If the race of one of your beloved character's was changed would you still watch/read it?

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This offends me, just like female Ghostbusters, female Thor or black Captain America do. It's shameless pandering, anyone who doesn't see stuff like this as racesploitation or gendersploitation is a complete moron. I agree that we need diversity in media, but there is nothing inherently interesting in changing a character's gender or race. It doesn't provide any additional insight or a different perspective - it's cosmetic. There's absolutely nothing interesting in a character being white, being black, being asian, being a woman or being a man - those are not features of character or personality, they're physical traits. If the whole point of the sudden change is *just* to change that one physical characteristic then it's shameless pandering and it's deplorable - to paraphrase M.L. King, what matters is the content of one's character, not the colour of their skin.
 

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two words.

black. goku.
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I honestly would just ignore it.
If Black Panther, one of my favourite comic book heroes, suddenly turned white, I sure as hell would be upset. Same way I wasn't that happy with Johnny turning black. It would remind me of Michael Jackson actually.
Another one of my favourite heroes for example, Spawn, there's a white Spawn in one series and a black Spawn in another, they're different people, different characters.

Now, however, people want every character to be bisexual, to be this, to be that. Some people would probably be happy if their favourite characters could be more identifiable with them. A lot of series manage to pull off awesome characters with any gender and any sexuality, but changing characters once they are already established, is just wrong in my opinion.

I won't even mention the recent Ghostbusters because well, it doesn't even deserve a comment. z.z
 
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Why all the hate for the female ghostbusters? They're a new group, and I don't see what's wrong with it. The script was even penned by Aykroyd and Ramis, and Aykroyd, Potts and Weaver are all coming back.
 
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I think the person's acting skill is more important and if they contribute to the character you're going for. Nick Fury was originally white in the comics, but, honestly, I prefer the newer Nick Fury from the movies. I don't think he would be as fun and awesome without Samuel Jackson.
 

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I think the person's acting skill is more important and if they contribute to the character you're going for. Nick Fury was originally white in the comics, but, honestly, I prefer the newer Nick Fury from the movies. I don't think he would be as fun and awesome without Samuel Jackson.
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In the recent event of J.K. Rowling making Hermione as a black character, I would like to read what are the opinions of people here if your favourite character of X franchise was changed to a different race/skin colour?

As my username indicates "Saiyan" I'm a long time Dragon Ball fan so if Toei Animation, Shueisha or Akira Toriyama had decided to unexpectedly turn Son Goku to a westerner/white or black character I would respectfully quit watching because at that point it just wouldn't be the character I grew up with. I'd also want to add another aspect, when Toei Animation stops having Masako Nozawa voicing the Son family I might stop watch it altogether (she too is what makes Son Goku and the Son family so great). Simply put, don't change what's already established!

A great example is from the Fantastic Four where Johnny Storm was changed from a white personage to a black one and to some people this was seen as good and diversity but to the fans of the franchise who were accustomed to Johnny Storm being white they didn't take this well. And it's not racist to bring it up but rather how one loved the character that was changed for the PC crowd. Let's not forget Jimmy Olsen too was changed from black to white but instead of modifying the race of a long time character they could bring in new ones, though they don't.

P.S. And like the saying goes; If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

rowling never made her black, she only likes the idea of it. considering she usually described if a character wasn't caucasian, hermione is clearly white. also she never interfered when they cast the white girl so. dont get your panties in a bunch.

son goku is already a white as it gets man. literally eating rice with chopstics is the most asian thing he's everdone. barely a dbz character looks asian.

as for johnny storm. did you stop watching marvel moviescuse of the black nick fury? thought so. the problem with johnny storm is not that they changed his race or not even that they didn't hange the rest of the storm family with him. the problem is that johnny storm was literally always the clichee black guy in white skin. and now they made the one character that always acts all coo and smooth and hip and make him black, turning him into a real clichee.
why not ben or reed? or doom. no, they chose the one that would rile people up the most cause he has a still white sister and is the one that always acts the way white people imagine black people to act.


also, you're comparing entirely different scenarios.
fantastic four is an alternate dimension kind of deal. jhonny wasnt white all his life and then woke up black one day.
if they started dragonball over with a fresh cast of charaters and the goku one is now serious and dark skinned, just becuse he kept the goku name isn't saying this is THE son goku now. like in zelda. its always a link, but barely ever the same.

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I think the person's acting skill is more important and if they contribute to the character you're going for. Nick Fury was originally white in the comics, but, honestly, I prefer the newer Nick Fury from the movies. I don't think he would be as fun and awesome without Samuel Jackson.

movie nick fury is just barking orders and disappearing all the time.
where once he was a super spy, he now is that black police captain they made fun off in Last Action Hero.

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Like Crabbe in the movies, he was replaced by a black actor. Those things bother me.

but crabbe wasn't turned black. due to actor problems, the crabbe role was literally writen out and replaced by black slytherin #2.
since they never really called his name i think, some peole assumed he was crabbe now, but he was just another guy who filled an empty seat
 

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I'm mostly blind to racial descriptions. Whether Hermione is black or white, makes zero difference to me. I like her as a character either way, as an insufferable knowitall. Doesn't matter what she looks like when she's described like that :3
 

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Why all the hate for the female ghostbusters? They're a new group, and I don't see what's wrong with it. The script was even penned by Aykroyd and Ramis, and Aykroyd, Potts and Weaver are all coming back.
Are you saying the script was for an all female team while Ramis was still alive? If so, would you happen to have a source for that?
 

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Why all the hate for the female ghostbusters? They're a new group, and I don't see what's wrong with it. The script was even penned by Aykroyd and Ramis, and Aykroyd, Potts and Weaver are all coming back.
Let me quote a great thinker here, someone I truly admire.
Ghostbusters is [a series] about guys using guy magic. When women do magic, they need magic wands, spells and other bullsh*t - guys have to invent a whole [category of] make-believe guy science to justify it. (...) It's a movie about blue-collar garbage men busting ghosts, meaning garbage. (...) They're firemen, except for ghosts. If you replace the cast with women, you lose that blue-collar perspective.
That, and it's just not a property that needs a female perspective anyways - it's by men, for men. I wouldn't watch an Alien remake if Ripley was male - that's another film, it's called Predator. I wouldn't watch Indiana Jones if Indy was a woman - that's Tomb Raider. I wouldn't play Metroid if Samus was male - that's Halo.
Why won't we make it even more inclusive? Hell, let's make one of them a monkey! Let's make one of them half-ghost, f*ck it, it's just Ghostbusters, right? No, it's Ghostbusters Extreme, and it sucked - nobody remembers it.
When you make changes like this, you lose the connection to the core of the franchise. Not everything has to be "inclusive" - Ghosbusters needs the perspective of pseudo-scientific garbage men because that's the whole point. If you want a movie about women busting ghosts, go ahead, just don't call it Ghostbusters because it's not, just like The Evil Dead wasn't The Evil Dead because it wasn't Bruce Campbell's, it was about a whiny junkie girl. I wouldn't want any female-oriented franchise turned into a male-oriented one, I wouldn't watch Pretty Woman starring Leonardo Di Caprio, why would it possibly work the other way around? It doesn't.
 
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Let me quote a great thinker here, someone I truly admire.
That, and it's just not a property that needs a female perspective anyways - it's by men, for men. I wouldn't watch an Alien remake if Ripley was male - that's another film, it's called Predator. I wouldn't watch Indiana Jones if Indy was a woman - that's Tomb Raider. I wouldn't play Metroid if Samus was male - that's Halo.

When you make changes like this, you lose the connection to the core of the franchise. Not everything has to be "inclusive" - Ghosbusters needs the perspective of pseudo-scientific garbage men because that's the whole point. If you want a movie about women busting ghosts, go ahead, just don't call it Ghostbusters because it's not, just like The Evil Dead wasn't The Evil Dead because it wasn't Bruce Campbell's, it was about a whiny junkie girl. I wouldn't want any female-oriented franchise turned into a male-oriented one, I wouldn't watch Pretty Woman starring Leonardo Di Caprio, why would it possibly work the other way around? It doesn't.
Just wondering who that quote was from.
 

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