Hacking Gateway Brick on b2 caught on camera finally :D

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this should be on the front page by now.They dedicated a front page news when gateway lied with their first reply, falsely stating that they didn't brick the consoles

Possible options:
a) Administrators haven't seen this yet.
b) Some one has hidden interest in protecting gateway
c) this could lower overall sales for the sponsor sites
 

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Someone should try and see if it bricks with the region free patch without going into diagnostics mode, because region free is all I really want.

I'd say with a 95% chance that it will in fact brick when using unofficial launcher.dats like the clones based off b2 or the region free patch, even when not using the diagnostic test. This was rather a confirmation why some legit Gateway users are getting bricks and it seems like it does brick legit users if they do a diagnostic test due to a flaw in the code.

The modified launchers will most likely brick no matter what, otherwise the brick code wouldn't serve any purpose.
 

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Thanks gamesquest1, you should send a mail to GW's staff directing their attention to it.

I hope they're gonna release the final 2.0 without this bug asap.
 

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I am perfectly cool with 2.0 final being delayed so they can address this issue.

My impatience has never paid off more before than it has now. I have never run the diagnostics test, not even once. Besides gamesquest1, I have probably rebooted more times than most people on GBATemp, to try and see if it would brick eventually under heavy use.

I'm still not going to downgrade to 2.0b1, though, since I've never run diagnostics. I think that's where the trigger is, and as long as I continue to avoid it, hopefully I'll be good.

Buying a Raspberry Pi today, though, just to be on the safe side.
 

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Very nice work there, knowing that Diagnostics might be the issue for legit GW users, I might finally dare to use 2.02b just to get my game updates and update my Streetpass application.

On the other hand, I'm a relatively new GW owner, so I have tons of game material yet to be played, I might just wait for 2.0 official, depends on when they release it though.

More communication from the GW team would really be appreciated, I for one haven't heard a comment from their side concerning:

DSiware and GBA titles not working in GW mode.
New savegame keys corrupting your savefiles on retail game cartridges
7.xx encrypted eshop releases

I personally don't think they can do much about any of these issues, but we'll see. My only problem is that in this situation, it wouldn't be wise to transfer my original 3ds to my FW4.4 3DS, as I would lose all these functions as well as my original savegame for Pokemon Y (as I couldn't load it on my gateway-ready 3ds anymore without corrupting, I'm also not aware of a conversion method (using Datel's Save tool f.e.)
 

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Very nice work there, knowing that Diagnostics might be the issue for legit GW users, I might finally dare to use 2.02b just to get my game updates and update my Streetpass application.

No, you didn't understand. The brick code added by gateway is still there, running on random moments. The diagnostic is just a FAST way to brick your console (you force the code to trigger it). You can always rely on your luck and keep using it. There are like 200 users (according to the poll in this site) using 2.02b, and only about 5 confirmed bricks (like 14 in the poll, but not all are confirmed). Which means you only have a 2,5% chance of being one of those guys. I don't like to gamble, maybe you do, or maybe you have the time/money to fix/buy a new 3ds when gateway bricks yours.
 
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I understood that, but the real risk seems to come from Diagnostics, read my statement again, I intentionally said "might be the issue" and "might finally dare to use" but I don't think I will really risk it, I will just stay patiently on my GW 1.2. (I had problems with 2.01b, Luigi's Mansion 2 was suddenly in Korean (after I started and saved in the correct language), I also had the saving issue 2-3 times, as EmuNAND doesn't really work in that version anyway, there's really no reason to use it atm.
 
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I understood that, but the real risk seems to come from Diagnostics, read my statement again, I intentionally said "might be the issue" and "might finally dare to use" but I don't think I will really risk it, I will just stay patiently on my GW 1.2. (I had problems with 2.01b, Luigi's Mansion 2 was suddenly in Korean (after I started and saved in the correct language), I also had the saving issue 2-3 times, as EmuNAND doesn't really work in that version anyway, there's really no reason to use it atm.
Diagnostics uses functions the Gateway normally uses, it just uses a LOT of them to test it, so the chances are much much higher. That doesn't mean it can't happen outside of diagnostics mode.
 

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On the other hand, we don't have similar evidence for a brick happening without the use of diagnostics. (By that i mean noone has caught that on camera yet)
 

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This is a littler concerning to me didnt know GW stuff bricked 3DS! How do I stop to makes sure my 3DS does not get bricked in the future? Is there any steps to take?
 

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Yes, download any launcher that isn't 2.02b and put that on your SD card, job done. Btw, try to read a little deeper into topics before you ask questions that have been answered countless times.
 

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THX you had done want I willing to do as fast as I can ubbrick my 3DSLL,and would you mind public the video on YOUKU?
In a longtime I feel guilty because I think the reason for brick is my operation of shutdown,but now all is clear before shutdown and red boot Ialso run the test

Well it's good to see that my theory may indeed be true, it's seems most bricks (if not all) probably ran diagnostics before they bricked, I can see why people wouldn't of related the 2, as after running diagnostics you can still boot into emunand, and you could in theory stay their for a long time without ever knowing that the nand has been locked, but I will say over the past 2 weeks I must have booted gateway mode well over a hundred times but I wasn't doing diagnostics test until last night, obviously I couldn't say it's 100% safe but it's becoming apparent that it could very well only happen when running diagnostics, it would be interesting to hear if any other users remember running diagnostics before they bricked so we can nail the cause down once and for all

public another video of how to unbrick it.This will help many people Pls

I will consider doing this but really the little tutorial is great and simple.
All you need is
A raspberry pi
And the ability to solder the SD adaptor,

Bkifft has done an amazing job with the software side of things it couldn't really be any simpler, you can go from bricked to restored in about 10 minutes
 

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The guide doesnt show the soldering though or am I missing something.

We trully appreciate all your work but if you do decide to do a video guide on how to unbrick you dont have to go to deep into it. Perhaps just a video of you doing it briefly stating the things needed like the PI and the soldered SD card/how it connects to the PI. As long as it gives people the idea and point of reference the text guide can take over from there. Just a thought
 

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The guide doesnt show the soldering though or am I missing something
True but there is plenty of guides available,it's only 4 points and I'm pretty sure it's un the Unbricking thread, as I said I'll think about doing a video, but I think I will give my 3ds a break, I do have someone who was asking to get their original 3ds un bricked so i might recorded the process if/when I do their console
 

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So I have read all but it seems if you use all legit Gateway files direct from there main website (http://www.gateway-3ds.com/downloads.html) and cards etc.. and don't ever boot up Diagnostic test then you will be OK on 2.02b?

Just out of curiosity the guy that did the test and the videos did he buy his card from a reputable seller from Gateways Resellers? Cause GW Sellers have a big price difference between them and not GW sellers for example:-

GW Seller:- http://www.teensy.co.uk/gateway-3ds-nintendo-3ds-flash-card-cartridge-58.html

GW None Seller:- http://www.r4pick.com/gateway-3ds-flashcart-1st-support-all-3ds-roms-games-i-261.html

Why the big price difference probably because there copy's or something? Did he do this?
 

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So I have read all but it seems if you use all legit Gateway files direct from there main website and cards etc.. and don't ever boot up Diagnostic test then you will be OK on 2.02b?
cant say for 100% sure but it looks that way, ill continue booting up b2 normally to see if it ever bricks, but idk, whatever you decide to so, just make sure you have a nand dump stored safe.......and ps i do offer the bricking service :ha: should anyone need it, but i am quietly confident that the bricks may only occur when running diagnostics

if you want to be extra safe stick to b1.
if you want a calculated risk you can use b2, but make sure you have your nand dump, and i would suggest you just stay out of the gateway menu full stop
if you feel like your invincible run diagnostics at every boot :wacko:

Just out of curiosity the guy that did the test and the videos did he buy his card from a reputable seller from Gateways Resellers?

yeah i got it from teensy and i have never had any issues at all with the card itself
 
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