Boy or Girl?

That's 100% a girl. A good looking one too.
What's with the cut eyebrow?

Well it seem you did it...

D:

... congrats.

[quote name='Ikki' post='3602503' date='Apr 20 2011, 06:19 PM']What's with the cut eyebrow?[/quote]
Catfight?

Lol, sorry, I couldn't help it.

Oh right. You were a boy, I see.

My first thought when i saw the image: It's a girl.
After examining the two first images a bit: Unsure
Third image: It's a girl, but somethings seems odd... My eyes says girl but my instincts think it is a boy :/

EDIT: Did they remove your adam apple or did they minimize it?

For some reason... wait... is it weird if i say elf??? [no offense intended...]
Slender face makes me think elf...

[quote name='CrimzonEyed' post='3602525' date='Apr 21 2011, 12:43 AM']My first thought when i saw the image: It's a girl.
After examining the two first images a bit: Unsure
Third image: It's a girl, but somethings seems odd... My eyes says girl but my instincts think it is a boy :/

EDIT: Did they remove your adam apple or did they minimize it?[/quote]

Women have adam's apples too, they just aren't as visible as a man's. If anything, the doctor would just make his/her adam's apple less visible.

My question is : breasts, socks or surgery ?

And by socks I mean any other arificial mean.

Guy.


You resemble someone I knew in high school.

hmmm, boyish girl, i think it's the facial structure, but i don't reckon people would get onto it when you're out and about.

I wish 'they' were real, but sadly, they're not.

The cut on my brow is a scar. I've had it since before I can remember.

For those asking about the adams apple:

That is actually something called the thyroid cartilage. I would assume that they could just cut some out. It would make the larynx (I believe) smaller, which should lead to a higher voice too, though that's not guaranteed (sooo many factors go into the voice). The hormone therapy may actually be enough to change the thyroid cartilage size. I would assume that if it required surgery though, it would have been done already.

[quote name='penguindefender' post='3602763' date='Apr 21 2011, 05:30 AM']I wish 'they' were real, but sadly, they're not.

The cut on my brow is a scar. I've had it since before I can remember.[/quote]

Anyway, 'nice job'

By the way, you've got some really amazing eyes !

From your torso up, you look like a girl, but the design of the jeans suggests guy :/

I still assume girl though.

Also, I do hope that you know that 'gender change' is just completely wrong. If you don't know that, it is. It's a crime against nature and a sin.

I showed the photo to a friend (I hope you don't care), he couldn't believe you weren't a girl.

i dont understand why you want to be a girl :S

whats wrong with being a boy Y;Y
i really doubt taking hormones and operations are healthy!

if you really feel like you are a girl inside you will find someone who will not judge you by your appeareance!!!

I saw on another website (can't remember which) the process from start to finish, and I must say that I am impressed at the transformation that you have gone through. I think you are a very lovely girl, and if I didn't know you use to be a boy before hand, I would've never suspected it. I wish you so much happiness in your life, and I feel like I'm talking like a 40 ear old mother, lol, even though I am a 21 year old gay guy =P

[quote name='Nathan Drake' post='3602766' date='Apr 20 2011, 07:35 PM']For those asking about the adams apple:

That is actually something called the thyroid cartilage. I would assume that they could just cut some out. It would make the larynx (I believe) smaller, which should lead to a higher voice too, though that's not guaranteed (sooo many factors go into the voice). The hormone therapy may actually be enough to change the thyroid cartilage size. I would assume that if it required surgery though, it would have been done already.[/quote]

You're right about what the Adam's Apple is. You're so wrong about everything else.

Yes, you can get a tracheal shave to reduce the size of the Adam's Apple. No, it does not affect your voice, and neither does hormone therapy. Your voice is your voice. The only way to change it is through training with a voice coach to learn about breathing, inflection, and general characteristics about how women speak (for example choice of words) than men do. It takes quite a lot of effort, patience and follow through. There is an operation (that is very dangerous and not performed in Western countries) that will tighten your vocal chords with the intention of raising the pitch of your voice. This operation is rarely successful, and usually results in the loss of your voice altogether. A woman's voice is not about -pitch- anyway. Both women's and men's voices actually fall into the same pitch range, with men generally able to hit a lower pitch and women a higher one. Simply raising the pitch of a man's voice into some bizarre falsetto range will not help him to sound like a woman.

As for hormone therapy, the main effect of it is the change in fat distribution on the body. Fuller cheeks (on the face and the bum), hips and thighs. In some transgendered people, it results in breast development -- but there are a lot of factors involved in that development. Part of it is your genetic family history (i.e. the breast size of your mother, grandmother, etc), part of it is you, part of it is the age at which you start hormone therapy, and part of it is maintaining a correct fluctuating dosage over time. The percentage of male to female transgendered people that gain any sort of appreciable breast development is very small, as there is no set factor that will cause them to happen. After three years of hormone therapy, you are able to see a plastic surgeon about getting implants. (A note to penguindefender: breasts play a large role in how society treats you as a woman, and you'll notice the difference. Just don't do something silly like getting a DD cup for your frame. As long as everything is kept in proportion, people will read you comfortably as female.)

Hormone therapy can also have an effect on your emotional state. It may be easier to cry, and/or feel strong emotional responses to things that you once did not. This also varies greatly from person to person, with more changes likely to happen the younger you start. It's really quite difficult to make generalizations at all, because the experience is quite different for every person that undertakes it. Some people come out looking like a genetic girl at the end of it, and some will always look like a man in a bad drag outfit.

As a general guide..

Hormone therapy does not change:

-Your facial hair. If it has started to grow, you will need to have it removed by a combination of laser/electrolysis. (The same applies vice versa for female to male. If she begins taking testosterone and facial hair development begins, it's not reversible.)

-Your voice.

-Your body hair in general. It may thin and become lighter over time, but wherever you had hair before you started, you will continue to have hair unless you get it permanently removed.


Hormone therapy does change:

-Your emotional state.

-Your fat distribution.

-Breast development.

Male to female transgendered people typically need to undergo a hair removal regimen to remove any unwanted hair (if you begin before the onset of puberty, then you don't of course.) Depending on the bone structure of their face, they may want to undertake elective surgery called FFS (Facial Feminization Surgery) to file down the bone around the jawline, change the hairline, make the nose smaller, even insert some extra fat into the cheeks to make them fatter. This costs between $20,000 and $40,000 depending on the scope of the surgeries you are interested in. There are breast implants of course, which can only be undertaken after 2 to 3 years on hormone therapy (it depends on your doctor, your dosage and development (or lack thereof). A tracheal shave may be necessary if you have a large Adam's Apple. Then there is the surgery "down below". A penectomy and orchiectomy (the inversion of the penis and removal of the testicles, respectively), and a vaginoplasty to make the neo-vagina look more like a proper vagina with labial folds. The neo-vagina will never produce lubrication as a real vagina does.

So as you can see, even in my short generalization, how difficult and long the process is. Hopefully it helps to set you straight and realize what is and isn't affected. I will note though, that for a female to male transgendered person, the testosterone they will take as part of their hormone therapy will help to lower their voice. Female to males tend to "pass" much more successfully due to the application of testosterone, as opposed to male to females, who have to spend much of their time undoing what their hormones have already done.

Ciao.

Girl

[quote name='jceggbert5' post='3602771' date='Apr 20 2011, 10:44 PM']Also, I do hope that you know that 'gender change' is just completely wrong. If you don't know that, it is. It's a crime against nature and a sin. [/quote]
Yes and will burn in hell for eternity.