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How to play your GameCube games from SD or USB using DIOS-MIOS (Lite)

Clarification:
DML ONLY works from SD Card/SDHC Card, nothing else, no USB. There won't be a USB version someday.
So Yeah, this "Clarification" is incorrect, crediar was able to do it :D


What you'll need:
  • IF YOU WANT TO PLAY FROM SD
  • The Latest DIOS-MIOS (Lite) package from here (older versions here).
  • DML WAD Creator (for older versions)
  • IF YOU WANT TO PLAY FROM USB
  • FOR DML and DIOS-MIOS
  • GameCube ISO Compress, fstfix, DiscEX or GCReEX (your choice, read below first and decide what you want to use)
  • A WAD Manager (for example WAD Manager 1.7)
  • A SD Card or a USB Device (D'OH!)
  • Gamecube Controller and Memory Card
How to:
  1. If you have downloaded the newer version go to step 6, if you picked the older ones follow this.
  2. Extract the DML package in a folder with the same name as the package (for example DMLr13 for DMLr13.zip). If there is just a iosmodule.elf of the latest DML available then copy it into a new DML folder and rename it to DML.elf.
  3. If you already have a RVL-mios-v10.wad, copy it into the DML folder. Then the creator don't need to download the file.
  4. Extract the DML WAD Creator into the DML folder. Then run the "create_wad.bat" and type "DML" to create the DML wad, if you don't have the RVL-mios-v10.wad it will be downloaded.
  5. If the DML WAD Creator asks you which version you want to build type it in like '13' for DMLr13.
  6. Now let's convert some gamecube games! If you downloaded the new DML versions or DIOS-MIOS just start reading here.
  7. You'll need the gamecube games in iso or gcm format.
  8. If you want to use DiscEX and downloaded the older DML versions, the DiscEX files needs to be in the same folder as the DML WAD creator. Just open the WAD Creator, type "C" to enter the convert menu, drag and drop the game into it and say if you want to compress it or not. If you use the newer DML versions or DIOS-MIOS, open up a command prompt and enter "DiscEX -c gamename.iso" if you want compression, replace "gamename" with the name of your iso file. If you dont want compression just drag and drop the iso file into the DiscEX.exe. Mostly compression will work fine, some games need to stay uncompressed, see here.
  9. You can also use Gamecube ISO Compressor for the job, easiest way is there to just drag and drop your ISO file into the Compressor exe file. You can also just double click the exe file to see which options you can also use to compress the ISO files, they are more modes in it.
  10. If you have downloaded the new DML versions, you can also use GCReEx, there you can use "GCReEx.exe -x game.iso", this will create no new ISO file but a folder which contains the extracted files, this way saves most space on the sd card.
  11. There is also the possiblity to use fstfix instead to compress the games, use it like "fstfix game.iso" or "fstfix game.iso t" and drag and drop the resulting new iso in DiscEX. DiscEX will may stop at a certain percentage to copy the game, it will may also say the game is underdumped/overdumped. Both things come because the image haven't got the orignal size anymore, so you can ignore these messages.
  12. After using one of the above ways to convert your games, copy the newly created folder of the tool to sd:/games if you want to play from SD and to usb:/games if you want to play from USB.
On your Wii:
  1. Install the DML/DIOS-MIOS WAD with a WAD Manager, this will overwrite the current MIOS/cMIOS. Retail gamecube discs will still work since DMLr19. If you had a cMIOS installed before to play disc backups it wont be possible anymore until you re-install the cMIOS which will overwrite DML.
  2. You can play the games either with DIOS-MIOS Booter, NeoGamma, postLoader4, Wiiflow, USB Loader GX or Configurable USB Loader. Make sure you have a disc inserted, otherwise your Wii will simply reset if you try to play a game.
  3. The easiest one is DIOS-MIOS Booter, it works with all DML and DIOS-MIOS versions, just start it, select the game you want, set new options with the B button if you want, and launch the game.
  4. To boot games using Wiiflow switch the coverflow mode to the gameube coverflow mode by pressing the icon down-right near the home icon a few times until you see the games. You can also download covers for them in the settings, it's the gear icon down-left. Wiiflow also supports all DML and DIOS-MIOS versions with all options.
  5. To boot games using postLoader just press home to enter the menu, select "Switch to Game mode". In game mode just press up on the wiimote to enter the DML menu or press home, select "Game options" and then "Show DML menu". Then select the game you want to play.
  6. For USB Loader GX you just need to go to the display icon and select display gamecube games too, then you can set options in the menu and play them.
  7. In Configurable USB Loader they are just displayed together with the other wii games, there you can also set the options and launch them.
  8. The other ways described now are currently not optimized for the new DML versions, doesnt work with DIOS-MIOS and my not work properly.
  9. To boot games using NeoGamma go down to "Load Games from: " and select "Load GC Games via DML". Then go up and press A to search games. Select the game you want to play and press A to start it. NeoGamma doesnt have options to set for DML because its made for old DML versions.
  10. If you want to remove DML/DIOS-MIOS again either reinstall a cMIOS or the RVL-mios-v10.wad. If DML doesn't work for you make sure you have a clean BC, to get it run the "create_wad.bat" in the DML wad creator package again and type "BC". Then just install the RVL-BC-v6.wad on your wii and try it again.
Recommendations:
  • Format your SD Card to FAT16/FAT32 with 64KB cluster size to increase game speed
  • If you want to use DIOS-MIOS format it to FAT32 with 32KB cluster size, also make the FAT32 the first one, primary and active
  • If you want to use DML r21 I suggest the debug version since the regular version got small problems. Delete the DML.elf, rename the DMLdebug.elf to DML.elf and then create a new wad with it.
  • If you have a problem you can try to rename/delete the "saves" folder on your sd card to everything you want, that can may fix it.
  • Crediar created a small FAQ here that might help you as well with some general questions.
If you want to know game compatility check out the compatility list here:
http://wiki.gbatemp....patibility_List
http://crediar.no-ip.com/gc/
Don't forget to add the games you play to the list if they are missing ;)

That's it! If you have questions just ask here. Have fun playing your gamecube games from SD! :)
 

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What beta of Neogamma works with DML and how? Did everything with DMLr19 and it still boot my retail ZeldaWW disk. I'm usin NG b9r58 and component cables, installed wad in real NAND (don't know how to emuNAND it), 4.1U SM.
 

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What beta of Neogamma works with DML and how? Did everything with DMLr19 and it still boot my retail ZeldaWW disk. I'm usin NG b9r58 and component cables, installed wad in real NAND (don't know how to emuNAND it), 4.1U SM.
You need to change neogammas game mode, just go one option down and select launch games from DML or however it was called :P BTW if you wanna play pal games you'll get a problem with neogamma, then you should use postloader.
 

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Oh sorry, i was in NG R9b52, b58 don't even exists. And yeah, got it to work with Megaman X Command Mission, it runs in Neogamma, so it must be the USA one. Intro FMV, cutscenes, loading screens annd gameplay itself lags a lot'. maybe audio streaming?
Did fstfix mmxcm.iso t and discex -c mmxcm-fstfix.iso, should i try something else?
 

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No, sounds like it just lags for you that can be normal in some games see compatility list.
 

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I'm going to repost my question/issue from the DML thread here, as it kinda got by unnoticed. But it's somewhat important, as I'm not sure what version I'm actually using:

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Hmm...here's a weird thing...

First thing to note: I'm using neek2o. I have more than one nand, but I use one as "main nand". Also, before I figured out you need to install cMIOS to the real NAND, I installed one (rev12) to my neek main nand (it's still there because I'm lazy like that). Since then, I update the cMIOS revisions on my real nand and all was fine (oh, I'm using postloader, in case it's important).

Now...I just installed r21, and after a few tests (Kirby air ride & Luigi's mansion still lock up) my neek2o configuration got a little messed up and used another nand instead of my main nand. By itself, it's not so bad (just switch back to my main nand). However...when I was using that other nand, all my GC games showed that "a disc error has occurred" message.

That kind of puzzles me. I was under the impression that even on neek2o, you need to install (& update) DML on the real nand. So how come it gives an error if I use a NAND that probably still has the same old regular MIOS?

So...really which MIOS do I need to update in order to truly test r21? (just the one on real nand, just the one on my emulated nand, or both?)
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Any ideas? :)
 

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So...really which MIOS do I need to update in order to truly test r21? (just the one on real nand, just the one on my emulated nand, or both?)
That sounds pretty odd. Well if you want to test it from neek2o DML needs to be installed on emu nand. If you wanna test it on real nand install DML there.
 

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Wow, I know this was useful to my friend and I b/c all the other tutorials were overly complicated. Thanks!

Also, FIX94 you may want to add this tool as an optional tool, as it allows one to back up retail Gamecube discs to have legal backups instead of downloading the iso/gcm from shady sites.
 

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Wow, I know this was useful to my friend and I b/c all the other tutorials were overly complicated. Thanks!

Also, FIX94 you may want to add this tool as an optional tool, as it allows one to back up retail Gamecube discs to have legal backups instead of downloading the iso/gcm from shady sites.
I don't know why people keep suggesting CleanRip, because it doesn't even work for a lot of people. There are plenty of other tools for the job, and just because you download the game (not from shady sites, why would you use one?) that doesn't mean you don't own the game.
 

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Wow, I know this was useful to my friend and I b/c all the other tutorials were overly complicated. Thanks!

Also, FIX94 you may want to add this tool as an optional tool, as it allows one to back up retail Gamecube discs to have legal backups instead of downloading the iso/gcm from shady sites.
I don't know why people keep suggesting CleanRip, because it doesn't even work for a lot of people. There are plenty of other tools for the job, and just because you download the game (not from shady sites, why would you use one?) that doesn't mean you don't own the game.


If cleanrip works on one Wii then why doesn't it work on all Wii's? If I can get it to work on my 3.2 Wii with HBC 1.0.1, and my 4.3 wii with HBC 1.0.8, then there is no excuse for anybody else.
 

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Oh, I've heard THAT one before. "but it SHOULD work". With that same undertone of "and if it doesn't, then it's their fault". :rolleyes:

Sorry, mate. But there are more factors involved than just the system menu and the HBC (which probably have nothing to do with the program in the first place). Maybe it's the cIOS cleanrip uses or the MIOS on the wii, but I think it's more likely that the model of the DVD-reader is the factor that determines whether it works or not.
 

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Wow, I know this was useful to my friend and I b/c all the other tutorials were overly complicated. Thanks!

Also, FIX94 you may want to add this tool as an optional tool, as it allows one to back up retail Gamecube discs to have legal backups instead of downloading the iso/gcm from shady sites.
I don't know why people keep suggesting CleanRip, because it doesn't even work for a lot of people. There are plenty of other tools for the job, and just because you download the game (not from shady sites, why would you use one?) that doesn't mean you don't own the game.


If cleanrip works on one Wii then why doesn't it work on all Wii's? If I can get it to work on my 3.2 Wii with HBC 1.0.1, and my 4.3 wii with HBC 1.0.8, then there is no excuse for anybody else.
ROFL!!! I'm bookmarking this post.

Attention all developers: It is no longer necessary to test things on multiple Wii's/setups. If it works for one person, it will work for everyone else.
 
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Oh, I've heard THAT one before. "but it SHOULD work". With that same undertone of "and if it doesn't, then it's their fault". :rolleyes:

Sorry, mate. But there are more factors involved than just the system menu and the HBC (which probably have nothing to do with the program in the first place). Maybe it's the cIOS cleanrip uses or the MIOS on the wii, but I think it's more likely that the model of the DVD-reader is the factor that determines whether it works or not.

It doesn't use cIOS, that's one of the main features. And MIOS is also irrelevant, it doesn't load MIOS (that just wouldn't work at all). It just rips the DVD, using hardware access given by HW_AHBPROT. Maybe there is a problem with some drives, but I have never heard of it failing for anyone before this.
 

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Oh, I've heard THAT one before. "but it SHOULD work". With that same undertone of "and if it doesn't, then it's their fault". :rolleyes:

Sorry, mate. But there are more factors involved than just the system menu and the HBC (which probably have nothing to do with the program in the first place). Maybe it's the cIOS cleanrip uses or the MIOS on the wii, but I think it's more likely that the model of the DVD-reader is the factor that determines whether it works or not.

It doesn't use cIOS, that's one of the main features. And MIOS is also irrelevant, it doesn't load MIOS (that just wouldn't work at all). It just rips the DVD, using hardware access given by HW_AHBPROT. Maybe there is a problem with some drives, but I have never heard of it failing for anyone before this.
It's a pretty big problem, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it. It spins down part way during rips for lots of games. There was a version that supposed to fix it, so I linked to it on the googlecode site, but it doesn't work either.
 

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For me cleanrip just works fine. BTW upped new wad creator which can now also download a clean BC if needed. Included a bit smaller nusd.exe too now.
 

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Do you guys know if DML has some GC virtual memory card function for the Sd card? ...like what NMM would do (don't really know if it actually does that too..).
 

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Somewhere in the code still exist the nmm code but I still was not able to get it to work.
 
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