Resenting GBAtemp

Needless to say, the B/W ROM was dumped today. As usual, I'm slightly dissapointed at the dumpers; it would've made more sense to dump it DURING the release and not before, regardless of the demand, right? I mean they should've given Nintendo a chance to release the game properly.
Let me rephrase: What I mean to say is that I'm dissapointed slightly because piracy (ie dumping) never really is great. But I'm also surprised that it happened so early.
Now, because of this dump (read: synonym to sh*t) we have an anti-piracy to deal with on the ROM.
And this means a few days of a highly embarrassing 11-22 year olds coming in to ask "I CAN HASSED fix fer r4-DSi-3xl-DS2-comp.w/YSmenu-Tri-Boot-m3-g6-a4-paper-printer-plus-gigatron?". This seems to happen every year, and while this attracts new users to GBAtemp, it brings a bigger shitload rather than a useful amount of users. Just take a look at all the one time posters that are mostly regarding AP fixes!

This has gone on in my head today, and I realized that this is probably one of the few reasons gamers who frequent GBAtemp resent the forums. It erodes all useful posts away, and users have been for quite sometime been saying "Hey, let's all work together and build up some preventative measure towards this shitstorm!". Now I know a few people will say EoF Bunker will solve that. But forum migration is not the key; and neither is a forum lockdown.

Rather than limiting the service of GBAtemp, I've been proposing for a bit to actually make a Pokémon subforum in the NDS discussion, because one thread about it in the NDS discussions will not be enough. Rather than not letting anyone in, let's let everyone talk/whine/complain separately from all other boards.

I'm not going to blame any moderators or admins or supervisors, because I respect their way to run the board and allow me to use it to talk. However, the way it's gonna be this next week on GBAtemp, I don't see how it's gonna make me want to keep posting here, really.

Just some thoughts.
/Butthurt rant

Other news regarding actually important stuff (in my liefs):

- Haircut. For 40 dollars. Yikes.... But I look great!
- Spring break! Couldn't have come any sooner!!!
- Birthday tomorrow. I'm getting a surprise gift from my brother tomorrow... I hope I have a good day, cause I feel old just because I'm turning 16 :(
- Minecraft! I'm going to try to open up a server soon! If I cannot, then I will see to it that my school opens one up :P
- Pokémon Preordered last week. Confirmed my order today. Getting it on Friday. Going to attempt to dump it after downgrading my internet security to WEP. THEN I'll wait patiently and silently for an AP patch.
- I'mma probably order a DSTWO this week if I have money over. Friday's gonna be a busy day, so we'll see if I'll have time.

...Life's pretty good so far, aside from moping over Pokénoobs
'Till next time,

ACE!

Comments

Urza
How could the dump have possibly caused Nintendo to add AP?

Nintendo doesn't have a fucking time machine.
 
Ikki
The Temp will always be a clusterfuck when new releases appear. You have to live with it.
 
thedicemaster
you're talking nonsense.
the only way dumpers could've prevented AP on pokemon B/W is if nobody ever in the whole life of the DS dumped a game.
the AP is there, regardless of whether it was dumped today, last week, or a year from now.
 
Ace
[quote name='L-Lawliet' post='3490131' date='Mar 2 2011, 10:43 PM']The AP would be on it regardless.[/quote]
Of course it is. They've learnt from their past.
 
Pendor
[quote name='Urza' post='3490126' date='Mar 2 2011, 06:41 PM']Nintendo doesn't have a fucking time machine.[/quote]
Bullshit, I say.

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B
Dude, the time of them dumping the game would've made no difference, there was always going to be AP, especially on a massive game like pokemon.
 
twiztidsinz
[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490117' date='Mar 2 2011, 05:39 PM']Now, because of this dump (read: synonym to sh*t) we have an anti-piracy on the ROM.[/quote]Seriously?
BECAUSE it was dumped there is now MAGICALLY Anti-piracy on it?

[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490117' date='Mar 2 2011, 05:39 PM']And this means a few days of a highly embarrassing 11-22 year olds coming in to ask "I CAN HASSED fix fer r4-DSi-3xl-DS2-comp.w/YSmenu-Tri-Boot-m3-g6-a4-paper-printer-plus-gigatron?".[/quote]Because this wouldn't have happened if the game was released first?

[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490117' date='Mar 2 2011, 05:39 PM']This seems to happen every year, and while this attracts new users to GBAtemp, it brings a bigger shitload rather than a useful amount of users. Just take a look at all the one time posters that are mostly regarding AP fixes![/quote]Then why QQ over it?

[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490117' date='Mar 2 2011, 05:39 PM']Other news regarding actually important stuff:

- Haircut. For 40 dollars. Yikes.... But I look great!
- Spring break! Couldn't have come any sooner!!!
- Birthday tomorrow. I'm getting a surprise gift from my brother tomorrow... I hope I have a good day, cause I feel old just because I'm turning 16 :(
- Minecraft! I'm going to try to open up a server soon! If I cannot, then I will see to it that my school opens one up :P
- Pokémon Preordered last week. Confirmed my order today. Getting it on Friday. Going to attempt to dump it after downgrading my internet security to WEP. THEN I'll wait patiently and silently for an AP patch.
- I'mma probably order a DSTWO this week if I have money over. Friday's gonna be a busy day, so we'll see if I'll have time.[/quote]Clearly those are all ESSENTIAL to the GBAtemp as a whole. [/sarcasm]
Sorry, but bullshit is bullshit. Just because someone likes it doesn't mean it's not bullshit.
Those are all relegated to the Blogs because they're not really of any value to the forums, but a good way to allow users to express themselves.
 
Livin in a box
Are you, like, for real real?

So you're saying that no games should be dumped so there would never be any AP?
 
Ace
[quote name='Livin in a box' post='3490156' date='Mar 2 2011, 10:51 PM']Are you, like, for real real?

So you're saying that no games should be dumped so there would never be any AP?[/quote]
I'm saying fixes should be used for legitimately dumped ROMS, not for a torrent that'll get leeched in some backend tracker. If I started a poll asking how many people would use a patch on a legit dump, you'd be surprised at the amount of people saying they'd use it on a pirated rom.
 
G
[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490166' date='Mar 2 2011, 11:54 PM']I'm saying fixes should be used for legitimately dumped ROMS, not for a torrent that'll get leeched in some backend tracker. If I started a poll asking how many people would use a patch on a legit dump, you'd be surprised at the amount of people saying they'd use it on a pirated rom.[/quote]
define: legitimately dumped ROMS
A rom file is a rom file regardless of what you say. The scene just packs the rom properly. If a rom dumped by some person who isn't part of the scene gets a fix, so be it.
 
_Chaz_
[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490166' date='Mar 2 2011, 04:54 PM'][quote name='Livin in a box' post='3490156' date='Mar 2 2011, 10:51 PM']Are you, like, for real real?

So you're saying that no games should be dumped so there would never be any AP?[/quote]
I'm saying fixes should be used for legitimately dumped ROMS, not for a torrent that'll get leeched in some backend tracker. If I started a poll asking how many people would use a patch on a legit dump, you'd be surprised at the amount of people saying they'd use it on a pirated rom.
[/quote]
No, no one would be surprised. It'd be like 87.5% of voters.

If you're against piracy than don't pirate.
If game developers have done things to prevent piracy and failed, what makes you think you'll succeed?
Don't try to stop people from doing it when you have absolutely no power. You'll just end up looking like a fool.
 
Urza
[quote name='Ace Faith' post='3490166' date='Mar 2 2011, 01:54 PM'][quote name='Livin in a box' post='3490156' date='Mar 2 2011, 10:51 PM']Are you, like, for real real?

So you're saying that no games should be dumped so there would never be any AP?[/quote]
I'm saying fixes should be used for legitimately dumped ROMS, not for a torrent that'll get leeched in some backend tracker. If I started a poll asking how many people would use a patch on a legit dump, you'd be surprised at the amount of people saying they'd use it on a pirated rom.
[/quote]
Why would anyone be surprised?

Would you rather:
A) Have more money
B) Have less money

Since there is no downside to piracy for the user.
 
Splych
40 dollars for a haircut o_e >?
what else could they have done other than cutting and washing your hair ?
 
Guild McCommunist
[quote name='Urza' post='3490126' date='Mar 2 2011, 10:41 PM']How could the dump have possibly caused Nintendo to add AP?

Nintendo doesn't have a fucking time machine.[/quote]

That's actually the concept behind Nintendo's new handheld, the 4DS.

But I haven't even opened a Pokemon Black/White dump thread since the Japanese release. Don't bother with it, get the game, make sure it works, and play it. Mods like target practice, leave it to them.
 
ProtoKun7
Some of our better known members arrive during high-traffic releases. You have to take the bad with the good, and there are plenty of staff to discipline the bad.
 
monkat
[quote name='Urza' post='3490196' date='Mar 2 2011, 06:00 PM']Would you rather:
A) Have more money
B) Have less money

Since there is no downside to piracy for the user.[/quote]

Yep. Pretty much that simple.

Customers at my store think the exact same way: they want to have more money, so they don't buy things. They also don't obtain them illegally. They just don't buy it.

There is no direct downside fo the majority of consumers to stealing*. That's why he have morale fiber. We can think beyond what is directly in front of us.

*Piracy is theft. That simple. No, you're not actually taking the cartridge off of the shelf, butthurt losers, but I'm not talking about stealing from the retailer. I'm talking about stealing from the artists. There's a reason why you can't take pictures in most museums.
 
Urza
[quote name='monkat' post='3490621' date='Mar 2 2011, 04:41 PM'][quote name='Urza' post='3490196' date='Mar 2 2011, 06:00 PM']Would you rather:
A) Have more money
B) Have less money

Since there is no downside to piracy for the user.[/quote]

Yep. Pretty much that simple.

Customers at my store think the exact same way: they want to have more money, so they don't buy things. They also don't obtain them illegally. They just don't buy it.[/quote]
The difference being that the chance of negative repercussions for pirating NDS ROMs is non-existent, whereas in a retail store the change of getting caught ranges from small to fairly high.
 
P
[quote name='monkat' post='3490621' date='Mar 2 2011, 07:41 PM'][quote name='Urza' post='3490196' date='Mar 2 2011, 06:00 PM']Would you rather:
A) Have more money
B) Have less money

Since there is no downside to piracy for the user.[/quote]

Yep. Pretty much that simple.

Customers at my store think the exact same way: they want to have more money, so they don't buy things. They also don't obtain them illegally. They just don't buy it.

There is no direct downside fo the majority of consumers to stealing*. That's why he have morale fiber. We can think beyond what is directly in front of us.

*Piracy is theft. That simple. No, you're not actually taking the cartridge off of the shelf, butthurt losers, but I'm not talking about stealing from the retailer. I'm talking about stealing from the artists. There's a reason why you can't take pictures in most museums.
[/quote]

Yes, but going with your analogy you can take a HD picture of the picture and with a little photoshop it'll look like the exact same thing, but does taking a picture of the picture(sounds weird) of it and photoshopping it for your friends to see really stealing it? Or just showing them how good it is so that they can possibly purchase it from the museum (if its cheap and not like 3000$) cause otherwise if it was too expensive they weren't gonna buy it to begin with or if it was horrible picture they would just delete it and move on with life, so I don't see anyone losing anything.
 

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