I don't feel compelled to keep feeding them long after they've been paid.

 

[Spider_Man]

I don't think TV shows should be illegal to stream, since they first aired for free. Same with Ani e, I'll only pay for anime if it's a Blu-ray worth owning.

of course it should, tv shows are bought by networks which you pay for (or if its not the bbc can then make money from advertising slots), if your not watching in on that network then its lost ratings and ratings are what decide a shows future.

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Yes, and during that initial airing, they got their ad revenue. So I don't feel compelled to keep feeding them long after they've been paid.

that is why most now have catch up, but still just because you miss something, the network still owns the rights to the show and streaming it from say a kodi plugin is illegal because "exodus" do not own the rights to the show.

if you release a movie at cinema but i dont get chance to see it, is that ok for me to illegaly stream it insted?

and if i think your movie is shite, i dont have to buy it, its your fault for making a shit movie (but if i couldnt stream it, i would have had to buy it, which is a lost sale you would have had).... tho most that stream have no intention of paying for it anyways.

i mean ive watched quite a lot of films and never bought them because theres no need if i want to watch it again at a later date i can simply stream it (same with tv shows)

 

[jimbo13]

Bullshit, there is no monopoly over entertainment.
And again, before the antitrust laws, there were the intellectual property and patent laws.

In the United States (think this law may have been recently repealed i'd have to check, but it hasn't been enforced in the last 30 years and should of been) It is illegal to own more than one Channel/News paper in a single market.

Just go look a list of Comcast assets before making ignorant remarks, that's not even including the anti-trust issues with Comcast owning media and trying to prioritize their own content over cable lines which they also have unreasonable control of.

AT&T/Bell systems had far consolidation than modern Media, Mainly Disney/Comcast and was forcibly broke up. Just to get pieced back together.

 

[Spider_Man]

In the United States (think this law may have been recently repealed i'd have to check, but it hasn't been enforced in the last 30 years and should of been) It is illegal to own more than one Channel/News paper in a single market.

Just go look a list of Comcast assets before making ignorant remarks, that's not even including the anti-trust issues with Comcast owning media and trying to prioritize their own content over cable lines which they also have unreasonable control of.

AT&T/Bell systems had far consolidation than modern Media, Mainly Disney/Comcast and was forcibly broke up. Just to get pieced back together.

dude that has utterly fuck all to do with the point of the thread.

also not that i am 100% sure on this, but illegal to own more than one channel/news paper, i do know the publishing industry and a lot of leading publications are owned by a larger chain of publishers, but again has no relevance to your logic to use as a defense to claim streaming illegal content is not illegal.

 

[BIFFTAZ]

Nice little read on the current law situation in the UK. Stream it like hot

https://torrentfreak.com/streaming-pirate-content-isnt-illegal-uk-trading-standards-says-170306/

Basically says that current law is based on having a pirated copy downloaded in your possession, & is basically as illegal as watching a movie/tv show/music ripped from dvd/disc & uploaded to youtube (Even though they dont last long on there). The person commiting the crime in the law's eyes is the person that uploaded it, Not you that watched it.

Also, People saying addons like Exodus & Salts are illegal... They hold no content what so ever... They use scrappers that search the internet & point to links on streaming sites that host the movie/tv show/music content, You select the link & Kodi does the rest. Its like saying Bittorrent/internet browser's/youtube should be illegal because they too can be used to point to pirated content.