Classic and mini versions of retro game systems have become popular to release onto the market, including the recently announced PlayStation Classic. With a very basic UI, and the chosen lineup of 20 games, many fans were disappointed and claimed that Sony's attempt at a plug and play throwback console was low effort. Complaints only furthered when it was revealed that Sony wasn't creating or reusing their own PlayStation 1 emulator for the Classic, like they had done with the PSP's POPS emulator, or with the PSP emulator that was found within the PlayStation 4 remaster of Parappa, or the emulated PlayStation 2 classic titles on the PlayStation 4 as well. Instead, Sony has opted use an emulator made by the public: PCSX ReARMed. At an event showing off the upcoming hardware, previewers were able to try out the PlayStation Classic, and found a menu listing stating that it uses open-source software, including PCSX ReARMed.

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[leon315]

Making money from an open sourced project... That´s just rich!

THAT'S MEANS $ONY's stealing Open source's project like TX??

 

[MaxiBash]

That's what I dith some time ago, installed a Raspberry Pi 3 in a PSone shell.
I dith many modification's to fit the RBpi 3 mainboard in the shell.
Added BT dongle for the DS4 controller and a 128gb filled with PSX games and more.

Holy shit, that looks amazing! I would still rather 3D print a case (or buy a broken PS1 Classic) just so I can stick a Raspberry Pi 3 in there. But you did an excelent job with modifying that PSOne.

Spoiler: Offtopic

(Why do you have such a weird signature... Seriously ._.)

 

[pasc]

So, not only did they steal every one of Nintendo's ideas up to this point, they wholesale stole open source work to make a commercial product.

Is it any wonder, that i have such an axe to grind with Sony when they continue to be financially successful in spite of doing such blatantly unethical shit like this?

Nope, isn't.

I'm just surprised they *need* to do it, ya know... considering "they made the psx" and stuff..
pft.

 

[DaFixer]

Holy shit, that looks amazing! I would still rather 3D print a case (or buy a broken PS1 Classic) just so I can stick a Raspberry Pi 3 in there. But you did an excelent job with modifying that PSOne.

Thank you, for your kind words.
I use a broken PSone for my project, first I want to use a old PSX shell.
But those DS4 20th Anniversary Edition where sold out, so I go for the PSone shell.
And I can still use wired PSX controllers on my PiStation, only rumble do not work.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

>steal nintendo's idea of small reboots of old consoles
>steal open source emulator and not give credit

sony = tx confirmed?

 

[Deleted User]

>steal nintendo's idea of small reboots of old consoles
>steal open source emulator and not give credit

sony = tx confirmed?

They do give credit. That's how the news got out.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

They do give credit. That's how the news got out.

Oh, they did? Cool.

 

[Alex4nder001]

So first Sony goes around suing the makers of Playstation emulators, and now it uses their work?
Also, it's making customers pay for software that's free and not to be paid for. I think the creators of PCSX should sue Sony instead.

 

[Deleted User]

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[Deleted User]

THAT'S MEANS $ONY's stealing Open source's project like TX??

Probably, yes.

 

[oxitran]

Yeah they did. or at least the person who provided it to nintendo did. There was no way they bothered to dump their own cartridge, it's a waste of time & more likely to give a bad dump.

There is no legal or moral reason why they need to dump it either.

Imagine your car is stolen and a few days later you find it while out walking and you manage to start it with your spare keys. There is no moral dilemma for you to drive it home while still asking the police to prosecute the people who drove it without your permission.

They aren't the first to do it either, I think it was one of the emulator game packs for the PS2 that did it as well. We know because they embedded a zip file on the disc with the roms and they left the readme.txt from the person who dumped it.



There are no good ps1 emulators, it will be passable. My credentials for knowing this are...

https://github.com/iCatButler/pcsxr/blob/7936d466c58f6f2603900fbbc9d18b56ac2e4b4c/libpcsxcore/gte.c

Talking about respecting licenses, that file was taken from software that isn't gpl licensed or compatible with the gpl in any way and included in the source code illegally. They also fucked it up in the process, so it doesn't work right.

mednafen psx is pretty great.

 

[Dimensional]

So not surprised they did that. Most companies use open source apps because it's easy to customize them for their proprietary means. However they aren't really making you pay for the emulators as much as they are making you pay for a license to play those 20 games on their shitty selection. But why do that when you already have all the good games, including the few on this PoS, either on your PSN account, physical copies, and backed up ones on your PC/Pi/PSP/Vita/Switch/Phone/DS/WiiU/XBOne/Fridge/Hubble Telescope/Voyager 2/NCC 1701-AAA.

 

[The Frenchman]

I don't see the reason to complain. They even aknowledge that they use itm why would they port their own emulator to a new hardware when people have made a flexible one anyway?

I mean it's not like the PS Classic will use much different tech than the Snes mini and such, they're all made to cost the cheapest possible to manufacture. They can't use the PSP emu nor the PSVita one or the PS4 emu for the simple reason that these emus were made to run on much more complex systems.

Porting them would be unecessary. When Hyperkin used emus and did not give credit I understood the complains. Here people are just trying to complain further about a product they deem bad because it's obviously going to be successful even though their little vision of what it should be isn't going to happen. Sorry guys it won't have Symphony of the Night built in, it was never going to have all the classics you'd wish and it's simple why, you can explain every game that wasn't put on this. Licensing and the fact that many big games got remastered or rereleased on PS4 recently obviously made some companies cold to the idea of redistributing their games through this mini console. (Chrash N-Sane Trilogy, Spyro Reignited, Castlevania Requiem...) Some games would simply be just not enjoyable, Gran Turismo for example, why would anyone wanna go back to GT for more than a few minutes. It's a type of title that when a new one is out you'd just play the new one and forget the older one. It's a staple of the original PlayStation but it's dated and frozen in time.

You're not fooling anyone bashing on Sony for using an open source emulator is purely arbitrary and is all caused by the library frustration... you know it.

 

[kuwanger]

The pi didnt show anything, SMARTPHONES did

That's certainly a possible valid opinion, but I was thinking more in the scope of price point and having something that would qualify as a computer. Most smartphones are substantially locked down and/or undocumented which makes turning one into a retro gaming device, desktop, file server, etc when the battery dies and/or the screen breaks. If you know of a resource to generally do that, though, I'd be interested since repurposing smartphones sounds like a cool idea.

 

[CheddaGuap]

Disappointing lineup, and they didn't even bother to use their own emulator. Anyone remember Bleem? Sony is against emulation of their games, yet use an emulator created by the public for their "new" console...GG Sony.

Edit: The best part is ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS a piece for the PS Classic. Great for business, just a shitty way of doing it.

OMG! I remember bleem from the 80"s, i thought it was the best thing ever back then until later i found out what emulators where. On top of that your right about sony being against emulators but pushed out bleem like it was the greatest thing on earth lol... Ahhhh the good ol days lol.

 

[the_randomizer]

OMG! I remember bleem from the 80"s, i thought it was the best thing ever back then until later i found out what emulators where. On top of that your right about sony being against emulators but pushed out bleem like it was the greatest thing on earth lol... Ahhhh the good ol days lol.

Best part is, Sony lost every single lawsuit with Bleem, and because of that, emulators are now legal.

 

[Illuminaticy]

Best part is, Sony lost every single lawsuit with Bleem, and because of that, emulators are now legal.

And if I remember correctly, Bleem went out of business due to the court fees. Fuckin sony.

 

[the_randomizer]

And if I remember correctly, Bleem went out of business due to the court fees. Fuckin sony.

Still, I'm glad Sony lost, and Bleem's sacrifice made it so emulators are now legal. They also lost against Connectix Gamestation, another win for consumers.

 

[WildDog]

This is the prime example why Sony doesn't even care when it comes to their user base.. The last good console they made was the PS3... With the PS4, you have to pay for the online and they make you live out of promise of "EXCLUSIVES!!!!" and "look we have titsaflops!!"

The PSX Classic is just an insult... They take the most basic emulator for Arm, they make some cheap as" non dual shock controller, they make an awful list of games... REALLY you put RAINBOW SIX???.. That game was HUGE but for PC, for the PSX it was a cheap game.

OMG! I remember bleem from the 80"s, i thought it was the best thing ever back then until later i found out what emulators where. On top of that your right about sony being against emulators but pushed out bleem like it was the greatest thing on earth lol... Ahhhh the good ol days lol.

From the 80s??? What are you talking about. It's a very late 90s emulator, i still have the original cd somewhere. The first game i played with it was Resident Evil 3, it was amazing to run PSX games on a K6-2

 

[CheddaGuap]

This is the prime example why Sony doesn't even care when it comes to their user base.. The last good console they made was the PS3... With the PS4, you have to pay for the online and they make you live out of promise of "EXCLUSIVES!!!!" and "look we have titsaflops!!"

The PSX Classic is just an insult... They take the most basic emulator for Arm, they make some cheap as" non dual shock controller, they make an awful list of games... REALLY you put RAINBOW SIX???.. That game was HUGE but for PC, for the PSX it was a cheap game.



From the 80s??? What are you talking about. It's a very late 90s emulator, i still have the original cd somewhere. The first game i played with it was Resident Evil 3, it was amazing to run PSX games on a K6-2

lol I meant to say 90's.. im 43 and to me it felt like a long time ago but yes sir you are right.