A minor rant

[Xzi]

You need to add some sauce to that.

Starbucks, Chipotle, Trader Joe's, and Amazon have recently seen a rise in union activity, just to name a few. Google it if you're actually interested.

All three of the people I mentioned are leftists. If you think they are on the right or support Trump, you are more delusional than I thought.

Your understanding of the worldwide political paradigm is clearly lacking. Leftist =/= Democrat, and right-wing =/= Republican. The world is bigger, and history longer, than just the USA.

Fascism and communism is the consolidation of power.

The word you're looking for is "authoritarianism," and though it does tend to drift toward one or the other, it doesn't necessarily need to follow the tenets of either fascism or communism.

Look at China for proof.

China is an oligarchy, and it's exactly the type of model that billionaires would love to have come to the US.

 

[TraderPatTX]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/30/chi...s-is-still-growing-and-companies-want-in.html
think again.

That's pre-pandemic. Got anything more recent. The world has changed drastically since then.

Chinese companies, who are own by the CCP, can't even make debt payments.

https://www.scmp.com/business/compa...defaults-us139-million-bond-payment-debt-woes

 

[Deleted member 608654]

That's pre-pandemic. Got anything more recent. The world has changed drastically since then.

Chinese companies, who are own by the CCP, can't even make debt payments.

https://www.scmp.com/business/compa...defaults-us139-million-bond-payment-debt-woes

Well, the whole world is burning, so it doesn't look bad in comparison.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

China is an oligarchy, and it's exactly the type of model that billionaires would love to have come to the US.

Cbina is basically the asian russia and the wannabe America. Outside of major cities, the infrastructure is lacking. Most of the far reaches are sparsely inhabited and it only got rich after deng xiaoping advocated for western style capitalism to attract foreign investment.

 

[sombrerosonic]

U ok, u really taking getting banned from the PCSX2 discord hard @fdyyt

 

[Deleted member 608654]

U ok, u really taking getting banned from the PCSX2 discord hard @fdyyt

Well I consider GBAtemp as a consolation prize that's was better than the original reward. You get to have a wider audience for your views.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Well, the whole world is burning, so it doesn't look bad in comparison.

The world is not burning. People are waking up to what has been hidden for so long. Buckle up, it's gonna get wilder.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Cbina is basically the asian russia and the wannabe America. Outside of major cities, the infrastructure is lacking. Most of the far reaches are sparsely inhabited and it only got rich after deng xiaoping advocated for western style capitalism to attract foreign investment.

The CCP owns the means of production in China. They had to start practicing capitalism because communism is so expensive.

 

[sombrerosonic]

The world is not burning. People are waking up to what has been hidden for so long. Buckle up, it's gonna get wilder.

Cant wait, gonna get wackier than that one time i got stuck in a tube slide.

 

[Viri]

They can't. You're thinking of liberals and/or Democrats. Leftists are socialists, anarchists, communists, or some variation thereof.

Being an actual capitalist means owning a serious piece of the pie. Land and/or means of production. So millionaires/billionaires. Anybody in the middle or lower classes who calls themselves a "capitalist" is really just a sucker with Stockholm Syndrome.

Apparently they can bow to Monarchies!

Spoiler

Spoiler

"As a result, the Grenadian Communist Monarchy was toppled"

 

[tabzer]

True capitalism has never been tried before. There should be a separation of money and state.

 

[AlexMCS]

Derail successful I guess.
Either way, capitalism with "caps"/social capitalism would make the world a better place, but people would need to abandon their greed and think of others first, which is why it's as unlikely to happen as true communism.

 

[tabzer]

If it involves people, it's going to get the people treatment. As long as people believe in scarcity, you'll have hoarders creating scarcity. No matter the system, people are just going to have to collectively figure it out. Trying to enforce charity is just going to backfire, especially if it's wealthy and politically leveraged people doing it.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

If it involves people, it's going to get the people treatment. As long as people believe in scarcity, you'll have hoarders creating scarcity. No matter the system, people are just going to have to collectively figure it out. Trying to enforce charity is just going to backfire, especially if it's wealthy and politically leveraged people doing it.

Why does enforcing charity not work, and how can we alleviate scarcity? (I believe we can do the latter by simply being more efficient with our resources.

 

[Deleted member 608654]

Derail successful I guess.
Either way, capitalism with "caps"/social capitalism would make the world a better place, but people would need to abandon their greed and think of others first, which is why it's as unlikely to happen as true communism.

Greed is the main factor for economic growth, people want things to support their selfish needs and wants, I don't blame them, every living being is selfish one way or another for one reason: survival. I believe that the root of all selfishness is ignorance, if you believe that you matter more than others and do not learn about other perspectives, then you are very unlikely to think of the opportunity cost to others and yourself in the future. In order to reduce unhealthy greed, there should be an impartial moderator, like Singapore's government.

The difference between successful and unsuccessful dictatorships is that the former educates, not enslaves.

True communism believes that everyone is equal, under that logic, there should be no leaders to help guide the country and no incentive to improve in order to maintain the hierarchy.(or lack thereof) This has backfired immensely for china.
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-great-leap-forward-195154

 

[tabzer]

Why does enforcing charity not work, and how can we alleviate scarcity? (I believe we can do the latter by simply being more efficient with our resources.

Enforcing charity creates resentment and pressure, which will always seek an outlet. It maybe "okay" for a time, but then issues pop up, like Donald Trump becoming president (if that's an issue to you).

Alleviating scarcity would require people to change their minds about what's important. We are too busy focusing on sustaining a bloated "modern society". It's not something one person can tell (or command) all people and inspire change. People have to learn it. Scarcity-driven value incentivizes people to censor methods of efficiency btw (via law, media, domain, etc.).

I think tribalism and the decentralization of governments is inevitable. The more we try to fight that outcome, the harder it's going to be to adapt.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Why does enforcing charity not work, and how can we alleviate scarcity? (I believe we can do the latter by simply being more efficient with our resources.

Charity stops being charity if you are forced to do it. Charity is the act of voluntarily giving, not forcibly giving.

 

[Deleted member 114266]

Why does enforcing charity not work, and how can we alleviate scarcity? (I believe we can do the latter by simply being more efficient with our resources.

Forced Charity​

And worst of all, people who are being forced by the government to perform this ‘charity’ do not even get the satisfaction of having helped fellow human beings in need due to the impersonal nature of charity via government welfare programs. And the welfare recipients don’t feel grateful, because politicians and activists have convinced them that welfare is a government-given right, not a charitable gift.

 

[Xzi]

True capitalism has never been tried before. There should be a separation of money and state.

So like...the Federal Reserve, which is privately owned?

 

[Deleted member 608654]

Forced Charity​

And worst of all, people who are being forced by the government to perform this ‘charity’ do not even get the satisfaction of having helped fellow human beings in need due to the impersonal nature of charity via government welfare programs. And the welfare recipients don’t feel grateful, because politicians and activists have convinced them that welfare is a government-given right, not a charitable gift.

So Taxes are basically forced charity for government subsidized programs. No wonder why people hate having the fruits of their hard work taken by the government for the latter's ulterior motives.