Hacking Any CFW that makes GW obsolete yet (N3DS)?

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Congrats?
I don't see how this has anything to do with the thread, GW has had their fair share of fuck ups too,
I really don't care to keep arguing with you, I don't even know what you're on about? You seem to be angry
because I don't use a GW and prefer CIAs? Why do you even care what I use? Enjoy your GW I will
enjoy my CIAs

Have a nice day
>implying i don't have CIAs also

I don't care what you use, just respect the vagina the 3DS scene was birthed from. Perhaps reread my first post?
 

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Why must we argue? The Gateway is simply an $80 convenience card, because you have to admit a .3ds is easier and quicker to manage and load than a .cia. Admittedly, once you install a CIA the benefits of a 3DS file is gone, but it still takes a damn while to load.

Therefore, the argument is, is the ability to not have to wait for a .CIA file to install worth $80 to you?
 
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>implying i don't have CIAs also

I don't care what you use, just respect the vagina the 3DS scene was birthed from.

lol I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by giving my opinion on something besides GW.
Guess GW are not the only ones with a vagina.
 

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lol I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by giving my opinion on something besides GW.
Guess GW are not the only ones with a vagina.
Speaking of ad hominem...

These threads always turn out like this.. :rolleyes:

My favorite is the part where people say they're done and keep coming back to it. Instant classic.
 
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i really wanna try this on my og3ds which is on fw 5.x , will that tut work for the og3ds too ?
No, reiNAND is a new3DS exclusive CFW.

All that cfw stuff is nice and useful for people that didn't invest in a flashcart before all this cfw stuff was possible. My gateway can load 3DS roms, and run the homebrew launcher. I don't need much more. I have a DS lite with slot1 and slot2 carts for NDS and GBA roms.
Personally, as a new3DS and Gateway owner, I'm glad to finally be free of it's shackles. It's such a hassle.

With Gateway

Wanna use unsigned code?
OOT>Gateway Menu>swap to red card>boot Gateway Mode

Oh, you wanna play a legit cart?
Reboot 3DS>OOT>Gateway Menu>swap to red card>boot Classic Mode.

With a CFW
Step 1. Launch CFW

Wanna use unsigned code?
Run unsigned code.

Oh, you wanna play a legit cart?
Insert cart.

Having made the jump to a CFW, I can't imagine going back.
It even comes with a handy DRM device with extra storage. I'm not saying it's better but it's what I use and it works fine. Each cfw has it's strengths and weaknesses.
The ability to effectively double your storage is undoubtedly the one, and only advantage Gateway has over CFWs (for now*).

If you sail the good ship Fuckgamedevslol across The Ocean of Entitlement, then Gateway has a distinct advantage over CFWs.

I however, don't. So for me, the Gateway Red Cart proves to be more of a burden than an advantage. It really comes down to how you use your 3DS.

As others have said, a dongle free CFW is like Super Classic Mode, and that's exactly what I wanted.

*A couple of private CFWs already support Red Cart, so it's only a matter of time before public CFWs follow suit.
 

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No, reiNAND is a new3DS exclusive CFW.


Personally, as a new3DS and Gateway owner, I'm glad to finally be free of it's shackles. It's such a hassle.

With Gateway

Wanna use unsigned code?
OOT>Gateway Menu>swap to red card>boot Gateway Mode

Oh, you wanna play a legit cart?
Reboot 3DS>OOT>Gateway Menu>swap to red card>boot Classic Mode.

With a CFW
Step 1. Launch CFW

Wanna use unsigned code?
Run unsigned code.

Oh, you wanna play a legit cart?
Insert cart.

Having made the jump to a CFW, I can't imagine going back.

The ability to effectively double your storage is undoubtedly the one, and only advantage Gateway has over CFWs (for now*).

If you sail the good ship Fuckgamedevslol across The Ocean of Entitlement, then Gateway has a distinct advantage over CFWs.

I however, don't. So for me, the Gateway Red Cart proves to be more of a burden than an advantage. It really comes down to how you use your 3DS.

As others have said, a dongle free CFW is like Super Classic Mode, and that's exactly what I wanted.

*A couple of private CFWs already support Red Cart, so it's only a matter of time before public CFWs follow suit.
You forgot to mention the part where you can install a ROP loader on your new 3DS which means you no longer need OoT. Also, if you want to play a cart game, you could just insert the game, rip it using the gateway menu (including save file), then play it from the red card. Quite frankly, if you're attempting to play legit cartridges using a gateway, then you defeated the purpose of using a gateway over Reinand
 
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And so at the end of the day,

Pros of CFW:

-Only some require CN, otherwise most others are free.
-Does not require a cart to start it, aside from the CN dependent ones. (Read MSET)
-Can play homebrew and cia games.
-Can dump games and do some technical stuff etc
-Can play retail carts on it. (It's like a combined mode of Classic and GW mode)

Cons of CFW:

-Unable to play the dlc of other region games unless used with NTR's language plugin or have the emunand changed to another region.
-Cannot play .3ds games. (Well of course it can't, it doesn't have a cart after all, well you CAN play .3ds through a Sky3DS anyway...)
-Unable to natively create an emunand. (But can be circumvented with using the GW data file)


In summary, the current gen of CFWs are able to do most of GW's functions, aside from the cons listed. (If there is more of pros and cons I left out do tell me)
As such, it is a viable option, and a good idea to use it if you don't have a GW.

If you do on the other hand, just keep using them until they solve the DLC thingie. Then it's a go.
 

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And so at the end of the day,

Pros of CFW:

-Only some require CN, otherwise most others are free.
-Does not require a cart to start it, aside from the CN dependent ones. (Read MSET)
-Can play homebrew and cia games.
-Can dump games and do some technical stuff etc
-Can play retail carts on it. (It's like a combined mode of Classic and GW mode)

Cons of CFW:

-Unable to play the dlc of other region games unless used with NTR's language plugin or have the emunand changed to another region.
-Cannot play .3ds games. (Well of course it can't, it doesn't have a cart after all, well you CAN play .3ds through a Sky3DS anyway...)
-Unable to natively create an emunand. (But can be circumvented with using the GW data file)


In summary, the current gen of CFWs are able to do most of GW's functions, aside from the cons listed. (If there is more of pros and cons I left out do tell me)
As such, it is a viable option, and a good idea to use it if you don't have a GW.

If you do on the other hand, just keep using them until they solve the DLC thingie. Then it's a go.

I agree with everything, going to bed, goodnight :P
 

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I have a n3DS and a Gateway. Obviously, I had the Gateway long before CFWs came out so I never actually bothered to install a CFW since I can't for the life of me see any compelling reason to, in my situation. If I didn't already have a Gateway, I would get a CFW right away. Do any CFWs for n3DS let you install any GBA rom to play like a .cia file? If there is, then I may be inclined to switch. But at the same time, there's been a lot of headway in getting GBA roms playing decently via an emulator on the homebrew channel.

However! As soon as there's a CFW that will allow me to update my n3DS emunand past 9.5 I'm jumping on it.
 

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Also, if you want to play a cart game, you could just insert the game, rip it using the gateway menu (including save file), then play it from the red card.
Sure, I could do it that way, and if I was a glutton for punishment, who got off on doing things in the most time consuming, convoluted way possible I probably would. But I'm not.

Going through the steps I listed (which I already considered long-winded and time consuming), would actually be much faster than your suggestion;

>reboot>OOT>Gateway Menu>dump game>power down 3DS>remove internal mSD card>interface mSD card with computer>rename and copy .3ds ROM to computer>remove 3DS mSD card>interface Gateway mSD>copy ROM to GW mSD>reunite GW mSD with Gateway>reunite GW with 3DS>power up>OOT>Gateway Menu>swap to red card>boot Gateway Mode>Play game

Not to mention the fact that at some point I'm going to have to use a CFW anyway to get the save from the ROM back onto my legit cart.

So you're seriously suggesting this as a reasonable alternative to simply using a free CFW from the get go? For me its a joke of a suggestion.

Quite frankly, if you're attempting to play legit cartridges using a gateway, then you defeated the purpose of using a gateway over Reinand
Oh, I am using reiNAND. I jumped ship as soon as I learned of its existence.

I initially bought a GW after reading though the GBAtemp wiki, I thought I'd use it to play some Japanese ROMs that were unlikely to see a western release.

It turned out that the wiki was really out of date, and about a week after my GW arrived I discovered Classic Mode offered region free for cartridges, so I didn't need to download ROMs after all.

Until reiNAND came along I was almost exclusively using my Gateway in Classic Mode :)
 
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I have a n3DS and a Gateway. Obviously, I had the Gateway long before CFWs came out so I never actually bothered to install a CFW since I can't for the life of me see any compelling reason to, in my situation. If I didn't already have a Gateway, I would get a CFW right away. Do any CFWs for n3DS let you install any GBA rom to play like a .cia file? If there is, then I may be inclined to switch. But at the same time, there's been a lot of headway in getting GBA roms playing decently via an emulator on the homebrew channel.

However! As soon as there's a CFW that will allow me to update my n3DS emunand past 9.5 I'm jumping on it.
Yes weve been able to play GBA for a good 2-3 months now https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-agb_firm-signature-patcher-gba-rom-converter.390313/
 

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You keep mentioning GBA temp, like everyone else is the problem and not you

you're right your not a fanboy, you're just a moron with the word 'Gateway' 5 times on their every post

Allow me to put on my best David Attenborough-esque british accent for a moment.

"Here we can see the CFW-fanboy in its natural habitat of the 3DS flashcards & CFW section where it spends most of it's days, waiting for its opportunity to pounce upon it's prey of flashcard users.

It creeps into a thread inhabited by hardware-solution users, disgusted that these creatures spent 80(million) dollars on a flashcart, it launches a deadly opinionated attack and labels the other creature a fanboy.

But the hardware-solution user doesn't go down without a fight, it tries it's hardest to convince the CFW-fanboy that it is happy with its purchase, and even has rxTools dual booting beside his GW launcher.

By now, the CFW-fanboy is preparing to make the finishing blow against its prey. All attempts by the flashcard-user of having a intelligent and civil discussion have failed, and feeling threatened the CFW-fanboy launches a personal attack, with devastating insults, taking-out the flashcard-user forever.

It then proceeds to log-off gbatemp and retreats to it's nest. It will sleep easy tonight, knowing that he "taught that hardware-solution user a lesson."
 
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What's with the hostility? This thread has gone South really fast... both Gateway and CFW are good. Not so long ago, we didn't have any viable CFW to really use, so Gateway was the only real homebrew solution, and it still has the advantage of not having to convert your games to play them. Now with more CFW surfacing, a Gateway would be a waste of money right now unless they offered something more, like somehow making a major breakthrough and obtaining the keys to the latest firmware. There's so much needless hostility in this thread, but I think most users would prefer not to spend nearly $100 on a flash card if they can help it, not to say Gateway isn't good in it's own rite. But, Gateway is more user friendly than fully installing something like RxTools, for a fresh noob who hasn't done anything like that before, that is.
 
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Hey by the way, almost forgot to ask this.

I heard from someone that Reinand is able to run out of region dlc without NTR, is that true?
Also, what's the difference between CakesCFW and ReiNand and rxtools?
Still confused over the three.
 

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I knew where this thread was going before i even clicked on the title. Oh, you gbatemp!

Seems as though the cool thing to do on the internet these days is to hate ANY product that costs REAL money to enable hacks/piracy, regardless of innovative features and convenience etc.

Anyone here old enough to remember the SNES, N64 and Game Boy scenes? (The latter, i was born too late) all those were hardware-driven scenes; LikSang.com and Bung Enterprises were knights in shining armour. Even the SuperCard team gets love in the DS scene

Too many people left with emotional baggage after the Gateway bricking fiasco, i think.
Emotional baggage? I think it's more perfectly warranted hostility. All your examples have one thing in common - that was the only way to gain code execution on those consoles. They were required. Gateway was designed for the sole purpose of making money. Once there code got RE'd, they attacked the customers. I respect modchip and flashcart companies. I don't respect blatant DRM schemes.
 
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Hey by the way, almost forgot to ask this.

I heard from someone that Reinand is able to run out of region dlc without NTR, is that true?
Also, what's the difference between CakesCFW and ReiNand and rxtools?
Still confused over the three.

I have Reinand, Reinand works for new3DS and Rxtools for the original 3DS. The RXtool team said that they would
get it working on new 3DS but I don't know what real advantage it would have over Reinand if any. I heard from one of the
devs that it will be able to do everything GW can, but I don't know what he meant exactly. Reinand works great for me with Big Blue Menu, I have no problems whatsoever running different region games. I never used CakesCFW

I was under the impression that if you have the game and the DLC with the same region it would work,
ex. Japanese game with Japanese DLC in an American 3DS with CFW. Right now all DLC I have is for Smash Bros.
but I can confirm later today after I install some Jap DLC.

Hope this helps

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'Actually that's ad quam muliebre genus :rofl2:'

If you're going to insult someone else's intelligence you should try to spell every word correctly in your post...


lol, not saying I have perfect spelling but where do you see an error here?

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