New USA President!

[TotalInsanity4]

My question is, why is it such a bad idea to want to make those who are not entering the country the legal way by obtaining work permits or other visas? Do things right and follow proper procedures. I don't want my neighbor to just walk into my yard and start doing as he pleases. That's just wrong. I wouldn't do it to someone else.
Also I don't believe every Muslim is bad, but restricting access for the safety of innocent people is a good idea. Just my opinion though. Don't hate me for it. Btw, I didn't vote for either one.

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Obviously that's preferable, since records can be tracked. However, the way things are now it's completely infeasible to track down undocumented persons without finding them through misconduct (the way we do it now) or community raids, which are a VERY slippery slope

 

[the_randomizer]

My question is, why is it such a bad idea to want to make those who are not entering the country the legal way by obtaining work permits or other visas? Do things right and follow proper procedures. I don't want my neighbor to just walk into my yard and start doing as he pleases. That's just wrong. I wouldn't do it to someone else.
Also I don't believe every Muslim is bad, but restricting access for the safety of innocent people is a good idea. Just my opinion though. Don't hate me for it. Btw, I didn't vote for either one.

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Some people have very strong opinions and think that illegal is somehow a race, it isn't, a crime's a crime. Legal immigration I'm okay with, and before people say "but those who fled England during the 17th century illegally immigrated", that's impossible; there were no laws to break or obey regarding immigrating to the US That being said, people think that other people should immigrate to the US regardless of legality. That, and the process to becoming a legal immigrant should be at least lessened so the process is smoother, so they can transition easier.

Again, I agree, illegal immigration should be monitored stricter, but at the same time, more people should be allowed to make legal immigration smoother.

 

[Haloman800]

http://www.snopes.com/carrier-jobs-to-mexico-despite-trump-deal/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rs-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.html

Not going to deny, the rating system is sometimes kind of arbitrary in PolitiFact, but there are also multiple writers and the example you gave (the 0 percent income tax until 1913) was corrected after readers brought it to their attention.

Caution and scrutiny is healthy when it comes to the press. Thanks at the very least for not saying "shut up it's fake news"

I stated he has saved jobs in the US with Ford and Carrier, nothing you posted refutes that. Even your Snopes link admits he saved 1,000+ jobs.
#MAGA

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

My question is, why is it such a bad idea to want to make those who are not entering the country the legal way by obtaining work permits or other visas? Do things right and follow proper procedures. I don't want my neighbor to just walk into my yard and start doing as he pleases. That's just wrong. I wouldn't do it to someone else.
Also I don't believe every Muslim is bad, but restricting access for the safety of innocent people is a good idea. Just my opinion though. Don't hate me for it. Btw, I didn't vote for either one.

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We need to get immigration under control. This is one of the few jobs the government was originally supposed to do. If we are really going to bring these people here we need to do it right in order to keep ourselves safe first. Again like he said America first.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I stated he has saved jobs in the US with Ford and Carrier, nothing you posted refutes that. Even your Snopes link admits he saved 1,000+ jobs.
#MAGA

Except that pesky little fact that most of the jobs that were leaving are still leaving

We also don't know the details of how he convinced them to stay, which, while not necessarily sinister or cause for worry, still makes it feel a little shady

 

[el_gonz87]

My question is, why is it such a bad idea to want to make those who are not entering the country the legal way by obtaining work permits or other visas? Do things right and follow proper procedures. I don't want my neighbor to just walk into my yard and start doing as he pleases. That's just wrong. I wouldn't do it to someone else.
Also I don't believe every Muslim is bad, but restricting access for the safety of innocent people is a good idea. Just my opinion though. Don't hate me for it. Btw, I didn't vote for either one.

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BBN! Couldn't agree more, illegal immigration is a problem, and stating that does not make one racist.

BTW, Rock Chalk, hoping for another classic game this Saturday.

 

[BlueFox gui]

i ALREADY SAY AND I WILL SAY AGAIN
FANK WILL TRUP EVERYTHING

 

[TotalInsanity4]

i ALREADY SAY AND I WILL SAY AGAIN
FANK WILL TRUP EVERYTHING

I think you meant "Fump will truck everything"

 

[BlueFox gui]

I think you meant "Fump will truck everything"

thank you......
FUMP WILL TRUCK EVERYTHING

 

[el_gonz87]

thank you......
FUMP WILL TRUCK EVERYTHING

Hahaha maybe for Brazil. He's gonna make America great again!

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Hahaha maybe for Brazil. He's gonna make America great again!

I know that in this case you're probably saying it sarcastically, but can we get off of the "Make America Great Again" slogan? We all know that it was a publicity stunt and all he's going to do is make businesses richer

 

[BlueFox gui]

Hahaha maybe for Brazil. He's gonna make America great again!

but...
Brazil is not in America?
Or did Trump say the bottom is not America anymore?
XD

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I know that in this case you're probably saying it sarcastically, but can we get off of the "Make America Great Again" slogan? We all know that it was a publicity stunt and all he's going to do is make businesses richer

america never will be grate, it always have racist people, violence, drugs, bad people
and i don't know right, on the one hand it is good but on the other hand it is bad.
IT'S GOOD THAT TRUMP MAKE SOME MAGIC FOR DOLLAR TO FALL, I WANT TO BUY A NINTENDO SWITCH!

 

[SomecallmeBerto]

Except that pesky little fact that most of the jobs that were leaving are still leaving

We also don't know the details of how he convinced them to stay, which, while not necessarily sinister or cause for worry, still makes it feel a little shady

Yeah that part has me worried too. I'm sure he used money or tax breaks in order to convince them to stay.

 

[SahierKHLover]

Are you moving? Lol

no my family might get kicked but thats none of your concern I am just happy to see people NOT against Islam when other muslims see this they feel happy that at least some people aren't braindead

 

[el_gonz87]

no my family might get kicked but thats none of your concern I am just happy to see people NOT against Islam when other muslims see this they feel happy that at least some people aren't braindead

Lol getting kicked out?? If you are here legally, that's not a possibility, but you can fear the boogeyman if you want (waste of time).

BTW the overwhelming majority of people against Islamic Extremism are not against Islam. Just because someone supports Trump, doesn't make them a bigot.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Doesn't make it any less right. To misconstrue it as racism is the problem. He's not stating that all of Mexico are druggies/drug lords and rapists. Just that, with the surge of illegals entering (not even just Mexicans) we face this issue. You want to cry and scream racism and ignore the issues, that's your problem.

it literally STILL IS RACIST because it is not true, not for mexicans in their entirety and not for mexican immigrants specifically.

 

[el_gonz87]

it literally STILL IS RACIST because it is not true, not for mexicans in their entirety and not for mexican immigrants specifically.

racism
noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the varioushuman racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement,usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has theright to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior tothe others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such adoctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

None of his statements were generalizing on race, they were describing his perception of the problem with illegal immigration (a subset of people from a specific country, not a race). These were not statements about Mexicans in general, and the whole quote alluded to the fact there was good people in Mexico, but they are not the ones crossing the border.

This is another example of the PC BS going on all over the globe.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-on-obamacare/

The "T's" won't have to worry about a sudden loss, according to the Trump administration.


Not necessarily, but do you honestly believe he will strip away their rights? Besides, he's already on the path to repealing Obamacare (the link above serves as evidence), which is something he's been saying he'll do for a long time. If this trend continues (the trend being that he lives up to what he's been promising), he will not back down on his promise to preserve LGBT rights.

irregardless, even a non sudden loss of coverage will kill every post transition trans person that doesn't magically come up with permanent hundreds of dollars to pay for hormone pills out of their pockets.

and once more, he's not just been promising to repeal this and that, he's also promised alternatives and he's been saying he had them like 18 months ago already. additionally, he's also promised several things that would directly contradict one another.

to make it a little more visual, he's breaking up the goddamn foundation first, without putting in anything to keep everything above it from crashing.

give it a month or two for the crashing to start. for import goods to suddenly become kinda expensive and for companies to not be able to sell their export goods as well as they used to. give paychecks and employment rates a moment to reflect what he's doing just there.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

racism
noun

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the varioushuman racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement,usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has theright to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior tothe others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such adoctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

None of his statements were generalizing on race, they were describing his perception of the problem with illegal immigration (a subset of people from a specific country, not a race). These were not statements about Mexicans in general, and the whole quote alluded to the fact there was good people in Mexico, but they are not the ones crossing the border.

This is another example of the PC BS going on all over the globe.

He literally said that the Mexican government was intentionally sending the worst of their population to the US, which insinuates to his supporters that the Mexican immigrants we have here are rapists and drug lords. And yes, Hispanic is a race, which is what the majority population of Mexico is

 

[RevPokemon]

And yes, Hispanic is a race, which is what the majority population of Mexico is

Technically it is an ethnicity not a race. You can be Hispanic and be of any race (for example Dominicans).

He literally said that the Mexican government was intentionally sending the worst of their population to the US, which insinuates to his supporters that the Mexican immigrants we have here are rapists and drug lords.

All of this is very true in terms of what he was saying.