Hacking Info on IOSes

espositodnl86 · Sep 26, 2016

Is it safe to delete IOSes marked as "stub" by SysCheck (the "not patched" are the Nintendo original ones, if I understood correctly)?
Is there need to update - in some ways - IOSes?

Thanks for the infos!

GreyWolf · Sep 26, 2016

There's no need to remove stubs. They don't do anything except reset the console.

The official IOSes haven't been updated since SM 4.3 so the only ones you might need to change occasionally are custom ones for USB loading.

espositodnl86 · Sep 27, 2016

So... stubs are Nintendo empty IOSes that avoid user installing non original ones on particular slots (<200), right?

espositodnl86 · Sep 27, 2016

This is my SysCheck report... could you please check if everything is OK?

sysCheck v1.6.2 by Erik Spyder

Region: PAL
The system menu v514 is running under IOS58 (rev 6176)
Hollywood v0x21
Console ID:
Boot2 v4
Found 78 titles
Found 44 IOS on this console
Found 6 IOS Stubs on this console

IOS (revision),IOS Stub,Trucha Bug,ES Identify,Flash Access,NAND Access,Boot2 Access,USB 2.0
IOS3 (rev 65280),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?
IOS4 (rev 65280),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?
IOS9 (rev 1034),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS10 (rev 768),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?
IOS11 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS12 (rev 526),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS13 (rev 1032),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS14 (rev 1032),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS15 (rev 1032),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS16 (rev 512),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?
IOS17 (rev 1032),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS20 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS21 (rev 1039),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS22 (rev 1294),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS28 (rev 1807),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS30 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS31 (rev 3608),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS33 (rev 3608),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS34 (rev 3608),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS35 (rev 3608),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS36 (rev 3608),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS37 (rev 5663),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS38 (rev 4124),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS40 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS41 (rev 3607),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS43 (rev 3607),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS45 (rev 3607),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS46 (rev 3607),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS48 (rev 4124),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS50 (rev 14889),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS51 (rev 4864),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?
IOS52 (rev 15661),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS53 (rev 5663),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS55 (rev 5663),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS56 (rev 5662),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS57 (rev 5919),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS58 (rev 6176),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS60 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS61 (rev 5662),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS62 (rev 6430),No,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS70 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS80 (rev 16174),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS202 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS222 (rev 4),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS223 (rev 4),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS224 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS236 (rev 65535),No,Enabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled
IOS249 (rev 21008),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS250 (rev 21008),No,Enabled,Disabled,Disabled,Enabled,Disabled,Enabled
IOS254 (rev 65280),Yes,?,?,?,?,?,?

GreyWolf · Sep 28, 2016

espositodnl86 said:
So... stubs are Nintendo empty IOSes that avoid user installing non original ones on particular slots (<200), right?

They don't really block anything because you can replace them with a WAD manager. Their main purpose is to wipe out the mods already installed when you update. Official IOSes generally don't get stubbed, they just stop using them.

Can you use this SysCheck? The older ones don't have very good information in them.

espositodnl86 · Sep 28, 2016

Here you are!

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...appoggiato all'IOS58 (v. 6176).

Regione: PAL
Menu di sistema 4.3E (v514)

Data unita': 21.11.2009
Canale Homebrew 1.1.2 appoggiato all'IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
ID console:
Tipo Console: Wii
Paese canale Shop: Italy (83)
Boot2 v4
Trovati 80 giochi.
Trovati 50 IOS in questa console. 6 di questi sono stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): Non patchato
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS12 (rev 526): Non patchato
IOS13 (rev 1032): Non patchato
IOS14 (rev 1032): Non patchato
IOS15 (rev 1032): Non patchato
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): Non patchato
IOS20 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS21 (rev 1039): Non patchato
IOS22 (rev 1294): Non patchato
IOS28 (rev 1807): Non patchato
IOS30 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS31 (rev 3608): Non patchato
IOS33 (rev 3608): Non patchato
IOS34 (rev 3608): Non patchato
IOS35 (rev 3608): Non patchato
IOS36 (rev 3608): Non patchato
IOS37 (rev 5663): Non patchato
IOS38 (rev 4124): Non patchato
IOS40 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS41 (rev 3607): Non patchato
IOS43 (rev 3607): Non patchato
IOS45 (rev 3607): Non patchato
IOS46 (rev 3607): Non patchato
IOS48 (rev 4124): Non patchato
IOS50 (rev 14889): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 15661): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS53 (rev 5663): Non patchato
IOS55 (rev 5663): Non patchato
IOS56 (rev 5662): Non patchato
IOS57 (rev 5919): Non patchato
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS61 (rev 5662): Non patchato
IOS62 (rev 6430): Non patchato
IOS70 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS80 (rev 16174): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, Identificazione ES, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, Identificazione ES, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, Identificazione ES, Accesso NAND
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v65535
Rapporto generato il 28.09.2016.

espositodnl86 · Sep 30, 2016

GreyWolf · Oct 1, 2016

That looks fine to me. Your IOS58 is the current version and d2x v8 as 249[56]/250[57] is the current stable configuration. If for some reason you have trouble with launching Wii titleds from a HDD you might try d2x-v10beta52.

Yes, stubs are just dummy titles that reboot the console. They were only meant to delete cIOSes from what I can tell.

espositodnl86 · Oct 8, 2016

Is it OK to delete the following IOSes?

IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, Identificazione ES, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, Identificazione ES, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, Accesso NAND, USB 2.0

Thanks!

espositodnl86 · Nov 4, 2016

GerbilSoft · Nov 4, 2016

espositodnl86 said:
Is it OK to delete the following IOSes?

Those are all Hermes cIOS, so you can delete them if you don't use any homebrew that depends on them.

Zonta85 · Nov 4, 2016

It's ok to delete them.Right by now everything can be done with d2xcioses, no need for hermes.

ScarletDreamz · Nov 4, 2016

Zonta85 said:
It's ok to delete them.Right by now everything can be done with d2xcioses, no need for hermes.

the thing with this, its, when you "accidentally" update the wii even if its on 4.3 you can still update, it removes cIOS 249 and 250 and make it stubs.
thats why 202, 222, 223, 224 and 236 are always welcome, in my case, i got some custom cIos from 245 to 248.

Zonta85 · Nov 4, 2016

ScarletDreamz said:
the thing with this, its, when you "accidentally" update the wii even if its on 4.3 you can still update, it removes cIOS 249 and 250 and make it stubs.
thats why 202, 222, 223, 224 and 236 are always welcome, in my case, i got some custom cIos from 245 to 248.

No, because installing the IOSES you can set an higher revision number than Nintendo's preventing the stub installation, and right by now is very difficult to perform accieentally updates with the blocks provided by priiloader and by the usb loaders that doesn't care about the update partition inside the games.

I have too the IOS236 but only for compatibility with specific outdated homebrews that requires IOS36 rev v3351 instead of 3608

ScarletDreamz · Nov 4, 2016

Zonta85 said:
right by now is very difficult to perform accieentally updates

You must be new here, "Accidental Updates" are FAR MORE common on most consoles that you could mention, starting by the 3DS lol. and personally, i dont see the need to delete Hermes IOS, also, some versions of MMM or ModMii, Run on IOS 236, mostly due to cIOS 36 has AHBPROT, and gives those homebrew, full hardware access.

Crass · Nov 4, 2016

Delete IOS 50 to speed up your Wii.

Edit by Moderator :
Don't do that. that's dangerous !
It was a sarcastic answer, not a real thing to do. don't follow random info if you find this post on google search.

GerbilSoft · Nov 4, 2016

Crass said:
Delete IOS 50 to speed up your Wii.

Citation needed.

ScarletDreamz · Nov 4, 2016

GerbilSoft said:
Citation needed.

Im hopping this is sarcasm.

GerbilSoft · Nov 4, 2016

ScarletDreamz said:
Im hopping this is sarcasm.

How exactly would deleting IOS50 "speed up" the Wii?

Crass · Nov 4, 2016

It's an old meme, where ignorant users for some reason feel compelled to clean the IOS's on their systems, even though it literally has no effect on their system performance whatsoever. This led to the dangerous situation of people just randomly deleting critical IOS's from their systems leaving them in a bricked state. If you have to ask what IOS is safe and what to keep your already asking a stupid question and deserve to be mocked. Deleting IOS50 on System 3.4 is the equivalent to deleting the System32 folder in windows.

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