We got a glimpse of some new information about Nintendo's Switch Online Service yesterday during the Direct, but most of what was shown there was already known. To help shed a little more light on just what a subscription entails, Nintendo put a FAQ up on their site. The details are as follows:

• As already stated before the Direct, all Switch users (used to be only launch users) can get a 7 day free trial. This gives you access to online, voice chat, cloud saves, and the NES games.
• Those two wireless NES controllers are only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub.
• The full list of 20 playable NES games for subscribers was revealed: Soccer, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Dr. Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Double Dragon, River City Ransom, Ghost's N Goblins, Tecmo Bowl, Gradius, Pro Wrestling, Excitebike, Yoshi, Ice Hockey, and Baseball.
• Each month, a new set of games will be added to the group.
• October will add NES Open Golf, Solomon's Key, and Super Dodge Ball
• November additions are Mighty Bomb Jack, Twinbee, and Metroid.
• December brings Wario's Woods, Adventures of Lolo, and Ninja Gaiden.
• Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.
• If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

Source: Nintendo UK
Source: Nintendo of America

 

[Huntereb]

Save data is one more point of failure. Nintendo needs to keep that in mind when they are marketing this console to publishers. I won't claim to know much about how the 3DS did it, but seeing as how Nintendo already knows their console has been hacked in the first year of it's release, they're clamping down even harder.

Save data was encrypted with a console-specific key. In order to modify save data for exploitation, another exploit is required.

Nintendo is charging you for a service. All matchmaking in any online games does a handshake and authentication to their servers. Even if the games themselves run P2P, that's still bandwidth. Asking for free things that cost money is the pinnacle of entitlement. I've already stated how whining about it is like an adult pretending to be a petulant child.

It's bandwidth to connect to their connection test server when adding a network to the device. It's bandwidth to download game and system updates. It's bandwidth to access the eShop. It's bandwidth to access the News applet. Why do these services that have the potential of using monumental amounts of bandwidth continue to be free while peer-to-peer matchmaking, which requires mere kilobytes of data transfers and minimal server backends compared to other services, now cost money?

I'm done with this thread and with any other thread. I'm just going to sit by the sidelines and laugh at the petulant, whiny, entitled children who refuse to grow up, think about why things are happening and sit there and one sidedly complain without looking at the issue from a larger perspective. Enjoy waving your sticks at the shadows in the bottom of the cave, maybe you'll hit a bat.

>I have no more arguments so I admit defeat! Fuck my ass Nintendo, here's $20 to do so!

Sorry, but it's still shit

What he said.

 

[eyeliner]

To be fair, 20$ is pretty affordable, but considering that those who had the console before and had most of the now paid service, the paid service is now lacking. It's like they just went for the path of least effort. I mean, NES games, really? Why not Gameboy, while you are at it? Or better yet, Game and Watch.

Someone in this topic said that their games are overpriced. I agree. They don't make decent eShop deals for any decent Nintendo games, so there is little point in hoping to get a good deal on the eShop. Just buy physical and later resell.

 

[DeslotlCL]

lmao

They deserve it.

 

[wiewiec]

So, if one's sub goes haywire, there's the local save? I don't really see a problem, there. It would basically mean paying 20$ for a kickass NES emulator, then, as I don't have the time to devote to online gaming. Still, no thanks.

They’re local, but only way to back them up is to pay for this shitty „paywall” or hack console... this are two ways

 

[Huntereb]

lmao

They deserve it.

Just fuck my shit up fam.

 

[eyeliner]

They’re local, but only way to back them up is to pay for this shitty „paywall” or hack console... this are two ways

Really, how many times did you have to back up your save in any console game? This seems a brand new feature to users: complain for lacking save backups.

 

[Huntereb]

Really, how many times did you have to back up your save in any console game? This seems a brand new feature to users: complain for lacking save backups.

It's been an easily accessible thing since the Wii to be able to backup save data from the console itself to another storage medium. It may not be a requirement, but it's a thing we've had in the past that's only reason for non-inclusion is to lock it behind a paywall.

 

[eyeliner]

It's been an easily accessible thing since the Wii to be able to backup save data from the console itself to another storage medium. It may not be a requirement, but it's a thing we've had in the past that's only reason for non-inclusion is to lock it behind a paywall.

I can understand that, of course. It seems reasonable. I have never backed up a save, I believe.

 

[SwaGoat]

I didn't check every comment,but I'm really curious:

where do these rumors come from? (I'm not being a lawyer of Nintendo,I'd hate it if that was true,but misinformation is also something I dislike)

 

[the_randomizer]

Price isn't the issue, the lack of compelling content and features is what sucks ass.

 

[Supster131]

I didn't check every comment,but I'm really curious: View attachment 143353 where do these rumors come from? (I'm not being a lawyer of Nintendo,I'd hate it if that was true,but misinformation is also something I dislike)

Source: https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Nintendo-Switch/Nintendo-Switch-Online/FAQ-1374625.html

 

[SwaGoat]

Nintendo is either contradicting themselves or have different regulations depending on the region

source for my pic above: https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/22521/p/897

 

[DeslotlCL]

Price isn't the issue, the lack of compelling content and features is what sucks ass.

I mean, you are right. The price isnt the issue, is the lack of features that justifies it. But still, the price cant be defended for the same reason...

 

[PedroKeitawa]

lmao

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They deserve it.

I have leave a like on that video...more becouse Bowser was show as a good father then the Online system it self. So good job Nintendo at least you know how to make your character amazing. To bad the online is terrible. But in some remote part of my brain o hope they can fix this...the only problem is how much time before this happen.

 

[DeslotlCL]

I have leave a like on that video...more becouse Bowser was show as a good father then the Online system it self. So good job Nintendo at least you know how to make your character amazing. To bad the online is terrible. But in some remote part of my brain o hope they can fix this...the only problem is how much time before this happen.

I liked the animation too. Hell, i even think they put more effort in the animation than on their online system, which is sad...

 

[wiewiec]

Price isn't the issue, the lack of compelling content and features is what sucks ass.

Price is Ok, but what kind of crap they smole up there... I really do not wanna online play... but saves i really wishes that cloud backup be free since they do not give me another option and when i read today they delete it after not paying one month ehhhh sad

 

[MushGuy]

lmao

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They deserve it.

What's your defense for that, AbyssalMonkey ?

 

[WhiteMaze]

First - Sony allows 6 months after your sub ends, and since it's not a part of Gold, it's forever on Xbox. Your saves go with your account, and that could mean a weekend away at your mates on their console, what's your problem here - instant delete is a dick move by Nintendo, end of story.

Second - Nintendo's online stinks: compared to what Gold has always been, and what Plus has been since they started charging it's a shambles, almost hilariously bad.. certainly not worth paying for, whereas Plus and Gold are more of an evil necessity: you still begrudge paying for them, but at least you know you're getting a good service for your money.

Third - How much is the rrp of the NES mini? I feel I need say no more... (and I don't see most complaining about the NES releases anyway..)

The worst thing about PlayStation Plus, is the shit games no one wants that they offer for free each month..

But even that is better than what I'm seeing from Nintendo.

 

[deSSy2724]

"Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership."

NINTENOD WHAT ARE YOU THINKING !!!!!

Man.... definitively the lost and damned of the big three. I would rather pay twice the price than supporting this anti consumer sh** practice they throw at us and yet they complain about piracy, WTF?!?!?!?!

 

[godreborn]

Nintendo: "lick my ass, you little shits!"