Hacking Activity / Game Log and Flashcarts

[Spongeroberto]

They can request you to show your copy as evidence and see the save files/cheak the pins for wear.
if the save file is not equal to he amount of time played aka the place you should be in the game even after restarts, then they continue the prosecution

of course ninty would not try to sue you any way since there is no garentee at the start

What, they would send you a letter demanding you show them a receipt for Alex Rider?

No, such measures would be so low even Ubisoft would find it wrong.

 

[Nollog]

Since DSi flashcarts spoof games, they'll just show up in the log as whatever game they spoof. Nintendo can't do anything to you for the log saying you played Alex Rider for 500 hours.

All they have to do is check what the kart is spoofing, and see 500 hours alex rider, 400 hours jumping balls game, 600 hours sitting balls game.
(couldn't think of games, but take jumping balls game and sitting balls game to be the next two flashcart's game used to spoof)

A pattern can be proof.
Not very good proof and probably would fail in court, but proof.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

They can request you to show your copy as evidence and see the save files/cheak the pins for wear.
if the save file is not equal to he amount of time played aka the place you should be in the game even after restarts, then they continue the prosecution

of course ninty would not try to sue you any way since there is no garentee at the start

Nintendo can request to see the game all they want, but there's no reason you'd have to actually show it them without a court order (at least in the US, anyways). I highly doubt they would go to all that trouble. Plus, showing the cart proves nothing - you could just as easily borrow it from somebody, rent it, etc. Only a small amount of games actually track your play time on the game.

QUOTE(mysticwaterfall @ Mar 24 2011, 04:47 AM) Since DSi flashcarts spoof games, they'll just show up in the log as whatever game they spoof. Nintendo can't do anything to you for the log saying you played Alex Rider for 500 hours.

All they have to do is check what the kart is spoofing, and see 500 hours alex rider, 400 hours jumping balls game, 600 hours sitting balls game.
(couldn't think of games, but take jumping balls game and sitting balls game to be the next two flashcart's game used to spoof)

A pattern can be proof.
Not very good proof and probably would fail in court, but proof.

A pattern can be circumstantial evidence, not proof.

 

[earny]

mens!!!

isn't the activity log use to prevent children to play too much to a video game instead, since 3ds have a parental lock menu.

....don't become paranoïd

 

[Saddamsdevil]

EDIT: wrong topic

 

[Oceanborn712]

I always wonder how people get these ideas. How the hell is Nintendo supposed to ask you for an original cartridge of game X without even knowing who you are? Unless you enter your credit card in the still nonexisting eStore there's absolutely nothing Nintendo knows about you other than your System's ID Number and your Friend Code.

 

[Fluto]

maybe a future update for flashcards would be to automatically change the "game" that you played last so it wont say "Alex Rider - [insert incredibly large number here]".

 

[xdf]

I have a slightly related question, if a game was loaded from a flashcart on a ds/dsi and download play was used on a 3ds to play multiplayer, is that going to log any flashcart use on the 3ds or just the actual game that was played?...

 

[R2DJ]

I have a slightly related question, if a game was loaded from a flashcart on a ds/dsi and download play was used on a 3ds to play multiplayer, is that going to log any flashcart use on the 3ds or just the actual game that was played?...

Good question. I'm wondering about this too as I've just had a Pokemon battle with a friend, with me playing a legit cart of White on my 3DS and my friend using an AK2i playing Black on a DSi.

 

[TheNikkoMan]

I have a slightly related question, if a game was loaded from a flashcart on a ds/dsi and download play was used on a 3ds to play multiplayer, is that going to log any flashcart use on the 3ds or just the actual game that was played?...

Good question. I'm wondering about this too as I've just had a Pokemon battle with a friend, with me playing a legit cart of White on my 3DS and my friend using an AK2i playing Black on a DSi.

Hm. I can test this. Give me 15 minutes. And some cake.

 

[KingVamp]

maybe a future update for flashcards would be to automatically change the "game" that you played last so it wont say "Alex Rider - [insert incredibly large number here]".

Doesn't switching through to many games seem suspicious? (paranoid view.)

Anyway you forgetting the possibility someone else could also be using you 3DS.

Or that may be the only game you/they have.

If someone traded it to you, a receipt would mean nothing. Especially how easy you can lose a receipt.

People taking turns playing the same game.

 

[TheNikkoMan]

I have a slightly related question, if a game was loaded from a flashcart on a ds/dsi and download play was used on a 3ds to play multiplayer, is that going to log any flashcart use on the 3ds or just the actual game that was played?...

Good question. I'm wondering about this too as I've just had a Pokemon battle with a friend, with me playing a legit cart of White on my 3DS and my friend using an AK2i playing Black on a DSi.

Sorry, I couldn't get either of M3i Zero or DS2 to use download play at all. It's not a problem with the 3DS because it didn't work when trying to download to a DSi either (from my Lite).
You don't own me cake, but if you have a fix for download play, tell me and I'll find out.

 

[Rydian]

Nintendo has no right to demand you show them your game.

What, are you all assuming they're going to come to your door?

Please...

 

[DeMoN]

I really don't think they can look at the games you play. I mean, would you want people to know you played Doki Doki for hundreds of hours on the DS?

 

[TheNikkoMan]

I'm not sure what you mean by "they", but there IS a function that tracks how long you have been playing, what and when, on the 3DS.
Saying this is going to be used as flashcart evidence is just bs tho

 

[KingVamp]

I'm not sure what you mean by "they", but there IS a function that tracks how long you have been playing, what and when, on the 3DS.
Saying this is going to be used as flashcart evidence is just bs tho

They as in Nintendo could look into your personal logs?

 

[xdf]

I have a slightly related question, if a game was loaded from a flashcart on a ds/dsi and download play was used on a 3ds to play multiplayer, is that going to log any flashcart use on the 3ds or just the actual game that was played?...

Good question. I'm wondering about this too as I've just had a Pokemon battle with a friend, with me playing a legit cart of White on my 3DS and my friend using an AK2i playing Black on a DSi.

Sorry, I couldn't get either of M3i Zero or DS2 to use download play at all. It's not a problem with the 3DS because it didn't work when trying to download to a DSi either (from my Lite).
You don't own me cake, but if you have a fix for download play, tell me and I'll find out.

Well I just tested download play on Mario Kart using Acekard 2i on the dsi, the activity log on the 3ds after playing just says 'Download Play', doesnt mention the game name

 

[Nollog]

I really don't think they can look at the games you play. I mean, would you want people to know you played Doki Doki for hundreds of hours on the DS?

One of the first prompts I got was that Nintendo can use my information and what games I play etc. for marketing purposes.
If they use my activity log to claim I'm a pirate, I can probably sue them for breaking the EULA.

 

[bigpaws]

it is for marketing purposes
they are stoping piracy

 

[IRISH OS1R1S]

I put my ttds card in the 3DS today, knowing it wouldn't work but you got to give it a shot. Anyway it showed up in the activity log as a ttds card but the log gives the option to delete it.