UPDATE: 32TB of Windows source code and betas have NOT been leaked

Thunder Hawk · Jun 24, 2017

the_randomizer said:
Good thing I don't have Windows 10. Probably good I never upgraded (even though I can through some...certain methods).

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/accessibility/windows10upgrade

They will force you on it... at some point...

the_randomizer · Jun 24, 2017

Thunder Hawk said:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/accessibility/windows10upgrade

They will force you on it... at some point...

You think that's wise of Microsoft, given that this leak happened? Windows 10 being blown open like this is certainly the least opportune time to update. I mean, this opens up a helluva lot of problems for people who update, ransomware, malware, yeah, Windows 10 update? Not until MS patches this.

Thunder Hawk · Jun 24, 2017

the_randomizer said:
You think that's wise of Microsoft, given that this leak happened? Windows 10 being blown open like this is certainly the least opportune time to update.

Have you seen the code yourself? All I have seen are just file names.

the_randomizer · Jun 24, 2017

Thunder Hawk said:
Have you seen the code yourself? All I have seen are just file names.

So you don't think people could use this to make ransomware? What's so big about this leak then?

orangy57 · Jun 24, 2017

"redstone builds"
they better come with minecraft installed

Deleted User · Jun 24, 2017

I already have the Windows 2000 source code, I think I'm fine with having just that.
Especially because this is 32 fucking terabytes.

Taleweaver · Jun 24, 2017

32 terabytes? Damn... Even by today's standards that takes a while to copy. Someone sure was confident not to get caught.

The source code part is interesting... this might lead to a scandal if there are backdoors for the NSA.

TotalInsanity4 said:
Can't wait until whateverthehellthatopensourcewindowsalternativeprojectwas gets a chance to study this

ReactOS? I was thinking that way as well, but wine development could benefit from it as well

lisreal2401 · Jun 24, 2017

This could be really big for Xbox One vulnerabilities.

TotalInsanity4 · Jun 24, 2017

Taleweaver said:
ReactOS? I was thinking that way as well, but wine development could benefit from it as well

Yeeeeeeah, that one!

Pluupy · Jun 24, 2017

So what could come of this for Windows users?

The Real Jdbye · Jun 24, 2017

Pluupy said:
So what could come of this for Windows users?

By the looks of the latest info in the first post, not much at all. It's just a neat curiosity.

HaloEliteLegend · Jun 24, 2017

Sigh of relief that this wasn't that big a data breach.

Psionic Roshambo · Jun 24, 2017

This is not good, I would recommend using a 3rd party AV and Firewall ASAP if your on Windows, turn off any services you are not actively using and in general trying to shrink your threat vectors.

HaloEliteLegend · Jun 24, 2017

Psionic Roshambo said:
This is not good, I would recommend using a 3rd party AV and Firewall ASAP if your on Windows, turn off any services you are not actively using and in general trying to shrink your threat vectors.

Only 1.2 GB was actual "source code" and it turns out most of it was for ancillary Windows drivers. No one's security should be compromised as a result of this, thankfully.

Psionic Roshambo · Jun 24, 2017

HaloEliteLegend said:
Only 1.2 GB was actual "source code" and it turns out most of it was for ancillary Windows drivers. No one's security should be compromised as a result of this, thankfully.

I would still up my security game, it's never a bad idea and this just has my danger sense elevated.

HaloEliteLegend · Jun 24, 2017

Psionic Roshambo said:
I would still up my security game, it's never a bad idea and this just has my danger sense elevated.

Hey, you can always do with more security!

Taleweaver · Jun 24, 2017

Pluupy said:
So what could come of this for Windows users?

To be honest: I don't think that much will happen. Remember that NSA leaks with backdoors that were leaked before? It took months before wannacry hit, and even that only damaged outdated computers.

The thing with source code is that it's not that hard to recognize a fatal flaw when you know it's there, but it's an entirely different thing if you don't even know it exists in the first place. Besides: it's not like the errors that are there allow direct abuse over the entire system. It only appears that way because it's these kind of errors (or rather: malware that abuses it) that get noticed and potentially even make the news.

I won't lie: the source code is a very valuable thing for hackers looking to abuse the system. However...thus far these were the only hackers who had a motive to look for them. With the source code revealed, it is also available to security departments of software companies. Up to this point, their work was mostly reactionary: find breaches, document them as detailed as possible and report it to microsoft in the hopes they have a better understanding of things. Now they can look at code as well, suggesting improvements before someone else abuses it.
(of course MS still has to listen, but in my experience, the ones doing the actual coding are more pragmatic than managers who want to hide all traces of this source code leak and thus ignore valuable feedback).

Ritsuki · Jun 24, 2017

So, basically nothing happened and the "leak" wasn't really a leak? Noice.

Jayro · Jun 24, 2017

ihaveamac said:
no it won't. the Wine project does not use code from leaked Windows source because that would cause major legal issues. much like the win2k leak they will probably investigate every code contribution made, and who's making it, else something from the leaked source makes it in and the project is sued.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j5q71/did_the_windows_2000_source_leak_contribute_in/

They don't have to copy-pasta the code, but they could very-well understand what it does, learn from it, and write their own. There's a very defined line between stealing code, and writing your own from looking at someone else's code. (Assuming you didn't plagarize the code line-for-line, of course)

ihaveahax · Jun 24, 2017

Jayro said:
They don't have to copy-pasta the code, but they could very-well understand what it does, learn from it, and write their own. There's a very defined line between stealing code, and writing your own from looking at someone else's code. (Assuming you didn't plagarize the code line-for-line, of course)

just reading the source could be dangerous for the project. if they even accepted code from anyone who had access to it that could still cause legal issues. Wine (and ReactOS) devs said they never looked at the win2k leak, and anyone who has is not allowed to contribute code to the project.

so, this does not benefit these projects in any way whatsoever, it just forces them to be extra vigilant on code changes. Wine devs do not want to do anything with the source code leaks.

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