Hacking Discussion Do you care about emunand?

[guily6669]

If I care about my Switch? Yes, so I care about emunand...

Almost brick safe and if shit goes pretty bad to the point of the console not booting with error color screens if its anything related to nand we would remove the mSD and bam its fixed unless the nand chip goes bad\corrupted.

 

[FAST6191]

It took me a while to figure it out but I realised what it was.
I was having flashbacks to the Android on Switch threads.

People seemingly fairly ardent in their opposition to such things but for reasons they seem unable to articulate fully or that don't quite make sense to me. Seemingly also "if you don't like it then don't use it" not applying.

Now the value of such things might be different to me compared to those Android discussions (this would just be seriously nice but I would rather see debugging, ban detection analysis, homebrew libraries for hardware, android (mainly as I see it as almost essential), and a bunch of other things first) but it is what it reminds me of. This emunand lark might not technically be necessary but from where I sit the absence of it from any kind of homebrew scene that could vaguely be called developed would be a serious oversight.

 

[Purple_Heart]

on Switch emunand is only waste of space....the hell i need a emunand which is 32gb big...

 

[hippy dave]

on Switch emunand is only waste of space....the hell i need a emunand which is 32gb big...

Protip: fill it with gaemz.

 

[Deleted User]

All i want is coldboot.

 

[bunny_wabbit]

No, all I want for Christmas is you

 

[stewacide]

Not really, since I don't have any interest in online play.

The feature I'm most hoping for is overclocking / ability to play docked-mode on the internal screen.

An Android port to Switch would also be great; it'd sort out pretty much everything everyone wants in terms of emulators, media playback, etc. plus you'd have access to all the Android/mobile games out there.

 

[guily6669]

I also dont care for online but I totally care for emunand, it doesnt need to be related to anything online...

With emunand I can stay in whatever FW I want 4 ever without the hassle of following the huge amount of steps rajkosto method of update and then have to use the crap auto-RCM...

I want something brick free, stay on low FW, use emunand offline 4 everything and never use auto-rcm.

 

[FAST6191]

on Switch emunand is only waste of space....the hell i need a emunand which is 32gb big...

If trends in memory prices continue then 32 gigs will be next to nothing in terms of the size available in cheap cards.

Protip: fill it with gaemz.

On the switch? Have emulators been ported to/created for it or something?

 

[Earth97]

emuNAND is a mandatory requirement for new units shipped with 4.1 which have access to homebrews through Deja Vu only.
Unless you want to cut off from the homebrew scene a good portion of users, it'll soon become something to work on.
Same to be said for those who are not willing to forgo their 1.0.0 sysNAND for understandable reasons.

 

[hippy dave]

On the switch? Have emulators been ported to/created for it or something?

Yes they have. Also I've already got way more Switch games installed that I want to play than I can comfortably keep up with.

 

[TehCupcakes]

I want to be able to run homebrew and emulators in CFW (fully offline), as well as play official games with OFW (online included). Without getting banned and without buying a second Switch.

If emunand will do that for me, I want.

 

[guily6669]

Its probably the safest thing 4 that, but remember even though it can be the safest it won't exactly ever be 100% safe after tampering with stuff (theoretically speaking).

And if later coldboot and warmboot exploits get released and used, they will also probably decrease safety as I'm thinking something will be permanently modified on the nand to allow direct boot of CFW...

 

[koyuki38]

Who cares the "sysNand" integrity if you don't go online ? Emunand which is supposed to be completely separated nand won't flag your console if it is the exact copy of an official updated Nand.

 

[fallqu]

Bet the ppl that used that cracked sx payload wish they had emunand

 

[slicer2k]

I don't even know what is emunand. i'm ok in the currently state of hacks. I can play my games perfectly eoven with dlcs so I'm fine to this date

 

[FAST6191]

I don't even know what is emunand. i'm ok in the currently state of hacks. I can play my games perfectly eoven with dlcs so I'm fine to this date

It is short for emulated nand. Which is to say if you have a flash memory chip that holds all the relevant firmware, user data and whatever else you can instead point it at a file on the SD card or somewhere else entirely (most operating systems are fine with this sort of thing as it does not really matter as long as it can read and write fast enough).

People doing hacks like them for many reasons. This includes
You can have two (or more) NAND images which allows multiple people to share a device, or maybe you to just have a bunch of games of a given type on one version and use it as a dedicated device.
You can have a highly hacked version for specialist needs (in normal play you probably don't want all your ROM hacking and cheat making tools), depending upon the security setup you may also want a specially hacked version for certain types of homebrew.
You can keep a clean version of NAND and use another for hacking, if you do it right then if the hacking one gets banned it will not be traced to your proper numbers and your device can carry on just fine. If you get caught normally then the device is banned and all that follows with that.
You can boot an entirely different OS (say android instead of the 3ds firmware).
If you mess up (or give it a young child that will mess something up) the emulated NAND then fixing the console amounts to "eject SD card/USB/whatever it is on, copy working backup onto SD card" and not "bust out soldering iron and manually flash firmware back" or "hope the recovery mode still works".

Some people may not want or care for any of that and live boring (no hacks or fancy homebrew) or dangerously (no care for bans or bricks). To actively oppose or dismiss it though is very odd behaviour from where I sit.

 

[BL4Z3D247]

Why are people against variety? No one wants options to suit their own individual needs? If you have SX Pro, good for you, that may not be what others want. EmuNAND isn't a waste of time, people arguing that it is, is a waste of time. If you don't want it you don't have to use it but don't make it out like it's not going to be useful to someone else.

I didn't use or want it on my 3DS because I didn't have a use for it but I think it would be useful to me on the Switch. Even if I wasn't going to use it I'd still would've voted yes because, why not?

 

[machinoman]

Why are people against variety? No one wants options to suit their own individual needs? If you have SX Pro, good for you, that may not be what others want. EmuNAND isn't a waste of time, people arguing that it is, is a waste of time. If you don't want it you don't have to use it but don't make it out like it's not going to be useful to someone else.

I didn't use or want it on my 3DS because I didn't have a use for it but I think it would be useful to me on the Switch. Even if I wasn't going to use it I'd still would've voted yes because, why not?

They voted no because they don't have the efuses, and if they can't have it no one can.

 

[Seelbreaker]

I personally think emunand will quickly become obsolete similar to the 3ds emunand

Emunand ist the best way to keep your firmware at a low-exploitable level and since you can use your emunand to update your console.

When i'm using Emunand (may it my wii, wii u, 3dsxl) i always have and had emunand running while the Originalfirmware becomes my Recovery Firmware (as old exploits will work there!). Therefore i do care and really want to have emunand may it be in atmosphere or Rei.

I don't have an 1.0 anymore but as far as i recal 2.x has a chance for emunand and therefore i will wait, since CFW will result in being on a higher firmware. Therefore keeping the original-Firmware as low as possible is the only solution for having a backup-way in getting everything working again.