Halo: The Master Chief Collection Requires 20GB Update

chartube12 · Oct 20, 2014

Blu ray licensing fees are still 4 times the price of DVDs. Microsoft isn't stupid. Bandwidth cost vs a second DL bluy ray disc. Unless they changed their plans, they are already having dedicated xbone servers for each halo games' multiplayer playlist of this collection. That's even more money they are spending. It's likely they figured out a hit in bandwidth fees was better then having to pay the blu ray foundation more money. Don't forget Sony's a key part of said foundation. Why would you want to give your competitor extra money when you don't have to? Plus it has already been shown when ever a halo comes out, xbox sales and gold subs get a big spike for 1-3 months. The gold subs and xbone sales may make up just enough of the bandwidth cost.

FusionGamer · Oct 21, 2014

And people complain about a hypothetical 1GB mandatory update for Mario Kart 8? (The DLC)

Jiro2 · Oct 21, 2014

Zanoab said:
The 20GB is multiplayer content. If Xbox Live goes down, you won't be able to play multiplayer anyways.

But what does a "mandatoiry patch" mean? If it can't even start to download the patch, will it still run, so you can play it single-player? Or will it just refuse to run unless you are connected and downloading the patch, in which case the disk will be a coaster once Xbox Live is taken offline?

Arras · Oct 21, 2014

Jiro2 said:
But what does a "mandatoiry patch" mean? If it can't even start to download the patch, will it still run, so you can play it single-player? Or will it just refuse to run unless you are connected and downloading the patch, in which case the disk will be a coaster once Xbox Live is taken offline?

Chances are it'll just work, but without multiplayer until you download and install the patch.

Sakitoshi · Oct 22, 2014

raulpica said:
360 used DVD-DLs which are dirt-cheap, One uses BluRay discs which cost quite a bit more. Multiply that for a few hundreds of thousands of copies and that additional disc quickly adds up to the cost There you go.

then explain God of War complete collection. 6 games, 4 discs in a steelbook and only 5 bucks more costly than normal price.
by your logic then they should up the price to the double at least.
and you have Metal Gear legacy collection too. 2 discs and came with an artbook too and was priced lower than full price.

If you ask me about the decision of leaving the online only content as an update I say that is ok as long as is only that what is cut from the disc. if you don't want the online multiplayer simply don't update. but on the other hand I also think that the solution wasn't optimal and a second disc should have been better.

chartube12 · Oct 22, 2014

Sakitoshi said:
then explain God of War complete collection. 6 games, 4 discs in a steelbook and only 5 bucks more costly than normal price.
by your logic then they should up the price to the double at least.
and you have Metal Gear legacy collection too. 2 discs and came with an artbook too and was priced lower than full price.

You just named two Playstation Titles. Sony isn't going to charge themselves highly more for blu ray usage. Even if they have to pay the other blu ray alliance guys a fee, it isn't going to be as high a fee as they would charge outsiders.

Sakitoshi · Oct 22, 2014

chartube12 said:
You just named two Playstation Titles. Sony isn't going to charge themselves highly more for blu ray usage. Even if they have to pay the other blu ray alliance guys a fee, it isn't going to be as high a fee as they would charge outsiders.

business are business and if Sony need to pay fees to himself they will do. also count that the Playstation section is like a separated company.
and come on, 4 discs and a steelbook or 2 discs and an artbook need to cost way more than 2 discs and a normal bluray box even without taking account the fees.
also, I didn't know Sony had the right of the Metal Gear saga, I though was Konami. :rolleyes:

Psionic Roshambo · Oct 24, 2014

I don't like day 1 patches for anything, but asking your customers to down a 20GB file for online.... Lets face it most Halo players love online PVP play. So for most of them that 20GB file is going to be mandatory.

Even on my connection that's still about 2 hours of a download, then if you happen to have a connection that has some sort of bandwidth limit. 20GB's for one game might be a bit rough.

I would say throw it on a 2nd disk and raise the price 5 bucks, still a fantastic deal your getting a lot of great games and all upgraded too. Besides with another 25GB's of space to play with, they could pack in some more content just to make the higher price even more worth it.

That's my 2 cents on the issue, that being said I doubt a 20GB download will stop Halo fans for very long.

Edit: Another thought crosses my mind, perhaps MS could have sold 2 editions, a "complete collectors edition" with some price premium with 2 disks, and the standard cheapo edition like it is now.

raulpica · Oct 24, 2014

Sakitoshi said:
then explain God of War complete collection. 6 games, 4 discs in a steelbook and only 5 bucks more costly than normal price.
by your logic then they should up the price to the double at least.
and you have Metal Gear legacy collection too. 2 discs and came with an artbook too and was priced lower than full price.

If you ask me about the decision of leaving the online only content as an update I say that is ok as long as is only that what is cut from the disc. if you don't want the online multiplayer simply don't update. but on the other hand I also think that the solution wasn't optimal and a second disc should have been better.

Sony is one of the biggest producers of BD-media out there (so they can get it from theirselves at COST), Microsoft isn't.

That should be enough

Adr990 · Oct 25, 2014

Seriously though... when is there gonna be a PC release?

The only reason for a XBONE would be Halo, otherwise a PS4 IMO.
And I don't want to buy either of them, I'll stick with the PC and Nintendo from now on.

WiiCube_2013 · Oct 25, 2014

FusionGamer said:
And people complain about a hypothetical 1GB mandatory update for Mario Kart 8? (The DLC)

That's because Wii U's got a stinking low storage of either 8GB or 32GBs which is tough on some owners.

Adr990 said:
Seriously though... when is there gonna be a PC release?

Without Halo then Microsoft wouldn't have a good reason to keep Xbox around.

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