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<blockquote data-quote="Guild McCommunist" data-source="post: 4861220" data-attributes="member: 177066"><p>I'm saying that you can make a game that can explore some complex themes and still be E or T rated. Like for a TV comparison, let's take Avatar: The Last Airbender (I could choose Korra but I wouldn't say it's as strong). On the front it's a fun show for that Y7 audience, but it's a lot deeper than that. There's overlying themes of genocide, war, just some dark ass shit that you wouldn't think of being in a "kid's show". Like Zelda offers a perfect universe for this but they have no balls to do it. It's why I liked Twilight Princess as much as I did. It wasn't exactly mature in terms of themes but it had some darker moments and was moody as fuck. In terms of atmosphere it's easily the best Zelda game and it has some truly cool moments. Then they step this all backwards with Skyward Sword which is so goddamn bland it hurts. You just seem to lack a fundamental understanding of maturity in terms of story or theme. There will always be room for light and fun games but sometimes we want something a bit deeper. It's why I always liked Sony games, because they span the spectrum. They have everything from your light and fluffy platformers like Crash Bandicoot or Ratchet and Clank to your more complex games like The Last of Us. They touch into every demographic a bit so you've got variety.</p><p> </p><p>Even if Nintendo could find a good writing staff and push out a straight up adult game with a new IP. That'd be a really ballsy move that'd be really great. But they really don't have the balls for it.</p><p> </p><p>Yes the bongos are gimmicky, yes the gun is gimmicky, yes the Wii itself is gimmicky. The Wiimote was by and far shit. The only games I'd say were actually fun with it were MadWorld and Red Steel 2. For everything else it was really goddamn awful. It's hard to deny you'd have rather played Super Mario Galaxy with a regular controller than a Wiimote. Or pretty much any of the top ten Wii games.</p><p> </p><p>Also I said your point sounds like if you believe something hard enough it'll just happen. You responded nonsensically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guild McCommunist, post: 4861220, member: 177066"] I'm saying that you can make a game that can explore some complex themes and still be E or T rated. Like for a TV comparison, let's take Avatar: The Last Airbender (I could choose Korra but I wouldn't say it's as strong). On the front it's a fun show for that Y7 audience, but it's a lot deeper than that. There's overlying themes of genocide, war, just some dark ass shit that you wouldn't think of being in a "kid's show". Like Zelda offers a perfect universe for this but they have no balls to do it. It's why I liked Twilight Princess as much as I did. It wasn't exactly mature in terms of themes but it had some darker moments and was moody as fuck. In terms of atmosphere it's easily the best Zelda game and it has some truly cool moments. Then they step this all backwards with Skyward Sword which is so goddamn bland it hurts. You just seem to lack a fundamental understanding of maturity in terms of story or theme. There will always be room for light and fun games but sometimes we want something a bit deeper. It's why I always liked Sony games, because they span the spectrum. They have everything from your light and fluffy platformers like Crash Bandicoot or Ratchet and Clank to your more complex games like The Last of Us. They touch into every demographic a bit so you've got variety. Even if Nintendo could find a good writing staff and push out a straight up adult game with a new IP. That'd be a really ballsy move that'd be really great. But they really don't have the balls for it. Yes the bongos are gimmicky, yes the gun is gimmicky, yes the Wii itself is gimmicky. The Wiimote was by and far shit. The only games I'd say were actually fun with it were MadWorld and Red Steel 2. For everything else it was really goddamn awful. It's hard to deny you'd have rather played Super Mario Galaxy with a regular controller than a Wiimote. Or pretty much any of the top ten Wii games. Also I said your point sounds like if you believe something hard enough it'll just happen. You responded nonsensically. [/QUOTE]
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