CD Video – What an obscure thing (about 850KB pictures)

A little known format, pretty much a failed one, is the CD Video → [Wikipedia article]. I always wanted to have one and suddenly had the opportunity to get one.

Don't mistake CD Video with the widely known digital Video CD (MPEG-1 based) format. Everybody can still create compatible video files nowadays with a command like this:
ffmpeg -i SomeVideo.mp4 -target ntsc-vcd SomeVideo.mpg
and create some VCD image. I'd recommend VCDEasy v1.1.5.2 for this task (last freeware version). Afterwards any burning application should be able to write this to CD-R(W) and the result – in poor video quality – should play on virtually any standalone DVD player. Searching information about CDV online results in tons of stuff about VCD.

But… back to the topic. I'm talking about a different format. It is analog video storage, LaserDisc. Opposed to the huge LaserDisc resembling vinyl records from their size, CD Video has the standard 12cm diameter. For the most users nowadays it is a standard CDDA (Compact Disc Digital Audio) and will be detected as such in PC drives as well as in normal CD players.
CDV4.jpg CDV3.jpg
(Ignore the smudges and strange lines in the pictures. There is nothing wrong with the disc: My scanner would need a cleaning on the inner side of the glass)
The inner ring is normal CDDA (up to 20 minutes) and the outer part is LaserDisc video (up to 5 minutes). Dedicated CDV players are rare, but "newer" LaserDisc players can also play them just fine. The video still works. Due to its high age (produced 1988) and no error correction in the analog part, the video quality isn't perfect anymore – albeit a lot better than a VHS tape that old. For copyright reasons I can sadly (but obviously) not share the video – as much as I'd like to present it to show the quality and defects.

Cover image:
CDV1.jpg

Backside with instructions and information:
CDV2.jpg


I know of no direct method of backing this thing up (dumping the video part). And I know of no method of producing such a thing (burning a copy). Computer drives don't allow arbitrary data to be written and will not allow access to the RAW analog signal. Best I can do is connecting the LaserDisc Player to a DVD recorder to get a digital version.

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Don't mistake CD Video with the widely known digital Video CD (MPEG-1 based) format.
I was just about to say exactly that...but then I read your post again in more detail and noticed it's something else. :rofl2:

Before DVD players were even a thing a had a Philips CD-I player that could play VideoCD. I have collected many movies on it and indeed the quality is awful for today's standards. But when watched on a CRT I think it was "ok-ish" enough to make it watchable. The biggest downside of a movie on a CD was having to swap discs in the middle of the movie since it was only 60-70 minutes on a single disc. And I also "made my own" and burned them to play on CD-I players. Still have most of them in storage.

I do wonder if the CD-I player would be able to play this CD Video format. Since it's both from Philips it might.

The only thing I have sold form my CD-I collection was Zelda's adventure! An awfully bad game that only collectors really want. Got a decent price for it! About 4 times as much as I paid for it when new! :rofl2:

EDIT: Did some research...and nope! CD-I Can't play these discs as far as I could find. They really are more compatible with LaserDisc. I did find this cool video explaining how the audio and video are actually stored on the disk:

And a nice review from Techmoan

Judging from these video's I would say only a custom firmware CD-Player/CD-Burner might be able to get to the raw digital/analog data on the disc.
 
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I do wonder if the CD-I player would be able to play this CD Video format. Since it's both from Philips it might.
They have nothing in common. I can try it, but I doubt it will work. Probably just the standard audio part will play.

The biggest downside of a movie on a CD was having to swap discs in the middle of the movie since it was only 60-70 minutes on a single disc.
Standard VCD is designed to run at 1x – just like CDDA. A VCD according to the standard has constant bitrate CBR 1150KBit/s MPEG-1 video and 224KBit/s audio MPEG audio layer 2.
Many VCD players, especially DVD players are very lenient in this regard and will happily play VBR video and reduced audio quality. The loss on average movies when lowering the data rate using VBR to the point that a normal 90min movie fits on 80min/700MB CD-R compared to CBR 1150 is negligible.
That does – however nothing in regard of the awful resolution 352*288 (PAL) 352*240 (NTSC) and suboptimal compression of MPEG-1.

The SVCD on the other hand is surprisingly good, especially using source material with moderate movement. I tried pushing the limits by burning 1100MB of MPEG-2 to a single 90min/800MB CD-R containing the full relatively short movie "Snoopy Come Home". The result was not much worse than my original DVD. Unfortunately the DVD players crash when reaching the magical BCD address 99:59.74 effectively limiting SVCD to 1000MB. PC drives can read it fine.
 
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First - No,CD-i and CD Video are completely different Formats.
So a Philips CD-i can not play this CD Video - Video CDs only with an additional Hardware.😉
By the Way there were 3 Formats:
CDV,CD-V and CD+V

I am always impressed,on which Fleamarkets our Sinchen finds these "weird Things".🤣
So I must think,Sinchen has a really great Life and time when she goes to such Markets.

Thank you for sharing your Findings with us.❤️👍
 

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