Gaming Will Nintendo allow rainway to happen?

Risingdawn · Sep 23, 2017

duffmmann said:
Well lets compare to other Netflix-like services we see on the Xbone and PS4. For Microsoft, the Xbox game pass is $10 a month. While for Sony, the PS Now service is $20 a month. (Keep in mind, the PS Now library is substantially larger than the Xbox game pass library, and it spans more previous Sony systems). At $20 a month including your online access fee a month getting a selection of ideally hundreds of games spanning the NES through the Gamecube, and the GB through DS. Its actually a price right in line with what the competition is doing. And of course if you paid a yearly fee you'd get a discount just as Sony and Microsoft's offering allow for.

Why wouldn't I want this? Having access to all the best old school games without having to pay for each of them individually would be a dream come true, especially for a system like the Switch that you can bring with you anywhere. I'd be all over it and I know I'm not even close to alone, I've floated this idea on other message boards (and other threads here in the past) and overall people seem excited by such an idea.

If it had a really good selection of Snes N64 GC and DS games, as well as the online features wrapped into one £15ish a month payment...

I'd pay for that yeah, there's a ton of games worth playing.

I wouldn't pay for just a bunch of gameboy nes and snes games though, I'd rather use my 3ds.

duffmmann · Sep 23, 2017

Risingdawn said:
If it had a really good selection of Snes N64 GC and DS games, as well as the online features wrapped into one £15ish a month payment...

I'd pay for that yeah, there's a ton of games worth playing.

I wouldn't pay for just a bunch of gameboy nes and snes games though, I'd rather use my 3ds.

Oh agreed. I mean the PS Now service has over 500 games. If Nintendo managed to get around 500 of the best NES, SNES, N64, GC, GBC, GBA, and DS games onto a service that you pay a monthly fee to access all those games with, I think it'd make for a genius move for the virtual console service, and if done right could end up being much more lucrative for Nintendo than how they have been handling their VC releases.

Risingdawn · Sep 23, 2017

duffmmann said:
Oh agreed. I mean the PS Now service has over 500 games. If Nintendo managed to get around 500 of the best NES, SNES, N64, GC, GBC, GBA, and DS games onto a service that you pay a monthly fee to access all those games with, I think it'd make for a genius move for the virtual console service, and if done right could end up being much more lucrative for Nintendo than how they have been handling their VC releases.

Totally agree, there's a ton of real quality games in there and that would definitely tip the balance for me in choosing to subscribe, It would give Nintendo that leverage into the subscription market they obviously desire.

Only thing though I'm not sure I could see Nintendo putting on GC games, especially when Sony charge about £12 a pop for their PS2 offerings. Shame though.

xile6 · Sep 23, 2017

I dont think it would even work for most people. So it really doesnt matter.

I have a 30mb connection and i try to stream a few simple games from my xbox one to my laptop. Same room just over wifi. And it still get lag on medium setting.

So I highly doubt the switch will be running any faster. So if your streaming to it it would simply not work good enough to play games and there for be pointless.

Risingdawn · Sep 23, 2017

xile6 said:
I dont think it would even work for most people. So it really doesnt matter.

I have a 30mb connection and i try to stream a few simple games from my xbox one to my laptop. Same room just over wifi. And it still get lag on medium setting.

So I highly doubt the switch will be running any faster. So if your streaming to it it would simply not work good enough to play games and there for be pointless.

PS4 remote play runs like crap even when everything's wired, I gave up in the end on my PSTV, weirdly my Vita got a better remote play than my PSTV but still sub par.

I'm not one of those ridiculous 60fps snobs either.

HaloEliteLegend · Sep 23, 2017

DarthDub said:
Switch = HD Wii U game pad for your PC!

No complaints from me!

Yil · Sep 24, 2017

Risingdawn said:
Totally agree, there's a ton of real quality games in there and that would definitely tip the balance for me in choosing to subscribe, It would give Nintendo that leverage into the subscription market they obviously desire.

Only thing though I'm not sure I could see Nintendo putting on GC games, especially when Sony charge about £12 a pop for their PS2 offerings. Shame though.

First rainway is in home streaming whose nature is closer to that of or Nvidia sheild streaming. The lag is almost neglible and Nintendo charges you 25 dollars a year for both online (mostly server maintainence?) and virtual console subscription.

Xzi · Sep 24, 2017

duffmmann said:
Well lets compare to other Netflix-like services we see on the Xbone and PS4. For Microsoft, the Xbox game pass is $10 a month. While for Sony, the PS Now service is $20 a month. (Keep in mind, the PS Now library is substantially larger than the Xbox game pass library, with both services only offering titles from 2 of their systems (their current one and the one before)). At $20 a month including your online access fee a month getting a selection of ideally hundreds of games spanning the NES through the Gamecube, and the GB through DS. Its actually a price right in line with what the competition is doing. And of course if you paid a yearly fee you'd get a discount just as Sony and Microsoft's offering allow for.

Why wouldn't I want this? Having access to all the best old school games without having to pay for each of them individually would be a dream come true, especially for a system like the Switch that you can bring with you anywhere. I'd be all over it and I know I'm not even close to alone, I've floated this idea on other message boards (and other threads here in the past) and overall people seem excited by such an idea.

But you can get the games that are on Xbox One on pretty much any platform. $20 is still ridiculously overpriced, especially when you're talking about PS Now and its shit collection of games. Do I even really need to mention Ouya or the other thousand streaming-focused devices that have released and immediately tanked hard? I don't see Nintendo releasing a service that costs $20 a month when their online service is around $20 a year. There are people that still complained even about that price.

The problem with subscriptions is the same as it is for MMOs: you end up using it infrequently and eventually you'll realize you aren't getting your money's worth. When you've already paid for a game, you know it's there to play whenever, that same pressure and guilt isn't present.

duffmmann · Sep 24, 2017

Risingdawn said:
Totally agree, there's a ton of real quality games in there and that would definitely tip the balance for me in choosing to subscribe, It would give Nintendo that leverage into the subscription market they obviously desire.

Only thing though I'm not sure I could see Nintendo putting on GC games, especially when Sony charge about £12 a pop for their PS2 offerings. Shame though.

well considering Sony and MS's similar offerings at 20 and 10 dollars a month respectively include PS3 and PS4 games and 360 and Xbone games, I don't think its necessarily outside the realm of possibility that at a similar price point, Nintendo's VC service could go up to and include the Gamecube.

Regardless, I just love the idea, it'd be a great way to get people to play games they otherwise wouldn't because they're mildly interested in the title, but not enough to pay the individual VC prices they've been pushing for years.

Xzi · Sep 24, 2017

duffmmann said:
well considering Sony and MS's similar offerings at 20 and 10 dollars a month respectively include PS3 and PS4 games and 360 and Xbone games, I don't think its necessarily outside the realm of possibility that at a similar price point, Nintendo's VC service could go up to and include the Gamecube.

Regardless, I just love the idea, it'd be a great way to get people to play games they otherwise wouldn't because they're mildly interested in the title, but not enough to pay the individual VC prices they've been pushing for years.

The only way they're going to sell a subscription or VC games is if they're reasonably priced. If it includes a lot of Gamecube games I'd probably be willing to pay $10 a month. Though I'd prefer to pay $10 - $15 individually for Gamecube games. $5 - $8 for SNES games, or a $5 a month subscription. If they try to match Sony's $20 a month it'll bomb hard. I doubt Microsoft's service or Sony's service really have that many subscribers anyway, most would just go buy an XB1 or PS4. Or if they wanna go cheap, RROD360 or PS3.

duffmmann · Sep 24, 2017

Xzi said:
The only way they're going to sell a subscription or VC games is if they're reasonably priced. If it includes a lot of Gamecube games I'd probably be willing to pay $10 a month. Though I'd prefer to pay $10 - $15 individually for Gamecube games. $5 - $8 for SNES games, or a $5 a month subscription. If they try to match Sony's $20 a month it'll bomb hard. I doubt Microsoft's service or Sony's service really have that many subscribers anyway, most would just go buy an XB1 or PS4. Or if they wanna go cheap, RROD360 or PS3.

$20 between both such a VC service and your online service is absolutely a reasonable price to me. And again if you pay for a yearly rate they'd certainly discount that. If it were the only way Nintendo offered to play VC games on the Switch, there's no way it would fail, so many people want that content. And hey if $20 did prove to not be a success they could always adjust the price, though that might in turn require that they cut back on the overall amount of games you could choose from.

Xzi · Sep 24, 2017

duffmmann said:
$20 between both such a VC service and your online service is absolutely a reasonable price to me. And again if you pay for a yearly rate they'd certainly discount that. If it were the only way Nintendo offered to play VC games on the Switch, there's no way it would fail, so many people want that content. And hey if $20 did prove to not be a success they could always adjust the price, though that might in turn require that they cut back on the overall amount of games you could choose from.

I think you're dreaming. Neither Sony nor MS make their money primarily through games-per-month subscriptions. They make it through the consoles, games, and downloadable games on PSN/XBL. Offering games that can clearly be played on Switch, but only while you're paying a double-Netflix monthly fee, would be viewed extremely negatively by everybody in the gaming community. Not least of all parents who bought their kid Switch expecting they generally knew what the long-term costs would be. I think we'll obviously get much older games first, beginning with NES, and they'll be individually priced while the monthly multiplayer games remain arcade-focused. A few NES games that have finished porting are not going to be worth paying any subscription price for, TBH.

ov3rkill · Sep 24, 2017

I hope they will. I'd love to see some interesting apps on the Switch and this is one of them.

Pippin666 · Sep 24, 2017

It's never going to happen. Do you think Nintendo will let you play emulators when they will try to sell you VC ? I say it again, forget about it.

Pip'

Yil · Sep 24, 2017

Pippin666 said:
It's never going to happen. Do you think Nintendo will let you play emulators when they will try to sell you VC ? I say it again, forget about it.

Pip'

Why the f*** would you stream emulator over to your switch if your phone can do the same thing with a joystick. Besides the subscription come with the $25 per year online fee.

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Xzi said:
I think you're dreaming. Neither Sony nor MS make their money primarily through games-per-month subscriptions. They make it through the consoles, games, and downloadable games on PSN/XBL. Offering games that can clearly be played on Switch, but only while you're paying a double-Netflix monthly fee, would be viewed extremely negatively by everybody in the gaming community. Not least of all parents who bought their kid Switch expecting they generally knew what the long-term costs would be. I think we'll obviously get much older games first, beginning with NES, and they'll be individually priced while the monthly multiplayer games remain arcade-focused. A few NES games that have finished porting are not going to be worth paying any subscription price for, TBH.

I am fairly certain Nintendo is not into the whole Netflix like Subscription. This was a clone of Xbox Live Gold/ PSN+ without the free monthly indie.

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Did no one watch Nintendo E3 2017 where they change the online subscription?

ut2k4master · Sep 24, 2017

Yil said:
Why the f*** would you stream emulator over to your switch if your phone can do the same thing with a joystick. Besides the subscription come with the $25 per year online fee.

its $20 per year and its not going to be a netflix like service (especially in the number of titles available), even if people are calling it that

xile6 · Sep 25, 2017

Risingdawn said:
PS4 remote play runs like crap even when everything's wired, I gave up in the end on my PSTV, weirdly my Vita got a better remote play than my PSTV but still sub par.

I'm not one of those ridiculous 60fps snobs either.

yea see thats what im talking about.
It simply doesnt work as said.
I got the vita and try it can just got discounts. Gave up on it. Then try with my phone with the android app, ran better but same problem.
Thought the xbox would be better but turns out to be the same thing.

Yil · Sep 25, 2017

xile6 said:
yea see thats what im talking about.
It simply doesnt work as said.
I got the vita and try it can just got discounts. Gave up on it. Then try with my phone with the android app, ran better but same problem.
Thought the xbox would be better but turns out to be the same thing.

Steam Link works perfectly though.

Xzi · Sep 25, 2017

Yil said:
Steam Link works perfectly though.

Steam Link, Shield TV, etc all work great for in-home streaming. You need a fast dual-band router to get the best results, though.

Yil · Sep 25, 2017

Xzi said:
Steam Link, Shield TV, etc all work great for in-home streaming. You need a fast dual-band router to get the best results, though.

I have a 16 port gigabit switch in my basement, which both my steam link and pc is wired.

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