Woman fined $1.92 million for sharing 24 songs!?

[Tokiopop]

Who hasn't illegally obtained a few songs for free?

 

[VmprHntrD]

I can't remember the details on the original case, but did she even exactly set this up or was it someone else who was using her login. I really can't remember.

Either way the original court case was for a lot less but turned over due to so-called messup of giving the jury instructions and the new one slaps this on the lady who will never probably earn that in her life time and it's disgusting. The total against her as far as the laws of this land go at the constitutional level I'd dare call illegal as there are clauses against unfair bail, judgement, and so on out of someones means.

She'll just end up heading into bankruptcy and not paying a goddamn thing (or little of it) to those thieves at the RIAA.


OH and pinpong had it 1/2 right. It wasn't paying 3-5000 dollars total, it was 3-5000 dollars A PIECE for each of the 24 tunes. Sure hell of a lot less than nearly 2million but even that smaller total was beyond her means so she fought it and got roasted.

 

[Tokiopop]

I bet it was her kids

 

[qlum]

this is not because she downloaded the songs read the whole article

In the latest trial, a federal jury in Minneapolis ruled that she must pay $1.92 million for willful infringement of the recording industry's copyrights by posting the music on the file-sharing site Kazaa.

 

[SoLuckys]

thats how they pay the government people, with taxes and the fines of pour citizens but 1.92million $ is way hell to much

 

[Wintrale]

Who hasn't illegally obtained a few songs for free?

Jack Thompson?

 

[Law]

Who hasn't illegally obtained a few songs for free?

Jack Thompson?

Jack Thompson probably pirates violent videogames because he doesn't want to be seen in public buying them.

I bet he's downloaded some violent music too.

 

[Masterchamber]

another hobo.
but wtf? 1.92mil is way 2 much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[benjaminlibl]

This is ridiculous.

I don't understand a lot about law, so.. I wish someone would explain to me how these fines work. It seems the court always makes the amount insanely high, and then you appeal to get it lower. Why don't they just set a reasonable amount and make it unappealable?

 

[VmprHntrD]

Good question. That has always thrown me off a bit too.

Here's a tasty nugget I remembered from when I did a BA in Poly Sci from my Constitutional Law course.

US Constitution Article 8 - Ratified 12/15/1791

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

You can follow to the wiki link for the details. But basically it says what it says in the quote above word for word. Essentially looking at the financial viability of the loser in court, the courts can not stiff someone with overkill bail they can't afford, nor can the stiff someone with a fine so great they can't dig themselves out from under it.

This woman has nearly a 2M fine slapped on her, and she's a (if I remember right) a single mother with a part time job who barely can make ends meet. Does that dismiss her from doing what she did...hell no. But, given the facts, and her educational background, burdens (low pay and kids, bills, etc) she'll likely never make 2M in her lifetime. Odds are the settlement will be grossly reduced in the appeal because this stupid settlement grossly breaches the 8th amendment to the US Constitution.

 

[benjaminlibl]

Ah ok, pretty interesting stuff. Thanks for the link.

 

[emupaul]

boycott riaa and mpaa, you gotta stop them at their roots and the thier pocket book. pirate the hell out of there shitty content and dont buy there shitty music.

keep up to date....information is power.
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/

 

[silent sniper]

thats why i pirate indie label music (which in nearly all cases is superior anyways

).

and as soon as i get a job, i'll buy that music.


fuck the record companies.

 

[Searinox]

My thoughts: there exist filesharing organizations who WILL PAY for your fines or will pay for your lawyers if you wish to counter the charge. Ppl should contact them.

 

[juggernaut911]

My thoughts: there exist filesharing organizations who WILL PAY for your fines or will pay for your lawyers if you wish to counter the charge. Ppl should contact them.

Who?

all I can say is Viva la piratería

 

[Nonuser]

how that sucks. and it's sad that they're using this woman as a scapegoat of sorts

 

[Sanderino]

Yeah I heard that.. Really sad if you ask me. Her life is ruined now, all of her life she needs to work to repay that company. That's really really sad..

 

[worlok375]

Yeah I heard that.. Really sad if you ask me. Her life is ruined now, all of her life she needs to work to repay that company. That's really really sad..

Even I a teen future attorney could get THAT overthrown seriously, that's crap I think we need to get the ruling overturned and then have the record companies fined at least one or two million for wasting the courts time.

 

[DS Rox!]

LOL WOW holy shit thats crazy..man my parents would'a wuped my ass if i got that fine LOOLOL
poor woman :/ didnt need to be 1.92 million..thats just messed.

 

[jaxxster]

Take this with a pinch of salt...This story has got to be fake. I wouldnt put it past record companies to make shit like this up and spread it just as a scare tatic.