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Its messed up hillary should of won they should really fix the electrol collage problem exspecially with things like this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...r-vote-donald-trump-us-election-a7487901.html that is redicoulus and just shows that our country is not a true democracy.
Yeah, I hate how there are checks and balances against the people living in more populous states overruling the interests of those living in less populated states! I mean, Californians are the only people that really matter, right? /s
 
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Oh no...are we still on about how the electoral college is the "most evil thing ever" (TM)?

Here's what I've said before on the matter.
Are you talking about the Electoral College? I don't see an issue with how it works. Perhaps it's dated, but it's surely better than just directly tallying the votes together. If we didn't have the Electoral College, California and Texas would dictate how our government runs. With it, the ideas and wants of people in smaller states like Ohio, the Carolinas and Utah are actually weighted fairly and evenly against people in larger states and cities like Chicago IL, Houston TX, or Los Angeles CA who have entirely different needs, and could screw over the smaller cities if we just counted the votes "equally".
 
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Really ?? God bless America? Are you sure ? :huh::unsure:
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Yeah.. Cause we need a incestuous rapist father of a transsexual form of himself to bless the US. (actually that makes a lot of sense....)

Also just to point out, YHWH is the same dude as Allah.
 
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You need to understand how bad Hillary Clinton would have been, yes, Donald Trump's a buffoon, but I don't feel like the USA was electing trump, I feel as if they were electing anyone that wasn't Clinton. She's a warmonger and she'd leave the country in the state of pure "when will we be killed", she's also very corrupt. I hate to argue against the democratic party, since that's where I stand mainly, but Hillary is a nightmare. Bernie should have won, but they had to screw themselves over by rigging it for him.
Yeah I was hoping bernie would win since he was way better than hillary but I wii take hillary over trump any day.

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1) we are a republic of states, not a true democracy
2) it stops california and new york from deciding the results of every election
3) it gives every state a voice, where the small ones would be completely ignored if it was popular vote system
Yeah but as voteing for a country president the votes should be counted up as the country as a whole plus the electrol collage is like what 200 years old?
 

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I heard that Trump said some anti-women things in the past and said it was all "locker room talk", I didn't give it much attention because I didn't care that much since I'm not american and stuff. Today I saw this on reddit and watched this on youtube. Well all I have to say about this is congrats to your new President.
 
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Yeah but as voteing for a country president the votes should be counted up as the country as a whole plus the electrol collage is like what 200 years old?
Does it count as "the country as a whole" if simply a few parts of it can out-voice the rest? Don't forget that there's more government than just the federal government. States have rights too. That's what the civil war was about.

Also, can we stop talking about how Hillary would have done better? She purgered herself after she didn't correctly handle classified information, and most people find her untrustworthy.

Whether Trump is a good president, we'll have to wait to find out. Some of his past actions are questionable, but his presidency plans sound good at least.
 

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Yeah I was hoping bernie would win since he was way better than hillary but I wii take hillary over trump any day.

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Yeah but as voteing for a country president the votes should be counted up as the country as a whole plus the electrol collage is like what 200 years old?

LOL, you do realise it was created for two reasons:
1) Keep the vote out of the direct hands of the people
2) Eliminate majority rule

#2 is an issue till this day.

Welp term limit is 200 years old anyway, let's get rid of that too. Lol

Anyway, what would it take to remove this? 2/3 of the states over ruling this, good luck with that!
 
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He's right in saying America first. It's just like putting your family first before strangers, no different here.
 

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President Trump needs to stay true to his word and start bringing back jobs back to USA.

He's right in saying America first. It's just like putting your family first before strangers, no different here.
But often the cost to have "America First" often imposes harm on Americans.
 

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Oh no...are we still on about how the electoral college is the "most evil thing ever" (TM)?

Here's what I've said before on the matter.
While I agree mostly, the College still at the very least should vote in proportion with the population of the state. It's hardly fair that some states get more votes per person when it comes to the Electoral College
 

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While I agree mostly, the College still at the very least should vote in proportion with the population of the state. It's hardly fair that some states get more votes per person when it comes to the Electoral College

Lol are you so against "super delegates" as well? It will never get removed because the states that are more rural don't want to lose their seat at the table.
 
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While I agree mostly, the College still at the very least should vote in proportion with the population of the state. It's hardly fair that some states get more votes per person when it comes to the Electoral College
But I would argue that hypothetically speaking even if you had a system like that (EC but votes are allocated based on an equal people per EC vote concept) that we still would be the same in terms of how actual electuons work since it still would be very swing state centric

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Lol are you so against "super delegates" as well? It will never get removed because the states that are more rural don't want to lose their seat at the table.
And the swing states dont want to lose Thier influence
 
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But I would argue that hypothetically speaking even if you had a system like that (EC but votes are allocated based on an equal people per EC vote concept) that we still would be the same in terms of how actual electuons work since it still would be very swing state centric

A much better solution would be to get rid of the winner take all aspect of the EC. Just because 51% of a state votes for a candidate, should not mean the remaining 49% of that state's population's votes should go to that candidate as well.
 

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While I agree mostly, the College still at the very least should vote in proportion with the population of the state. It's hardly fair that some states get more votes per person when it comes to the Electoral College
It goes by population. In smaller states like North Dakota, Wyoming etc they have less people so the votes are done for every 140k citizens and they have about 3 votes. In bigger states with more electoral votes like new york its for every 500k people(can't have too many votes) and they have about 29 votes in total because of the volume of citizens living there. It's about as close as giving misinformed people the voice they thought they'd have without resorting to mob rule IMO.
 
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