Former GBAtemp member and suspected pedophile gets 20 year sentence

Deleted-355425 · Apr 24, 2017

Mark McDonut said:
From a technical standpoint it's possible, just not very plausible and would have more than likely stuck out like a sore thumb on his git repo where sources were/are.

I'm talking about anything you install on your consoles released by anyone, or modified and reuploaded by anyone.. this really is an eye opener.

Aurora Wright · Apr 24, 2017

If he's been convicted, he's no longer "suspected" or "supposed", so I can't see why labelling him as such?

linuxares · Apr 24, 2017

Okey one thing I don't get. If his now innocent and got hacked etc. Where are the logs that proves him innocent? Don't give me the crap that "They were wiped" or "He didn't have logs enabled because xyz". Anyone working with IT have logs enabled except when they wish to hide something.

About teenagers doing what teenagers do, I have no problem with that French 15 year old making his own decision. It's not in my position to decided how manture the person is or not. People looking down on others kind of piss me of because I work with teenagers and a lot of them are more mature than freaking 25 year olds (Fun fact, the brain isn't fully developed until around the age of 25 so... should everyone be considered a minor until that age?)

About supporting pedophilia. There are two terms that get mixed up. A pedophile is a person intrested in prepubecented children. What most refere to in the new topic on Reddit is a hebephile. A person that is intrested in pubecented teenagers.
I don't support either, it's just that I'm not in a position about whatever is wrong or not. I really don't condone any of it. Especially not real pedophiles.

Also speaking about humans, it's biologically programmed in to the brain to seek out younger partners. Since the younger the mother is the better chance to a healthy offspring. So rather than hate towards the closet pedophiles, offer them help. Not all of them are active and they probably know how they feel is wrong.

(Man it feels like I defend someone here, and I generally don't and I do not condon any of the behaviour of pedophiles.)

Wiisel · Apr 24, 2017

I have zero tolerance for these people they deserve everything that comes to them and more, they are not sick they are the sickness.

V0ltr0n · Apr 24, 2017

It is not biologically programmed in the brain to seek out a minor for sexual activity. It is a mental disorder. One that should be cured by execution when found out. Just my opinion, but anyone that sees a child and thinks "oh thats hot, i'd like a piece of that" should get help. Help into the afterlife by public execution. Pedos should not be tolerated or understood in any way. Just put them down like the rabid dogs they are and be done with it.

ShadowOne333 · Apr 24, 2017

Why are people saying he's a child rapist?
Don't you know how to fucking read or something?
The article clearly states that he was convicted supposedly because he was running a child pornography site, not because he raped some kids.

Child pornography =/= Rape
The sentence for the two are completely different and in different leagues.
Get your fucking facts straight, people, seriously.

And I'm not defending the guy, I'm just sick of constantly hearing everyone say "rape" over and over again, where the article has absolutely 0 mentions about that.

leerz · Apr 24, 2017

DinohScene said:
Banning someone over, what could very well have been false accusations could lead to some unrest.
Especially someone that previously was so high regarded in the 3DS scene.
Waiting and letting justice take care of it before taking a site related action is indeed a good choice!

However, I personally thing the Dazozo story is far less severe then The Cruel's.
But eh, I'm no judge.

Edit: worded it a bit better.
I'm not defending the person in question!

Detail re dazAzzo pls?

Subtle Demise · Apr 24, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
Why are people saying he's a child rapist?
Don't you know how to fucking read or something?
The article clearly states that he was convicted supposedly because he was running a child pornography site, not because he raped some kids.

Child pornography =/= Rape
The sentence for the two are completely different and in different leagues.
Get your fucking facts straight, people, seriously.

And I'm not defending the guy, I'm just sick of constantly hearing everyone say "rape" over and over again, where the article has absolutely 0 mentions about that.

Hosting and watching it creates more demand for it, and when there's more demand, they have to make more...

ShadowOne333 · Apr 24, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
Hosting and watching it creates more demand for it, and when there's more demand, they have to make more...

And since when pornographic imagery is considered rape?
That's a completely different case.
Unless the child is brutely forced and/or being depicted having sexual intercourse with an adult, it's not considered rape in court.

Deleted-355425 · Apr 24, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
And since when pornographic imagery is considered rape?
That's a completely different case.
Unless the child is brutely forced and/or being depicted having sexual intercourse with an adult, it's not considered rape in court.

Sex with a child/minor IS classed as rape.

Subtle Demise · Apr 24, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
And since when pornographic imagery is considered rape?
That's a completely different case.
Unless the child is brutely forced and/or being depicted having sexual intercourse with an adult, it's not considered rape in court.

I know, but children should be children and shouldn't have to be subjected to that shit in the first place.

ShadowOne333 · Apr 24, 2017

mech said:
Sex with a child/minor IS classed as rape.

Yes but you have to take into consideration that pornographic imagery is not rape per-se unless the child is depicted having sexual intercourse.
I fail to see how you automatically relate porn with sex.
Porn can be accounted to only images of nude people, not specifically having sex.

Still, that doesn't change the fact that he got convicted for hosting a child pornography site, not actually slaving children to do so.
Do not put false statements to the case.

Meteor7 · Apr 24, 2017

V0ltr0n said:
It is not biologically programmed in the brain to seek out a minor for sexual activity. It is a mental disorder. One that should be cured by execution when found out. Just my opinion, but anyone that sees a child and thinks "oh thats hot, i'd like a piece of that" should get help. Help into the afterlife by public execution. Pedos should not be tolerated or understood in any way. Just put them down like the rabid dogs they are and be done with it.

Actually, a large portion of models are teenagers, with the average age being around 17. Looking at global culture in general, it also appears that many more people are attracted to <18 people (of both sexes by both sexes) than would ever admit it. Besides that, it does make biological sense, as the human body goes through puberty (a.k.a. the time when nature says "it's time to reproduce") at around 10-14 for girls and 12-16 for boys.

That's NOT to speak in defense of relations between a minor and an adult, however, as there seems to be a lot of complicated psychology that can go on in that situation in terms of an imbalance of power that I don't completely understand. It's entirely possible, even likely, that abuse and an unhealthy relationship can arise because of it. Besides, if the minor in question is young enough, they could easily be "persuaded" into a position they wouldn't otherwise want to be in via lies, coercion, and manipulation. This becomes an even more sinister problem as, depending on the situation, a minor who has been abused could end up testifying in court that it was a "consensual" relationship and that they "wanted it" as an effect of minor Stockholm's syndrome, at which point abuse becomes increasingly hard to prove, if at all possible. That could make protecting minors from rape-like situations exponentially more difficult, which would be terrible.

Manurocker95 · Apr 24, 2017

Don't judge me but I really think this post is really unnecessary. FreeShop thread was filled with this kind of shit and people was like wow, as he is a pedo, his shit is not worth at all and that's not the case. He was one of the best programmers that has contributed in 3DS Scene. He did not do things well, OK, but we don't need to have 2394838574934 threads about it. Sorry if someone gets offended with this, I'm just sick about this topic.

StarTrekVoyager · Apr 24, 2017

Meteor7 said:
Actually, a large portion of models are teenagers, with the average age being around 17. Looking at global culture in general, it also appears that many more people are attracted to <18 people (of both sexes by both sexes) than would ever admit it. Besides that, it does make biological sense, as the human body goes through puberty (a.k.a. the time when nature says "it's time to reproduce") at around 10-14 for girls and 12-16 for boys.

That's NOT to speak in defense of relations between a minor and an adult, however, as there seems to be a lot of complicated psychology that can go on in that situation in terms of an imbalance of power that I don't completely understand. It's entirely possible, even likely, that abuse and an unhealthy relationship can arise because of it. Besides, if the minor in question is young enough, they could easily be "persuaded" into a position they wouldn't otherwise want to be in via lies, coercion, and manipulation. This becomes an even more sinister problem as, depending on the situation, a minor who has been abused could end up testifying in court that it was a "consensual" relationship and that they "wanted it" as an effect of minor Stockholm's syndrome, at which point abuse becomes increasingly hard to prove, if at all possible. That could make protecting minors from rape-like situations exponentially more difficult, which would be terrible.

Indeed, and sexual relation with a minor litteraly always happen, especially in high school. That's not true that the human brain suddenly becomes 'able to consent' in a femtosecond when you turn 18. And actually, couples between a 18-yo and a 17-yo must be really common.

Subtle Demise · Apr 24, 2017

ShadowOne333 said:
Yes but you have to take into consideration that pornographic imagery is not rape per-se unless the child is depicted having sexual intercourse.
I fail to see how you automatically relate porn with sex.
Porn can be accounted to only images of nude people, not specifically having sex.

Still, that doesn't change the fact that he got convicted for hosting a child pornography site, not actually slaving children to do so.
Do not put false statements to the case.

Fact is children get victimized to make this stuff in most cases. Also, I don't know if you have children, but when I hear about something bad happening to a child, I can't help but imagine if it were one of mine and it's probably the worst feeling in the world.

Costello · Apr 24, 2017

there are a bunch of people saying "this info has nothing to do on GBAtemp"
and another bunch saying "about damn time"

where do we stand, GBAtemp, as a team? again, several of us agreed with the first option above, but personally I just couldn't stand to see idiotic things like "GBAtemp tried to cover the information" anymore. The moment we were accused this became about us too, and it would just be too unfair to let this go unanswered.

if you are unhappy please explain yourself but be fair and don't blow this out of proportion. We are completely transparent so anything you want to know will be answered.

gamefan5 · Apr 24, 2017

Subtle Demise said:
Fact is children get victimized to make this stuff in most cases. Also, I don't know if you have children, but when I hear about something bad happening to a child, I can't help but imagine if it were one of mine and it's probably the worst feeling in the world.

It is. But feelings doesn't mean that your argument is sound. ShadowOne is right in analyzing this case.

Meteor7 · Apr 24, 2017

Costello said:
there are a bunch of people saying "this info has nothing to do on GBAtemp"
and another bunch saying "about damn time"

where do we stand, GBAtemp, as a team? again, several of us agreed with the first option above, but personally I just couldn't stand to see idiotic things like "GBAtemp tried to cover the information" anymore. The moment we were accused this became about us too, and it would just be too unfair to let this go unanswered.

if you are unhappy please explain yourself but be fair and don't blow this out of proportion. We are completely transparent so anything you want to know will be answered.

Considering how close this was to our community, I think reporting on it here was justified.

Costello · Apr 24, 2017

alex61194 said:
maybe what im going to say wont like you guys but just a question why ban a person for that i mean is horrible of course but have nothing to do with gbatemp and you even said in gbatemp he did nothing wrong

This is our stance. We believe rapists do not have their place on the site, same as murderers, and all other convicted criminals. So when we heard he was convicted, we decided to ban him.

GBAtemp is an independent community but that doesn't mean everyone has the right to access it. There are rules, which we (the team) come up with, and enforce.

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