BREXIT [Poll] vote!

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Your memory doesn't serve you, I said on several occasions that I am PRO BREXIT. Still am. And posts of yours have already been removed from this thread for racism.

Again: Agitation and hate speech are not covered by freedom of speech laws in the EU.

Providing sources for the crimes happening is not racism. It's facts.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

The petition of the second EU referendum is bogus:

 

[sarkwalvein]

Edit:
On a lighter note: there's a second BREXIT happening right now in the EuroCup. If the mods are distracted watching that, I might understand.

Oh my, the National Team of a country of ~300.000 habitants is taking them out.
I have to watch that, perhaps that helps me deal with my late Argentina-Chile sourness.

 

[vayanui8]

So apparently alot of the false votes for a second referendum was part of a 4chan prank
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/

 

[Uwabami]

So apparently alot of the false votes for a second referendum was part of a 4chan prank
http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/

Doesn't surprise me. The petition is not binding (as is the referendum by UK constitution by the way) and doesn't have any way to check whether petitioners are UK citizens or not. Perfect 4chan bait.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Take, for instance, anything FOX news says. If you blindly believe anything they air just because they have "video evidence," you're an idiot. Video can be tampered with just as easily as anything else, and even if it isn't it is still very easy to blow it out of proportion by leaving out information or claiming things that don't apply to the video

 

[Viri]

Any online petition can be manipulated and should not be taken srs enough that it can determine the future of a country. It's honestly too easy to manipulate.

 

[Uwabami]

BREXIT #2 complete before BREXIT #1. No stalling on this one...

 

[vayanui8]

Take, for instance, anything FOX news says. If you blindly believe anything they air just because they have "video evidence," you're an idiot. Video can be tampered with just as easily as anything else, and even if it isn't it is still very easy to blow it out of proportion by leaving out information or claiming things that don't apply to the video

I don't think we should blindly trust any news source. While some may be more reliable than others, pretty much any source proves itself to be biased in one way or another.

 

[DjoeN]

BREXIT #2 complete before BREXIT #1. No stalling on this one...

Now we only need Wales to follow the English with BREXIT #2 this friday

 

[vayanui8]

It's not only tampering. Showing an untampered video out of context can be used to mislead people as well.



True. There are sources that are more prone to be biased, especially when their business model is targeting people's emotions, like tabloids. In principle it's always good to read more than one source (check if it's not only a verbatim copy of a news agency text).

White Supremacy sites and YouTube are NEVER credible sources, unless used by a credible entity. Anonymous conspiracy theorists are not credible.

I think theres merit to having a wide variety of sources. Sometimes even a bad source will have good information. This especially applies to youtube. Youtube may have alot of BS on it, but it also has a massive selection. Sometimes it can have actual footage, and other times it can be a good medium for expressing someones views. Just because it may not always be reliable doesn't mean it never is. Its better to see an argument from all sides rather than just one. By seeing opposing viewpoints you can gain newfound respect and understanding for them rather than just looking down on them.

 

[Deleted-355425]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36640889

We will have a new PM by September 2nd.

 

[Uwabami]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36640889

We will have a new PM by September 2nd.

Why the delay? #BREGRET? Stalling?

 

[Deleted-355425]

You should take a look at this, we are not in the United States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

Who did I say I hate? I think you guys are trying to hard, I'm not seeing any of your posts adding anything to the thread so I'm sure a mod will delete them

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Why the delay? #BREGRET? Stalling?

I think it's just bureaucracy

I think you guys are trying to hard

*wink*

 

[Uwabami]

I think it's just bureaucracy

The OUT Campaign promised to "trigger article 50" the day after the referendum. Now not only the Prime Minister, but the BREXIT people are stalling. They probably all thought they'd never win. Again England (not the UK) is causing trouble for everyone else like a spoiled child.

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Who did I say I hate? I think you guys are trying to hard, I'm not seeing any of your posts adding anything to the thread so I'm sure a mod will delete them

Read the article. You should probably read more in general. And tabloids don't count.

 

[mightymuffy]

Well Roy Hodgson has also just resigned... Clearly the Leave voters were right, there's plenty new jobs available....!

 

[Xiphiidae]

Then you didn't read my posts, I said that some of these cases were uncovered as hoaxes and some were out of context.

You haven't demonstrated this, but even if what're you're claiming is true, how does that make the argument itself invalid? You yourself are saying that not all of the cases are untrue, and hence there is something to be said for it.

And he pretended (just like the illegal forum he linked to) that ONLY foreigners are rapists by OMISSION.

This is unbelievable grasping at straws, to be honest. Is no one allowed to mention any crimes committed by migrants because that would be racist "by omission"? Nothing he said claimed or even implied or suggested that only foreigners are rapists, that is categorically untrue and it is intellectually dishonest for you to even claim that he believes that.

You can't be serious. Just take the video about Merkel and Cologne, there was almost nothing truthful in there. And the tone is more that obvious.

Last time I checked, even if it is shown to be untrue, that doesn't necessarily make it illegal.

I hope you're proud of yourself defending racist propaganda.

You have not been able to demonstrate how it is racist at all. Do you dismiss anything that goes against your worldview as being "propaganda"?

 

[Viri]

Shut up guys, did you not read his post?

I hope the mods will shut this down soon, or I will report this to the authorities. I know the owner of this forum lives in the UK and this clearly violates UK/EU law.

He's gonna call the cops on us!

 

[WolfSaviorZX]

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