DO NOT SIMPLY COPY AN ENTIRE ARTICLE

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by mthrnite, May 9, 2012.

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  1. Vampire Lied

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    I Second that. ^^^ Or maybe all usn stuff should get reviewed by staff before it's an officially posted/viewable thread. Probably would give them too much extra work though.
     


  2. Rydian

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    The point of USN is to share and discuss news. The problem is copy-pasting entire articles.

    Share news, but don't copy-paste the whole article. Preferably write a few sentences about it yourself.

    Simple shit. If you don't want to post stuff in USN, don't post in it.

    EDIT: Not directly aimed at Vampire. XD
     
  3. Tom Bombadildo

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    C'mon guys, is it really that hard to summarize a few paragraphs into a few sentences? It's not rocket science.
     
  4. Gahars

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    Unless you're trying to summarize rocket science, of course.
     
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    Well...you got me there. I demand an exception be made for rocket science!
     
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  6. Urza

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    Has there been any discussion backstage concerning this issue?

    Any time I happen to come across such an infringing article, I'll send a report. It seems less often than so that there is any action, which is stark contrast to when a post containing infringing software is reported and usually removed in short order.

    There is also the issue of repercussions. If a user continually makes infringing threads despite warnings from site volunteers, at what point are additional steps against the user taken? One or two users in particular continue to produce such threads and a few that have been reported weeks ago still remain. Granted, since it seems there has been little staff action against these violations it is completely possible that users such as they still have no idea, though one would think that the sticky makes the rule quite visible.

    Three possibilities I figure:

    1) Most moderators aren't aware of this newly enforced rule. They see the reports and mark them as resolved since they aren't even aware of the issue.

    2) They just don't care. Moderators selectively ignoring rules is a management issue which should be looked into.

    3) There is some backstage discussion fleshing the boundaries out which we aren't seeing, and moderators are waiting until consensus is reached before taking such action. This seems the most unlikely as a handful of moderators have been enforcing this rule.

    Again, I have no view of what goes on backstage so possibly this has already been addressed. I suppose my point is just to make sure everyone is on the same page and the site volunteers are all notified when rules "changes" such as this come into play.
     
  7. Hadrian

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    First I heard about this rule today, I've always tried to do more than just drop a quote of an article.
     
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  8. KingVamp

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    Kind of scaring away people from posting News. I feel like people are being gagged and toss into the abyss for trying to get news
    across.

    http://gbatemp.net/t...wii-u-the-most/
    I mean he may have done it wrong by not cutting down enough. How much do you clip from the article
    while keeping understanding or turning it to a misunderstanding? I mean he could have put in his input,but
    that really wouldn't make any difference.

    While I understand and appreciated what you trying to do,all people didn't have the best of writing skills or try to keep unbiased and clear information from the
    article. In any case, it isn't necessarily going to increase,decrease or even maintain traffic flow ,by posting only one/two sentences News, to the other website (which
    they may have just clip themselves)because people usually just jump in to post and leave without looking at the link.

    :unsure:
     
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    You're supposed to summarize the article in your own words, not cut and paste. If someone can't do that then they shouldn't post news. Simple.
     
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  10. Guild McCommunist

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    At this point in time, if you're still posting news articles that are copied and pasted after two threads dedicated to the discussion of this (one I believe by Urza and this one) and numerous thread closings because of it, then you deserve to get your article locked. I have really no tolerance for plagiarism at this point.

    You'll get "gagged and toss (sic) into the abyss" for plagiarizing, not posting news. If you're too much of a lazy ass or too stupid to read the rules at this point in time then you shouldn't be posting news. No ifs, ands, or buts.

    Yeah, not everyone has the best writing skills, but if you realize this, either A) don't post the news, B) send it to someone who will write something for it, or C) write a sentence or two about it and have them read more at the source. It's not hard. If you miss a piece of news there's plenty of others to pick it up.

    For the example at hand, he clipped a single paragraph (which, as Midna pointed out, helped introduce the article) and copy-pasted the rest. That's clear and obvious plagiarism.

    I'm not gonna go retype an entire summary because someone forgot to do their homework. That's his job. If he can't do it, his article gets locked, no matter how many pages of comments it has. End of discussion.
     
  11. p1ngpong

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    I would like to point out that soulx is just being an idiot. I have closed his threads multiple times for being plagiaristic, he knows perfectly well that posting in this way is not acceptable and he is more than capable of summarising an article in a few sentences if he wants to. Quite frankly he deserves to be gagged and tossed into the abyss at this point.
     
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  12. soulx

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    Because keeping the relevant bits of an article speaks of complete and total idiocy, right?

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    @Guild McCommunist:

    http://gbatemp.net/t...-and-cbs-films/

    Really?

    A couple relevant quotes is totally plagiarizing.
     
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  13. Guild McCommunist

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    The whole point of posting news here is to write something original, not just paste excerpts from other articles. You fail to do that over and over again.

    Either write something original or stop posting news. I just closed another one of your articles. You're consistently failing to realize what you're doing is wrong so I suggest you stop even trying.
     
  14. soulx

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    Excerpts of an article is not plagiarism. You don't seem to comprehend that.


    In the past couple of weeks, that was always allowed. You just got your jimmies rustled and decided to lock every damn thread.

    My thread:
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    That ain't fucking plagiarism. Good job on killing legitimate news threads, Mr. Mag Staff.
     
  15. Guild McCommunist

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    That means not just copying a part of a source and pasting it. Which is what you have done.

    EDIT: If it makes you feel better I put a post in the staff forum regarding the issue and if they disagree with me I'll open it easily.

    EDIT 2: If you want an example of correctly taking excerpts from articles, here's an example from my good man Gahars. It includes a snippet from the main article but contains his own personal writing as well.
     
  16. pokefloote

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    Each person may have their own views on what is plagiarism or what is not, but if you are using a forum, you must follow the rules of that forum.
    I would just shut up and follow them if I was a USN poster.
     
  17. Hyro-Sama

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    Ummm.... There is no alternate definition of plagiarism.
     
  18. Wizerzak

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    I miss the good old days when you could just post a news article from somewhere else in order to start a conversation about it, rather than having to re-write what has already been written or risk facing the wrath of an over-eager-"look-at-me-I-have-a-rank" reporter.
     
  19. Guild McCommunist

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    This isn't reddit.
     
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  20. pokefloote

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    I know, but some seem to think there is.
     
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