p1ng's Nintendo Switch hands-on impressions



Hi guys, I recorded a quick audio log of my thoughts immediately after attending the Nintendo switch hands on preview. The footage taken is from my phone and nothing special, just filler for the sake of showing what the event was like that is relooped halfway through.



I also just saw the prices of the switch peripherals and games, frankly I was disgusted. I felt that I needed to record an extra ten minutes of audio to voice my concerns. The prices for the games and accessories for the switch are purely Nintendo gouging its fanbase. Nothing can justify the prices here, in my opinion if these prices are not lowered by a good 30% across the board the switch is DOA and will fail.
 

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To be fair.. I never charge the Tablet while playing. I play... Finish my round *or admitidly if the tablet dies, put it on charge long enough to save* and then you know.. Exit the game and put the tablet on charge.

And why arn't you bitching about the Xbox 360 and Xbone controllers? They don't have rechargable batteries at all *Unless you pay extra* And are 60 fricken dollars in on itself, and it sure as hell has less tech than the Joycons or Pro Controller for the switch. Hell.. It has less tech in it than the DS3/4 does.. So why the hell do they cost 60 dollars?
 
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To be fair.. I never charge the Tablet while playing. I play... Finish my round *or admitidly if the tablet dies, put it on charge long enough to save* and then you know.. Exit the game and put the tablet on charge.

And why arn't you bitching about the Xbox 360 and Xbone controllers? They don't have rechargable batteries at all *Unless you pay extra* And are 60 fricken dollars in on itself, and it sure as hell has less tech than the Joycons or Pro Controller for the switch. Hell.. It has less tech in it than the DS3/4 does.. So why the hell do they cost 60 dollars?
Um.....because they have good battery life
 

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Play and charge is important if you do not want to leave your controllers to charge every single time you leave them on the console for many hours on end.
Charging often is the expected usage of modern battery technology. E.g. smartphones. So yes, this is expected.
Leaving them overnight or for a prolonged period of time will kill their battery life sooner
This is a myth based on how battery technology from the 90s worked. Please update to the present times.
If 20 hours "is enough" why Nintendo provides a play and charge kit then?
If there are consumers willing to pay for it, Nintendo will milk the oportunity for sure.
Also did you think about having more than a pair of joycons, perhaps you play with your family games like ARMS, well sure you will want to have a place to charge the second set of joycons.
How do you feel about charging the WiiU pad while playing?
Horrible, the cable gets in the way all the time. It is not comfortable.
Of course I have the very first version of the Wii U pad that has an even worse battery life, so I end up doing that sometimes, but I hate it.
I never do that with my Xbox One controller, the idea of wireless controlers if to avoid using wires.
 

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20 hours is plenty enough battery life for controllers, I think Switch is actually brilliantly designed in this regard. Joy cons recharge the second you slot them back into Switch itself. Charge time to full is about 3.5 hours, and that's the battery life you can likely expect from Switch (up to 6, depending on game). Basically unlimited wireless play available if you "switch" modes.
 
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20 hours is plenty enough battery life for controllers, I think Switch is actually brilliantly designed in this regard. Joy cons recharge the second you slot them back into Switch itself. Charge time to full is about 3.5 hours, and that's the battery life you can likely expect from Switch (up to 6, depending on game). Basically unlimited wireless play available if you "switch" modes.
Haha nice pun.
 
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20 hours is plenty enough battery life for controllers, I think Switch is actually brilliantly designed in this regard. Joy cons recharge the second you slot them back into Switch itself. Charge time to full is about 3.5 hours, and that's the battery life you can likely expect from Switch (up to 6, depending on game). Basically unlimited wireless play available if you "switch" modes.
Wow 20 hours. That's nice.
 

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Charging often is the expected usage of modern battery technology. E.g. smartphones. So yes, this is expected.

This is a myth based on how battery technology from the 90s worked. Please update to the present times.

If there are consumers willing to pay for it, Nintendo will milk the oportunity for sure.
Also did you think about having more than a pair of joycons, perhaps you play with your family games like ARMS, well sure you will want to have a place to charge the second set of joycons.

Horrible, the cable gets in the way all the time. It is not comfortable.
Of course I have the very first version of the Wii U pad that has an even worse battery life, so I end up doing that sometimes, but I hate it.
I never do that with my Xbox One controller, the idea of wireless controlers if to avoid using wires.

I never said charging often is the problem. I said leaving the on the charger while being fully charged is a problem and not, this is not expected, or has to do with modern battery technology. As soon as something is finished charging, you can prolong the battery life but unplugging the charger. Unless they build a really good battery life saving system that does not start recharging as soon as the battery reaches 99%, you are looking at long term batter life issues.

This is exactly what my rant is about. Nintendo milking us. I am fine with milking for the console price, but when something is obviously not included by default it is outraging. The idea that a second pair of joycons need a charger as well, makes this even bigger. Hell, we do not even have a single point of charging, let alone 2?

Playing with the cable plugged in is not ideal, but it can provide uninterrupted gaming... That is my whole point. I completely agree that the idea of wireless controllers is to avoid cables but it is good to be able to continue when you are shit out of battery.

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To be fair.. I never charge the Tablet while playing. I play... Finish my round *or admitidly if the tablet dies, put it on charge long enough to save* and then you know.. Exit the game and put the tablet on charge.

And why arn't you bitching about the Xbox 360 and Xbone controllers? They don't have rechargable batteries at all *Unless you pay extra* And are 60 fricken dollars in on itself, and it sure as hell has less tech than the Joycons or Pro Controller for the switch. Hell.. It has less tech in it than the DS3/4 does.. So why the hell do they cost 60 dollars?

Just because MS is milking the cow, does it suddenly become ok for nintendo to do the same? I never said i like the xbox controller so much, did i? Microsoft is indeed milking the cow too, BUT, if you want to ONLY buy the console and not any other accessory at all, you can plug a cable and play plugged in... Which is what i am talking about. all i am saying is, that the base Switch unit for me is missing critical functionality (personally speaking of course) by not giving you a way to play without interruptions at all. All because they did not drill a hole and put a plug.

On the other hand, think of it this way too. Microsoft gives you a battery operated controller and when you buy the play and charge kit they sell you the battery & the cable. Nintendo is selling you the battery *anyway*, they just took the ability to charge it while playing just to get more money out of pretty basic functionality. If you had to use batteries (like the wii remotes for example) i would not care a single bit. Now i do, because they are supplied with their own battery. I hope this makes sense.

At the end of the day, i do not expect Nintendo to do all the wrong moves their competitors did. I expect them to do whatever is the best right now, then excel on top of it. And we are only talking about basic accessory handling here...
 
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I never said charging often is the problem. I said leaving the on the charger while being fully charged is a problem and not, this is not expected, or has to do with modern battery technology. As soon as something is finished charging, you can prolong the battery life but unplugging the charger. Unless they build a really good battery life saving system that does not start recharging as soon as the battery reaches 99%, you are looking at long term batter life issues.
Ok but consider this... Batteries that charge until 100% and then don't get touched by the charger after that. Considering it actually physically plugs into the console and has data pins as well as voltage pins, that's probably what they're doing
 

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Ok but consider this... Batteries that charge until 100% and then don't get touched by the charger after that. Considering it actually physically plugs into the console and has data pins as well as voltage pins, that's probably what they're doing
That is what I meant by modern battery technology, almost every Li-Ion charger nowadays works like that. And not only that, they have different current profiles depending on the charge level of the battery to improve battery life.
Chargers nowadays are "intelligent", microcontrollers today cost cents, it's not the 90s.
 
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That is what I meant by modern battery technology, almost every Li-Ion charger nowadays works like that. And not only that, they have different current profiles depending on the charge level of the battery to improve battery life.
Chargers nowadays are "intelligent", microcontrollers today cost cents, it's not the 90s.
I know that's what you meant ;)
 

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Wow that blow up fast.

About the joy-con battery life 20hrs is enough, the charge grip isnto charge the joy-con while your playing.
Same as charging a ps4 or xbox controller.

And i really do believe nintendo is making moves in the right way.
But i wont sot here an argue with others about it.
Thats just what i see.
There price point is good.
The game line up could be way better but wewill see what happen in the furture
 
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Question. Do we know if the Switch's UI has background music/noise? I'm a sucker for console menus with background music. Wii spoiled me. Consoles without background noise just feel...dead.
There is a phone app for that called Spotify. That's the Ninty way.
 
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Yeah I have had my TV output through a hifi for years at this point. I will give it might be hard to sync that to the menu but if you are spending enough time there to matter then yeah.
Anyway on the day I tried to get a look at menus and anything like that, everything however was blocked. Don't know if anybody has since got a look at it but if we are only going by the demo then not much to say.
 

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Ok but consider this... Batteries that charge until 100% and then don't get touched by the charger after that. Considering it actually physically plugs into the console and has data pins as well as voltage pins, that's probably what they're doing

That is what I meant by modern battery technology, almost every Li-Ion charger nowadays works like that. And not only that, they have different current profiles depending on the charge level of the battery to improve battery life.
Chargers nowadays are "intelligent", microcontrollers today cost cents, it's not the 90s.

I am well aware of intelligent chargers. What i am not sure about is if the one Nintendo will use is intelligent enough or not and seeing how frugal they went in pretty much every possible way trying to save everywhere (personal opinion ding ding!) i seriously doubt it. Let's hope it is though. I think the WiiU controller's is.
 

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I am well aware of intelligent chargers. What i am not sure about is if the one Nintendo will use is intelligent enough or not and seeing how frugal they went in pretty much every possible way trying to save everywhere (personal opinion ding ding!) i seriously doubt it. Let's hope it is though. I think the WiiU controller's is.
They didn't cheap out on the technology, they just didn't throw all of their money into moar powar. Why do you think the joycons are so expensive? It's not because Nintendo cheaped out on them, it's because they put a lot of technology in them.
 

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They didn't cheap out on the technology, they just didn't throw all of their money into moar powar. Why do you think the joycons are so expensive? It's not because Nintendo cheaped out on them, it's because they put a lot of technology in them.


Hey hey hey! Nintendo is too damn expensive that they are to damn cheap! i mean how dare the 40 dollar joycon have an entire fucking kinect in it, new form of rumble, IR, Gyroscopes... But my 60 dollar Xbone controller doesn't have -any- new tech in it?! I love to rub my Xbone controller all over me cause it's sooo expensive... and not expensive in a cheep way! *Any Xbone owner dissing the price of a Joycon right now... Oh yes.. The xbone controllers DON'T EVEN HAVE A FUCKING RECHARGABLE BATTERY!*
 

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