What's Next for Nintendo?

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With the unfortunate and untimely passing of Satoru Iwata two weeks ago, Nintendo is left in quite a bit of flux at present. It's sad, too, that Iwata had to pass on a rather flat note in his career and with so much vitriol from fans - the Nintendo 3DS, while successful, had nothing on the Nintendo DS, and the Wii U is considered a commercial failure, having not met its market reach due to the rise in tablets that have come out from other manufacturers. We saw Nintendo get completely crushed at E3 in comparison to Microsoft with their advances in virtual reality technology and with their XBOX One actually gaining steam, and with Sony's gigantic reveals of Final Fantasy VII and Shenmue III. They can only go up from there, which in comparison to their confidence at E3 2014, is flat out disappointing. With the announcement of the partnership between mobile company DeNA and Nintendo, along with the whispers of the new Nintendo console, code named the NX, where does Nintendo hope to go from here without the head of the serpent, who has been leading Nintendo through some of the finest ages of modern gaming to date?

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To say that Nintendo suffered a terrible loss two weeks ago is an understatement. It's something that not only hurts Nintendo, but the gaming industry as a whole. We all saw those great tributes respecting him. But not only did they lose a relatively successful president, they lost a gamer at heart who understood his audience. It's not every day you have a corporate executive reaching out to an audience in the way that he did, in moves such as the Iwata Asks interview series or his Nintendo Directs. Who doesn't remember Iwata opening up a brand new Wii U console in full suit and white surgical gloves? In terms of video gaming CEOs, who seem to have (in my opinion) forgotten about what makes video games fun in the first place, Iwata was a one of a kind individual. Finding someone next in line who can live up to that is going to be damning difficult, and quite frankly a lot of people are spooked that this successor will not be up to par in comparison with what Satoru Iwata has accomplished in over a decade of work. So, who are the two most likely successors at this point?

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At this point in the game, the two biggest faces that Nintendo has in terms of a new president are in the form of Genyo Takeda, the general manager of Nintendo's research division, and Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo's ace card and, pretty much, the legend behind the most popular series and the king of first party games.

When people hear Genyo Takeda, they ask, "who's this guy?" Genyo Takeda is one of the reasons why the Nintendo Wii was so successful - he pushed to have the user interface completely revamped and in doing so, helped bring about motion technology gaming. From what reports have said about Takeda, though, he's a tad unpopular over in Japan, and he's also 66 years old at present - something that may make him not exactly the most primed for leading a huge gaming behemoth such as Nintendo. He does however, have additional ways to spice up his image, as he was Nintendo's first developer, having created titles such as EVR Race, as well as the main force behind why players were able to save their games in The Legend of Zelda (Source). This guy has the corporate sense, though, and for a lot of people, that's what's important.

And then, we have Shigeru Miyamoto. I'm pretty sure we don't need to introduce him, as almost everyone who's played video games has probably heard of him in some way, shape, or form. With his extensive resume and his vast successes at Nintendo, it's no wonder that people are clamoring for Miyamoto to take up the helm at Nintendo. While I find him to be a decent choice, his skills to me are much better in leading for software development. I don't quite know how Miyamoto would work leading, and quite frankly, a lot of people agree that Miyamoto may end up being a disastrous corporate figure.

So there we have it; we have two men who are two sides of the coin that can essentially fulfill each other's weaknesses. And they are, right now, co-running Nintendo as Representative Directors. While Miyamoto is an excellent software head, his corporate leadership skills may not be up to par as much as Genyo Takeda. With Takeda being a good business executive, albeit an unpopular one, he is most likely going to be the one who takes the position as President of Nintendo.

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That unfortunately leaves the big question still unanswered - where does Nintendo go from there? With the Nintendo NX still shrouded in secrecy (but it did leave a positive impression to investors at E3 this year), and with the details of the partnership with DeNA so left out in the air for speculation, Nintendo is in a bit of a bind. One of my biggest fears with Nintendo is that they get a new president who starts to follow the path that a lot of companies seem to follow as of late - rehashing the same types of games for an artificial sense of profit, while at the same time, distancing themselves from their audience. More uninspired Super Mario rehashes. Honestly, I’m getting a bit tired of the “New” Super Mario Bros. Line. That’s just me though. Looking at the record, following the death of Steve Jobs at Apple, a lot of their products are losing their extravagant flair that they seem to have had - gone are the unpredictable days of innovation and in are the days where the latest technology is going to be thinner, a little bit faster, and glossed over. You hear "ONE MORE THING" and you don't see something great anymore. With Nintendo, this same logic could end up applying, and it could be disastrous for fans who wanted something more. It also doesn't do anyone any favors when their board of directors is so bent on living in the past. Living in the past and failing to embrace modern gaming is something that isn't going to end well. The recent changes to the Nintendo Miiverse (no more social media and post count per day restriction, really?), the lack of voice chat for their games, the vitriol with regards to Metroid Prime: Federation Forces, the lack of releases for the Nintendo Wii U this year, combined with the fact that Satoru Iwata is now no longer with us, it's going to be a rough time for Nintendo moving forward.

That leads to another side divergent topic. I've been reading a lot of comments following Iwata's death that seem to praise his passing, with people cheering on his death as a sign that Nintendo will finally move out of the stone age. After reading a few interviews that took place with Dan Adelman, former independent gaming chief at Nintendo, and seeing how hierarchical Japanese society is, it's no surprise that things like this take a long time to move (Source). Apparently, to get something started, it has to get a vast majority of the stockholders and the board of directors to agree upon it, and that's no easy feat. All it takes, summing it broadly, is one no, and the project is a bust. Risk taking is not rewarded. From what interviews have been painting, Iwata was one of the forces of change within Nintendo, not the reason why Nintendo is holding back from its core audience. With that being kept in mind, I don't necessarily think that Nintendo is going to suddenly change its ways as quickly as some gamers seem to imagine. And don't get me wrong, I want to see a more modernized Nintendo going forward.

Nintendo is at a crossroad right now - a crossroad that can see them blow our socks off at the next E3 with the revelation of the Nintendo NX console, or left in the dust as they fall into mediocrity - with the failure of the Wii U. And it doesn't get worse than this, Nintendo. Get your head out of the gutter, and impress us. With the passing of Satoru Iwata, while I have hopes for the future, I'm left hanging in fear a little bit as a company that has since dominated my household since I was a child could fall into a rut that they just might not make it out of. Will I ever see anything as maddening as the reveal of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess from 2004, again? You guys nailed it at E3 last year, and so what, you fell this year. Everyone falls once in a while, pull yourself together and get up!

What are your guys' thoughts on this? Nintendo's good to go forward? Falling forever into its rut? Somewhere in between? Let me know what you think!
 

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Nintendo is defintetly in a peculiar position. From here on, it's either fame or fail. New management might mean newer ideas for the company and taking bolder moves or they might be stuck up in old traditional monotonous 'safety'.
 

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Even if Nintendo takes a business model like MS/Sony or similar, there is no guarantee that it will be a succeed, in my opinion Nintendo is... that, Nintendo, as long they can put one of their products in a house where there is Xone/PS4 they are happy.

For them high or low 3rd party support is not something that bother them.
 

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I stopped reading once you said he was in touch with gaming. I call BS on that.

Nintendo is way out of touch with modern gaming. Nintendo is the Sega of this and last Generation....only worse and not as fun.

I feel like all the current leadership of the Company needs to get fired or demoted back to designing games. Let someone else lead the charge and make the decisions about their next systems and online.
 
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I can see why people would say this for games like MP10, but not every game will have amiibo support (XCX, in Japan at least, doesn't) and for things like Smash, the idea that they had wouldn't really work any other way, you fight against an amibo to level to amiibo up and then you could bring that amiibo to a friends house and then have a 2v2 with his amiibo. I've done it, it was pretty fun, but it wouldn't have really worked or been as fun if they were just shareable online fighters or however else they would've been implemented.
The thing is the Amiibo AI is much more advanced than the Lvl.9 Computer AI. Amiibos locked away this part of the game which would have been a great addition to smash's multiplayer as Lvl.9 Bots tend to be way too easy.
And what you mentioned would be as easily possible on the 3DS.
 

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Shigeru Miyamoto should take over President in my mind with asap, no other deserves the position and he knows best, well say no more than the Mario Maker! the mans on fire in my opinion and I reckon he would take Nintendo to different heights & levels!!!
 

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Shigeru Miyamoto should take over President in my mind with asap, no other deserves the position and he knows best, well say no more than the Mario Maker! the mans on fire in my opinion and I reckon he would take Nintendo to different heights & levels!!!
I disagree. Nintendo needs someone who has a clear vision of the future not someone who loves to delve in the past and is probably better off designing fun games than leading the entirety of Nintendo.
 
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I disagree. Nintendo needs someone who has a clear vision of the future not someone who loves to delve in the past and is probably better off designing fun games than leading the entirety of Nintendo.

I concur. Miyamoto is too old fashioned to make the company successful again. They used to be on top in the 80s when gaming was still new and was more about 'fun'. Gaming isn't about how fun it is anymore, at least not to most people. IT's about the experience and the competition now. Miyamoto isn't the person to do that, he cares only about how fun a game is, and that is why the wii and Wii U were the lowest sellers of either generation. Miyamoto and Iwata were and are visionaries of video games, but their time has passed. They need someone who will see nintendo into the modern era.
 
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The Wii was the highest seller of it's generation though. http://puu.sh/jeBLG/239a56132d.png

What year were those statistics published?

But I get that more families bought the Wii, but the gaming crowd panned the Wii as just a kiddie console for families and grandmas. We know there's a lot of great hidden gems on it now, which is why it became successful over time. But for a long time it was losing to the other two.

But I've got to give it to nintendo. They didn't really have many third party publishers due to the nature and the lower power of the Wii, but they still managed to make it a very successful console overall. Kudos to them for that. They basically sold the system nearly entirely on First party games.

Nintendo need some new IPs that real gamers will enjoy and get drawn into. Splatoon was a pretty good start.
 

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They just need to try again with their next console.

Have some Triple-A titles ready at launch. Launch the console with an extensive library of Virtual Console games. Restore franchises to their former glory. Treat their own Intellectual Properties equally. Reserve major first party games to a dedicated platform (don't piss people off by putting Super Mario Galaxy 3 or a real Metroid on Smartphone).

They can keep attaching gimmicks to their consoles as long as it's 100% optional, and the console still has respectable power. I've had no better pleasure with my Wii U by shutting the Game Pad off before it connects to the console and just using the Pro Controller to play my games.
 

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Really I don't know, half of me actually likes this behind the times/off the track Nintendo style, I always enjoyed the gimmicky Wii!
..Do we really want yet another PlayStation/Xbox? It's looking highly likely NX is gonna be just that, and while the other half of me shall be waiting with baited breath to see the quality of games only Nin can push out, on proper hardware, yeah that first half of me will be a little bit sad seeing the old Nin go... I'm all for a bog that quickly, quietly gets rid of yer shit with no fuss, but one that turns your bathroom lights off for a laugh everytime you flush it, come on we all want that! :D (...Anyone??)

Whatever happens, Shigsy ain't the man for the job in my opinion. Sorry Iwata, RIP man, but like he said himself, he was a gamer, or rather a game designer - these people don't make CEO's of massive companies.... Stick him in as an interim, just to get a bit of balance back in the company, sure, but not long term...
 
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Even if Nintendo takes a business model like MS/Sony or similar, there is no guarantee that it will be a succeed, in my opinion Nintendo is... that, Nintendo, as long they can put one of their products in a house where there is Xone/PS4 they are happy. For them high or low 3rd party support is not something that bother them.
So you want them to manufacture products that are destined to be additions to actual gaming rigs and not the primary entertainment devices? That's a bit grim.
 

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The thing is the Amiibo AI is much more advanced than the Lvl.9 Computer AI. Amiibos locked away this part of the game which would have been a great addition to smash's multiplayer as Lvl.9 Bots tend to be way too easy.
And what you mentioned would be as easily possible on the 3DS.
amiibo aren't 'advanced' their cheap and are 'better' because they actually get better stats as they level up. lvl 9's can be hard if you don't spam smash attacks especially since their air dodges are way more precise than any human's + lvl 9s are getting better almost every patch.

DIY lvl 9 with amiibo level skill
make a custom fighter that has ~+50 in each category.
choose that fighter for the CPU and set it to level 9.
Done.
 

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amiibo aren't 'advanced' their cheap and are 'better' because they actually get better stats as they level up. lvl 9's can be hard if you don't spam smash attacks especially since their air dodges are way more precise than any human's + lvl 9s are getting better almost every patch.

DIY lvl 9 with amiibo level skill
make a custom fighter that has ~+50 in each category.
choose that fighter for the CPU and set it to level 9.
Done.
While that may be true, the bigger challenge of an amiibo is the fact that it learns from your style of play, essentially challenging you to play against your own tactics.

My level 50 Pit amiibo combos air throws with projectile follow ups and Aerial juggling the same way I do, it's quite amusing to see people play against.
 
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lvl 9's can be hard if you don't spam smash attacks
So basically LVL 9 are only hard if I cripple my playstyle.
Sorry but stats isn't the only thing an Amiibo benefits from. The AI is much better at using all the abilities they have.
I never saw a Lvl 9 Link being so good at blocking, grabbing and performing it's smashes. The amiibo pulls is a beast at doing those things.
Amiibo are locking away a very good AI behind a paywall and we shouldn't have to circumvent it to get similar experience. That's just not alright.
In a ideal world Amiibo AI would be in the game from the get go and if you would like to take it to a friend you would buy the figurines, not what Nintendo is currently doing.
 

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Awesome, not-blinded-by-fanboyism article! I think the phrase "adapt or die" comes to mind with Nintendo's current situation.


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I need to remind several people of this: If Nintendo produces a powerful console, it doesn't mean Nintendo will stop being Nintendo. Smash, Mario Kart, Pikmin, Star Fox, etc will still be made for it. After all, isn't that why we buy Nintendo consoles?
 
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Quite frankly I don't think Nintendo can get out of the shit slump their home consoles have been in since the N64 days. What I want Nintendo to do is completely abandoned the home console market in it's entirety, and put all the R&D money and time into making the bombest-ass portable in existence. Out of everything Nintendo has done, their handhelds have been consistently well done (at least, to a point. They sort of peaked at the DS, and the 3DS isn't nearly as well received as the DS was).

Other third party handheld developers have already shown you can pack a good amount of power into a portable device (albeit, Android is gimping most of it and there isn't a single Android game that makes use of it efficiently), I don't see why Nintendo couldn't take some high-powered SoC, throw it in a nice Vita-styled handheld and shit out their Mario and Zelda and Pogymanz game onto it. They could put an HDMI output on it, or play around with screen casting technologies they've used with the Wii U Gamepad to give it that "handheld but also home!" feel. Have them sink half their R&D into getting battery technologies in a good place, and bam you have the perfect handheld and the perfect "side-along" console to the Xbox's and Playstation's. Take a little bit of a loss, Nintendo, price your shit in an "affordable" range, and make all the money in the world off of all the third parties sucking your dick to develop for such a god tier system.

But this is Nintendo we're talking about, so I'm sure the NX will be a floppy potato that only the Nintendo fans bother with that will fail just as hard as the Wii U.
 

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Quite frankly I don't think Nintendo can get out of the shit slump their home consoles have been in since the N64 days. What I want Nintendo to do is completely abandoned the home console market in it's entirety, and put all the R&D money and time into making the bombest-ass portable in existence. Out of everything Nintendo has done, their handhelds have been consistently well done (at least, to a point. They sort of peaked at the DS, and the 3DS isn't nearly as well received as the DS was).

Other third party handheld developers have already shown you can pack a good amount of power into a portable device (albeit, Android is gimping most of it and there isn't a single Android game that makes use of it efficiently), I don't see why Nintendo couldn't take some high-powered SoC, throw it in a nice Vita-styled handheld and shit out their Mario and Zelda and Pogymanz game onto it. They could put an HDMI output on it, or play around with screen casting technologies they've used with the Wii U Gamepad to give it that "handheld but also home!" feel. Have them sink half their R&D into getting battery technologies in a good place, and bam you have the perfect handheld and the perfect "side-along" console to the Xbox's and Playstation's. Take a little bit of a loss, Nintendo, price your shit in an "affordable" range, and make all the money in the world off of all the third parties sucking your dick to develop for such a god tier system.

But this is Nintendo we're talking about, so I'm sure the NX will be a floppy potato that only the Nintendo fans bother with that will fail just as hard as the Wii U.

NX is going to be a hybrid, confirmed by Iwata himself:

"Though I cannot confirm when it will be launched or any other details of the system, since I have confirmed that it will be 'a dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept,' it should mean that we do not intend it to become a simple 'replacement' for Nintendo 3DS or Wii U," Iwata explained.

Notice the bold part. If it was a console, then why say "3DS or Wii U"? He would've just said "It won't become a simple replacement for Wii U".

He told us what it is indirectly.
 

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