Yeah, that's generally how free speech works.Liberals and leftists get free rein on this site to say whatever they want, and everyone loves it.
Yeah, that's generally how free speech works.Liberals and leftists get free rein on this site to say whatever they want, and everyone loves it.
Not when the same courtesy is not extended to the other side. That is what we call "bias".Yeah, that's generally how free speech works.
What is not allowed here, seriously?Not when the same courtesy is not extended to the other side. That is what we call "bias".
Not when the same courtesy is not extended to the other side. That is what we call "bias".
Anyone who doesn't follow the same thought patterns as the local loudmouths are branded as conservative by the same loudmouths. It's only like 4 people.I have been a lurker longer than I have had an account. Conservatives are not well-liked here, and receive slightly different treatment.
Would you disagree?
By the staff? Yeah, I do, just did above.I have been a lurker longer than I have had an account. Conservatives are not well-liked here, and receive slightly different treatment.
Would you disagree?
While I can appreciate your interest and involvement with American politics, if you don't actually live here and have to deal with this every single day, you don't truly have a real perspective on the matter. You are relying on anecdotal evidence for literally everything about your point of view, not having a bit of personal relativity to it.By the staff? Yeah, I do, just did above.
By the user base? Of course they are, the whole modern consevativism notion goes from against what people want to be and their actual personal freedoms to representing an obstacle to what could improve their lives, from healthcare to laboral rights. It lives and thrives by scapegoating everything to either minorities, dissidents or inconsequential issues. The great majority of people isn't a modern conservative, even so more when you get out of the US bubble of a two party only system.
While I can appreciate your interest and involvement with American politics, if you don't actually live here and have to deal with this every single day, you don't truly have a real perspective on the matter. You are relying on anecdotal evidence for literally everything about your point of view, not having a bit of personal relativity to it.
When you actually see it, in real life, it's a different story. It's perfectly acceptable, for, say, a trans-identifying man who thinks he is a woman, to assault someone for not using his preferred pronouns, and if anyone says boo, THEY are the bad guy.
It's completely wrong for a Good Samaritan to prevent a man who is threatening people with violence on a subway to step in and neutralize the threat without being accused of racism.
Unless you live here, you are going off of news stories and what you never actually experienced. It is impossible for me to believe that you have the level of relativity to actually understand any of this. Likewise, I would not pretend to understand the culture or the social norms in Portugal, beyond what little I have read online. I don't think I know everything just because my Google works.
But, I appreciate your concern.
I realize that I am talking to a fanatic, and there is nothing I can say that is going to convince you that you are DEFINITELY not better than me or superior to me in any way. I refuse to validate you, recognizing your bias.-Snip-
"I feel important and I want to talk down to you even though I don't live in your country and have no clue what I am talking about. I am just parroting things I read on the news and I really want you to feel like I am special and unique and super smart about things and stuff."
No, you refuse to discuss, that's you whole point. You started with an ad hominem fallacy against me not to acknowledge what I said and now you're throwing a victim card somehow, absolutely ridiculous.I realize that I am talking to a fanatic, and there is nothing I can say that is going to convince you that you are DEFINITELY not better than me or superior to me in any way. I refuse to validate you, recognizing your bias.
I am not even going to engage you. Shoo. Off with you. Go fight with someone else. You are not worth my attention.
No, I did not use ad hominem. I directly stated that since you live in Portugal, and have never been a resident of the United States (which you haven't), you cannot truly relate to American politics. You don't LIVE here. You are a spectator. You are a couch coach. It's literally the same thing as reading a book and then arguing about what the characters in it should have done.No, you refuse to discuss, that's you whole point. You started with an ad hominem fallacy against me not to acknowledge what I said and now you're throwing a victim card somehow, absolutely ridiculous.
Yes I understand, you are attacking me to invalidate what I say instead of my argument, that's *ad hominem* by definition. You also procede ignoring app the rest I said.No, I did not use ad hominem. I directly stated that since you live in Portugal, and have never been a resident of the United States (which you haven't), you cannot truly relate to American politics. You don't LIVE here. You are a spectator. You are a couch coach. It's literally the same thing as reading a book and then arguing about what the characters in it should have done.
Do you understand what I am saying? You can read about the Pacific Ocean, but if you have never touched the beach in real life, you can never actually relate.
Do. You. Understand?
Tell me what the Sistine Chapel smells like, Will Hunting.
No. Ad hominem is simply a personal attack. It is not an insult to state the FACT that you, NOT being an American citizen, can only relate to American culture, politics and day-to-day life through what you read on the internet and hear from other people.Yes I understand, you are attacking me to invalidate what I say instead of my argument, that's *ad hominem* by definition.
An extra note btw: you're the one who started restricting the scope of this thread to the US btw, all I said is that outside the US modern conservativism is even less popular. And believe it or not, there are users here from app around the world.
No. Ad hominem is simply a personal attack. It is not an insult to state the FACT that you, NOT being an American citizen, can only relate to American culture, politics and day-to-day life through what you read on the internet and hear from other people.
Which is... say it with me... ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE. Which amounts to nothing. You are a parrot, not an eagle.