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[Sterling]

Gone Home has no failure state. It's impossible to "lose" or "fail" in the game. I'd say that disqualifies it from being a game. It falls more along the lines of a virtual installation, like Mountain. It's still "art" and a valid medium of expression, but selling it as a "game" strikes me as disingenuous. YMMV, of course.

Oh, I agree. To be honest it might pass as an interactive narrative, but I think the cost does not equal the value gained from playing. I think this whole -interactive art- craze might be trying too hard to be a game.

 

[FAST6191]

Gone Home has no failure state. It's impossible to "lose" or "fail" in the game. I'd say that disqualifies it from being a game. It falls more along the lines of a virtual installation, like Mountain. It's still "art" and a valid medium of expression, but selling it as a "game" strikes me as disingenuous. YMMV, of course.

Were I to try defining games I would probably go for decisions and making them. Failure state could work and if nothing else it is a key component in a lot of games, however I am not sure it is a fundamental one. That said Gone Home felt more like a maze/puzzle than a game in the traditional sense. I might also have to ponder where Myst, 7th Guest and 11th Hour sits in all this.

Equally I might argue I missed out the first time I played it as I missed out a large chunk

Spoiler

Upon discovering hidden passages were a thing I half accidentally/half methodically discovered the under stairs crawl space, missed out the entire kitchen area as a result.

 

[CompassNorth]

edit: yikes i was trash when i was younger huh

 

[vayanui8]

Makes me want to buy games from XSeed more.

 

[Gahars]

Haven't seen this posted yet.
http://kimmyredridinghood.tumblr.com/post/95515382409/xseed-digs-their-transphobic-hole-deeper

For the people who don't know the typical SJW are attacking and calling XSeed transphobic because they used the word "trap" to describe on a guy who pretended to be girl on a message board. A message board based on 2chan called Pitter within the game so you think using the trap in it's native "4chanism" meaning would be okay, right? Nope.

The "Passable Transvestites" card in Cards Against Humanity was considered hate speech by the social justice types, so the threshold for offensiveness is stupidly low.

EDIT: MisandyMermaid, a fucking adult, doxxes a 12 year old kid. Because that's a proper way for an adult to react.

 

[Veho]

A message board based on 2chan called Pitter within the game so you think using the trap in it's native "4chanism" meaning would be okay, right? Nope.

Of course not. Characters in a work represent the author(s), and everything the characters say is of course the author's own opinion. And when two characters have a difference in opinion, the author is both of them. See this?

It is wrong. The writer is all his/her characters. All of them.

 

[Lemmy Koopa]

If it's misogynistic why does my back still hurt
if it's mislandry why are the cloths still dirty

 

[Gahars]

*snip*

This attitude of "characters' attitudes and actions are the author's attitudes and actions" aggravates me to no end. These people seem unable to separate the author from the fiction, to understand the separation between an author and his characters. There are cases where characters act as an author's mouthpiece, sure, but being so unable to distinguish these instances is the mark of a poor reader/viewer/etc.

Tumblr pounced on Neil Gaiman for "transphobia." The guy wrote a compelling, three-dimensional transexual character in one of his works; however, because this character is demeaned and later dies (in a comic where Death is a character, mind you), Neil Gaiman must hate trans people.

It boggles the mind that these people seem so incapable of grasping the concept of fiction. According to their laws, stories should be written without any conflict or disagreement. The characters must all be minorities (lest we "erase" their identities) and everyone must do nothing but praise and worship them, especially whichever character the particular Tumblrina has chosen as her self-insert fantasy.

Fuck, I'm mad.

 

[Foxi4]

Maybe we just need to agree that there's no such thing as "cis" and have the academic field follow suit. The terms they're looking for is "correctly aligned" and "misaligned".

 

[TyBlood13]

Maybe we just need to agree that there's no such thing as "cis" and have the academic field follow suit. The terms they're looking for is "correctly aligned" and "misaligned".

As a "misaligned" person I can roll with that

 

[Foxi4]

As a "misaligned" person I can roll with that

I don't think it should be taken as an insult either - it's just an assessment based on what's the norm or standard. Nobody matches the "standard" with each and every quality, so it's a characteristic like any other.

 

[Gahars]

Police are cracking down on the latest depraved trend sweeping the nation... VIRTUAL RAPE.

 

[Foxi4]

Police are cracking down on the latest depraved trend sweeping the nation... VIRTUAL RAPE.

Modding officially CRIEM OMGAHD.

Related video:


Skipping to 4:00 recommended.

 

[Sterling]

He sounds like a rapidly deflating tire when he laughs.

 

[Gahars]

Made a joke about Anita Sarkeesian on The Verge, huh? You're in the wrong neighborhood, boyo.

Praise be, Beatta Anita!

 

[FAST6191]

I find it amusing that the post signs off with a slang term for sarcastic (though I am not a particular fan of author name based wordplay) and still gets pinged.

However we have previously found out that being flippant, sarcastic or otherwise not armchair raging, badly, against the less than well articulated* injustices of the world is bad, to that end I suppose the poster got what was owed them.

*how those can be poorly articulated and engage in as much gymnastics, albeit of the word definition variety, as happens in these circles is a problem I am going to have to ponder on another occasion.

 

[Veho]

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

Man, for a second there I thought that said Big Cunto instead of Big Canuto and I was gonna be all like "well maybe that's why I dunno".

But then I realized my mistake, and I just That'sDumb.jpg

 

[Gahars]

*snip*

Forgive him, Beatta Anita, he knows not what he does!

Also, a bit of a side note... look, online threats aren't cool and are bad and people shouldn't use them. I think common, sensible people would agree.

That being said, however, people need to stop citing threats as if they were some sort of trump card or validation. You received death threats online? Join the fucking club. The internet provides easy anonymity, so of course people are going to take advantage of it and say all the nasty, sick things they wouldn't be able to get away with anywhere else. Any prominent online personality is going to receive death threats; that's just how it goes. That may not be nice, but it is true. You're not special because some 12 year old in Oklahoma says he's gonna "get ya."

Second, well, Anita, if you wanted to foster higher level discussion and avoid the vitriol, maybe you shouldn't preemptively shut down the comments sections for your videos. Oh, wait, you want the vitriol because it fuels your self-aggrandizing and makes you look the victim. Plus, then you'd have to deal with people calling you out for manipulative editing, outright falsities, and general lack of ethics, and we can't be having that.

 

[Lemmy Koopa]

Forgive him, Beatta Anita, he knows not what he does!

Also, a bit of a side note... look, online threats aren't cool and are bad and people shouldn't use them. I think common, sensible people would agree.

That being said, however, people need to stop citing threats as if they were some sort of trump card or validation. You received death threats online? Join the fucking club. The internet provides easy anonymity, so of course people are going to take advantage of it and say all the nasty, sick things they wouldn't be able to get away with anywhere else. Any prominent online personality is going to receive death threats; that's just how it goes. That may not be nice, but it is true. You're not special because some 12 year old in Oklahoma says he's gonna "get ya."

Second, well, Anita, if you wanted to foster higher level discussion and avoid the vitriol, maybe you shouldn't preemptively shut down the comments sections for your videos. Oh, wait, you want the vitriol because it fuels your self-aggrandizing and makes you look the victim. Plus, then you'd have to deal with people calling you out for manipulative editing, outright falsities, and general lack of ethics, and we can't be having that.

1) 1000th post

2) Agreed