Gaming Nintendo needs to stop remastering WiiU games

Are you annoyed of all the remasters?

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    Votes: 192 73.6%

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RivenMain

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if they designed the game already then it's cost effective with having a story written and game play mechanics. If it's cheap enough and they can afford to bank off of nintendo switch then why not rayman did it and that was a ps vita game.
 

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Meanwhile, 12-year-old FFXII gets a port from PS2, nobody bats an eye. Remakes/remasters happen all the time for every system, at least Nintendo has the excuse that WiiU sold poorly. Sony is gonna remake every PS2/PS3 game the way they're going, and those systems did not sell poorly.
they could have just made the ps2/ps1 backward compatible, and could have figure out a better way on making the ps3 BC, but without paying alot of money or if they really coudn't do it then they should have bundle it with playstation plus.
 

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they could have just made the ps2/ps1 backward compatible, and could have figure out a better way on making the ps3 BC, but without paying alot of money or if they really coudn't do it then they should have bundle it with playstation plus.

There is absolutely no reason PS1 Classics are not on the PS4.
 

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considering the small user base of the wiiu and how good some of the games actually were, not remastering or even just simply porting them, would be crazy.

only gripe is the price point. i know porting does take work and money, but nowhere near as much work as making a game from scratch.
 

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Most of the ports I want is the ones that correct some of the huge problems the game originally had, like Xenoblade Chronicles X. The font is too small, correct that. Then also the improve load times for not using a disc, and improve multiplayer content, using switch would perhaps greatly improve some things about the game that it originally presented. Sonic Sega All star racing transformed, 10 player local multiplayer and 60 FPS (maybe more of the PC exclusive characters) I mean I don't thing is all that bad, they are mostly focusing on the games that help push wii u sales, believe it or not some games like bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong Country tropical freeze, Mario Kart 8, super smash bros, and Super mario maker was a few. The only gripe is they put $60 price tag on them. I don't care how much you really polish on the game, but not lowering the price of the ports is not a appealing motive to buy the game unless you didn't already buy it, in this case, they are focused on those people or people with money willing to pay top dollar again.
 
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I'm all for it. Didn't own a Wii U.

That being said, there are good and bad examples. Good: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for having all DLC. Hyrule Warriors for all DLC and including features that were 3DS-only.

Bad: Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze. Charge for more from when it was actually new and only addition is easy mode character. (The game launched at $50)

You can just not buy the games, or get them second hand at some point.

The only gripe is they put $60 price tag on them.

Again, I think this is mostly fair. MK8D includes all DLC when the original Wii U game is still fairly pricy in its barebones state. Hyrule Warriors has like what, $40 of DLC? But again, DKCTF is a bad example of this.
 
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If they were priced sanely, like $20 or so, okay, but they're full price or more. Yeah, I ain't paying $60 for switch DKCTF when the original Wii U version was $10 less when first out.
 

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As someone who has bought every Nintendo console since the N64 except the Wii U, I strongly disagree with this.

Pros for porting or remastering Wii U games for Switch:
  • Due to the low sales figures, if Nintendo were to remaster these Wii U games for the Switch, people would get to play great games they never previously experienced, opening them up to a much wider audience.
  • The games are being run on more powerful hardware, there is now the possibility of a graphical and/or framerate upgrade.
  • You can now play Wii U classics portably!
  • Better, more responsive and more accurate motion controls in-game; 2005-technology Wii Remote vs. 2016-technology Joy-Cons!
  • HD rumble, baby! FEEEEL THE GAME!!!
  • They are the complete editions, so no additional purchases needed for DLC!
  • You can play Wii U games without switching (ha!) consoles.
  • No more excruciating download, boot-up and load times!
Cons:
  • It makes Wii U owners angry.
 
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The point is why remaster a game like that when you can just port it over as VC it would save a bunch of money for us who bought it once or twice
because its a lazy way to make dollar.

why make something new when you can port.

in fact, take a look at all nintendo titles and notice very little ever changes in them, slight graphical upgrade, but its the same crap over and over.

problem again i have when it comes to nintendo is that it again is lacking, third parties are porting old titles i already own, and even nintendo are porting its old wii u games.

but hey ho, the fans will deny this.

i couldnt give a crap if its a portable tablet console, if its games are going to be like this then bravo, it will be another system with possibly 5-10 games that are "must have's" in its entire life...... (and no im not in to bright colours pansy games aimed at 3-5 year olds)
 

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As someone who has bought every Nintendo console since the N64 except the Wii U, I strongly disagree with this.

Pros for porting or remastering Wii U games for Switch:
  • Due to the low sales figures, if Nintendo were to remaster these Wii U games for the Switch, people would get to play great games they never previously experienced, opening them up to a much wider audience.
  • The games are being run on more powerful hardware, there is now the possibility of a graphical and/or framerate upgrade.
  • You can now play Wii U classics portably!
  • Better, more responsive and more accurate motion controls in-game; 2005-technology Wii Remote vs. 2016-technology Joy-Cons!
  • HD rumble, baby! FEEEEL THE GAME!!!
  • They are the complete editions, so no additional purchases needed for DLC!
  • You can play Wii U games without switching (ha!) consoles.
  • No more excruciating download, boot-up and load times!
Cons:
  • It makes Wii U owners angry.
while i agree to wiiu remasters some of your points are already proven false lol
1 yes thats is the main reason
2- sure
3-for sure
4- not really so far the games that have been remaster dont feature much ir or tilting tbh.
5-really? not even switch games use hd rumble... so far besides the crap 1-2 switch no game ever even used hd rumble remotely decently, they just use normal rumble wiiu remasters included.
6-nintendo just announced dlc for pokken tournament s yah dx editions can still get dlc wich you have to buy
7-sure
8- if the game has a patch like upcoming pokken or you buy it on e shop you still have to download, sure loadtimes are smaller but they are still there.
 

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while i agree to wiiu remasters some of your points are already proven false lol
1 yes thats is the main reason
2- sure
3-for sure
4- not really so far the games that have been remaster dont feature much ir or tilting tbh.
5-really? not even switch games use hd rumble... so far besides the crap 1-2 switch no game ever even used hd rumble remotely decently, they just use normal rumble wiiu remasters included.
6-nintendo just announced dlc for pokken tournament s yah dx editions can still get dlc wich you have to buy
7-sure
8- if the game has a patch like upcoming pokken or you buy it on e shop you still have to download, sure loadtimes are smaller but they are still there.

4: Many Wii U games required the use of a WiiMote for motion controls.
5: Literally every first-party Switch game so far uses HD rumble.
6: It's a Bandai Namco game, Nintendo didn't develop or publish it.
8: I said "excruciating load times". The Switch patches take 10 seconds at most to download and install. That's the polar opposite of excruciating. Wii U apparently takes many minutes.
 
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4: Many Wii U games required the use of a WiiMote for motion controls.
5: Literally every first-party Switch game so far uses HD rumble.
6: It's a Bandai Namco game, Nintendo didn't develop or publish it.
8: I said "excruciating load times". The Switch patches take 10 seconds at most to download and install. That's the polar opposite of excruciating. Wii U apparently takes many minutes.
4 you mean optional wiimote controls right? besides mario and sonic olimpic and nintendoland(multiplayer), no game actualy required a mandatory wiimote to play, they all played just fine with the gamepad or wiiupro them having optional wiimote controls doesnt make them mandatory or required, i never used my wiimote on wiiu games since i hate them lol.

5- really? then they are crap because in botw,odissey, and every other of my 5 switch games i never felt anything worth even mentioning in the rumble department lol mk8 had the start up but that was about it...

6- nintendo owns the game, nameco,bandai cant make or port or do anything without nintendo saying its ok, same reason why nintendo owns every right of donkey kong 64,country 1,2,3 and such even tough rare did them, owning the ip you own the game and decide where it can be published and how, that is the reason why on relaunch they removed banjo and conker of diddy kong racing becuase tehy owned the entire game except those 2 characters.So yeah they own pokken tournament and decide what can de done,added or removed, not bandai namco, the final say its all nintendo's.

8-i own a wiiu and a big collection of games and never had excruciating loading times, with the exception of lego city undercover every wiiu game had normal download/load times nothing to write home about tbh just normal nothin you wouldnt get on ps3,xbox360.
 

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I certainly don't mind them porting games. It's helping developers understand the differences, it's helping plug in gaps between releases, and it's letting me play my favorite wii u games on the go. I'm not particularly happy about buying the games for a second time, but at this point, it's more like buying the "complete" version with all the DLC. You see that stuff all the time on ps4 and xbox1, so it's hardly unusual. And it's not terrible for the switch, especially for those games I never got around to buying the first time around (pokken, for example) or never bought the dlc for (hyrule warriors). Still wish they were a bit cheaper though :\
 
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(note: I only noticed this thread now) Why does this thread have eleven pages? Honestly...is there ANY real reason why they shouldn't?

Cost is never an issue, as remastering only costs a fraction of the actual development time (and with barely any manhours needed to recreate the port, barely any manhours are lost on development of new games). It fills the library with quality titles, ensures that those who never had the previous platform can also enjoy the game and it's a quick and simple way to make money in a non-controversial way*. It's a win-win for (practically) everybody.


What I don't get is that this isn't the first time I've seen this discussion pop up. What's up with that freaking entitlement of gamers? I also read a lot, but I've never heard of anyone hating the fact that the author had a second print of their book. Or that (s)he wrote a new intro. Or converted it to an e-book. Perhaps readers take it for granted that they've bought something that they can still enjoy (here's something that flies right over the heads of the yes-voters: YOU CAN STILL PLAY THAT GAME ON YOUR WIIU!!!)

Movies and series are also reconverted all the time. After VHS, every movie came out on DVD. Remastered and with extras, but the same movies. And then yet another time on blue-ray. Oh, and on netflix, hulu and what have you. Do you think any true fan of the medium is going to tell Hollywood that remastering an old movie to be used on a modern device is somehow bad?


EDIT: for clarity: I voted no. Nintendo can re-release their entire freaking library for all I care. I'm just going to do something that may sound controversial: not buy games like Donkey kong tropical freeze or bayonetta again (I already have them!).


*even you "yes"-voters gotta admit that it's a better way for ninty to make money than squeeze all that can be had out of DLC or loot boxes.
 
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what nonnintendo platform did mariokart and zelda go on? they added higher res on old game, or a remaster. they adding the extra titty to make it sell again, just ask Total Recall
The SEGA produced Triforce Arcade System, a modified PC for MKGPDX and Luigi's Mansion Cabinet, and the CDi. Let's not mention Mario's FUNdementals and the Mobile games Nintendo is making
 

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