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A subjective opinion is an opinion supported internally, I can subjectively like bananas because I find them tasty, that doesn't mean that you will because you may have a different taste. If my opinion is that the PS1 was a better system because it sold better, it had more games and its controller standard lives on to this day, my opinion is based on tangible, real-life facts and as such is objective.

I don't want to insult your intelligence, but are you sure you understand the definition of 'objective'?
(of a person or their judgement) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts: historians try to be objective and impartial
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/objective

An opinion is a person's belief or how someone feels about something, and therefore, cannot be objective.
 

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I don't want to insult your intelligence, but are you sure you understand the definition of 'objective'?

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/objective

An opinion is a person's belief or how someone feels about something, and therefore, cannot be objective.
Everything judgement you ever make is an opinion of sorts, Subjectivity and Objectivity are two poles on one axis and your Opinion, while expressing your personal belief or idea, is set somewhere on that axis. An opinion or judgement can be more or less objective depending on the degree of fact versus feeling. My understanding of the definition is perfectly fine. ;)

Objective adj.
4. not influenced by personal feelings or prejudice; unbiased: an objective opinion.
5.
a. being the object of perception or thought.​
b. belonging to the object of thought rather than to the thinking subject (opposed to subjective).
~http://www.thefreedictionary.com/objective
 

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I don't want to insult your intelligence, but are you sure you understand the definition of 'objective'?

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/objective

An opinion is a person's belief or how someone feels about something, and therefore, cannot be objective.

Don't mean to insult yours, but there is such a thing as an objective opinion. An opinion is essentially a judgement of something, which can be based on feelings (subjective) or facts (objective). Opinion != personal feelings towards an object.


EDIT: Foxi you piece of :ninja: :angry:
 

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I think the confusion comes from the fact that people think something can either be Subjective or Objective while in fact those terms are gradable. Subjectivity and Objectivity works a lot like Imperfection and Perfection - as we all know, nothing is "Perfect" and as such nothing is "Objective". Objectivity is an idea you can strive to reach, you can be more or less objective, but you can never be "perfectly objective", hence the "Historians try to be objective and impartial" example.

In everyday conversations people simplify this broad field to Subjectivity being based on feeling and Objectivity being based on facts.
 

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I had a huge paragraph typed up, but fine, we'll go with that then. >.;
Don't worray, everything has a grain of bias. :P

Sometimes to be objective you gotta speak up against your feels. I for example had loads of fun with my Failcube, but I have to preach against it in favor of the PS2 because... well, from the perspective of time, the PS2 came on-top. :rofl2:
 
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Don't worray, everything has a grain of bias. :P

Sometimes to be objective you gotta speak up against your feels. I for example had loads of fun with my Failcube but I have to preach against it in favor of the PS2 because... well, from the perspective of time, the PS2 came on-top. :rofl2:

So did I. :tpi:


The EoF reeked of seriousness ;O;
 

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I think the confusion comes from the fact that people think something can either be Subjective or Objective while in fact those terms are gradable. Subjectivity and Objectivity works a lot like Imperfection and Perfection - as we all know, nothing is "Perfect" and as such nothing is "Objective". Objectivity is an idea you can strive to reach, you can be more or less objective, but you can never be "perfectly objective", hence the "Historians try to be objective and impartial" example.

In everyday conversations people simplify this broad field to Subjectivity being based on feeling and Objectivity being based on facts.

You are the only I person I know who can be perfectly objective without your emotions getting in the way.
 

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Then suddenly the console wars turned into the language wars.
Mostly because I'm a lazy butt and I don't feel like making another comic despite having ready storylines. ;O;
You are the only I person I know who can be perfectly objective without your emotions getting in the way.
Not sure if sarcasm or praise... thanks? :rofl2:
 
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