Why do I feel that the downfall of gaming has got to do with GPU.

[Yil]

I do have one 4790 and 970 for now(traded some parts in the process). But most 3a are not close to those on the wii u

 

[Hells Malice]

Normally I make a snarky tinfoil hat comment, but instead

are people really this fucking stupid? Please remove yourself from the gene pool.

 

[Yil]

Normally I make a snarky tinfoil hat comment, but instead

are people really this fucking stupid? Please remove yourself from the gene pool.

Specify. Is it about another hardware competition? Or is it the title? Or is it that I do not like where 3a is going.

And actually I might not be keeping my humanity for long. Goodbye mortals.

 

[Hungry Friend]

I'm one of those people who isn't particularly knowledgeable about PCs so I generally stick to consoles, but I do plan on upgrading my PC in order to make it essentially the ultimate emulation machine. I don't care if some shit has been downgraded for console versions of games as long as it runs well enough for the gameplay to stay intact/not negatively affect the controls. I think PC gaming is becoming more and more popular in large part due to consoles now having many of the negatives of PC gaming(patches/updates, DLC, annoying OS bullshit etc etc.) without any of the benefits of having a more open environment.

The PS2, GC, Xbox and DC were the last systems that can truly be called traditional plug & play consoles although there were online options in Xbox mostly but some PS2 & DC games as well. Pretty graphics are not only overrated but way way too fucking expensive and like I said earlier, art direction is what's really important. For example, Super Mario Bros 3 is an NES game but it still looks fantastic imo and the same can be said for a ton of other classics.(FF6, CT, Super Metroid, Suikoden 2, MGS games; I could go on)

 

[G0R3Z]

I'm one of those people who isn't particularly knowledgeable about PCs so I generally stick to consoles, but I do plan on upgrading my PC in order to make it essentially the ultimate emulation machine. I don't care if some shit has been downgraded for console versions of games as long as it runs well enough for the gameplay to stay intact/not negatively affect the controls. I think PC gaming is becoming more and more popular in large part due to consoles now having many of the negatives of PC gaming(patches/updates, DLC, annoying OS bullshit etc etc.) without any of the benefits of having a more open environment.

The PS2, GC, Xbox and DC were the last systems that can truly be called traditional plug & play consoles although there were online options in Xbox mostly but some PS2 & DC games as well. Pretty graphics are not only overrated but way way too fucking expensive and like I said earlier, art direction is what's really important. For example, Super Mario Bros 3 is an NES game but it still looks fantastic imo and the same can be said for a ton of other classics.(FF6, CT, Super Metroid, Suikoden 2, MGS games; I could go on)

You need a pretty decent GPU to Emulate GC and PS2 smoothly. If you want to run it at a high resolution with Anti-aliasing etc. then it needs to be pretty good.

 

[TheLoneWolfGamer]

These days, we got androids that can emulate ps1. The day is not far when we could be holding a brick of wonders.

 

[emmanu888]

You need a pretty decent GPU to Emulate GC and PS2 smoothly. If you want to run it at a high resolution with Anti-aliasing etc. then it needs to be pretty good.

Actually those are more reliant on your CPU rather than the GPU

 

[Sakitoshi]

^^ this
Good luck trying to emulate PS2 and GC/Wii with only a good GPU. you need the best CPU you can get and then look for a mid range GPU.
Hell, even for PSOne/N64 you need a decent CPU.

and all the ones that are saying that you are fine with a moderate PC. you are right, but you are also not maniac enough. most graphics whores aim for 4K nowdays.

 

[Bimmel]

Oh, it's about PCs. I thought Nintendo was doomed. Again.

 

[p1ngpong]

Think about it people.
Nvidia and AMD want us to buy high end graphic card so they can make profits, and for that they ask companies like ea to make c**p like cod which use lots of gpu powers. They hate indie and nintendo because it is more of fun than graphics.

The Wii U has failed because the Wii brand is toxic, because it was marketed poorly and because its library has no mass market appeal. You don't need to make up silly conspiracy theories in your head about this to excuse Nintendos failings, it just makes you look like a stupid fanboy and I am not trying to insult you, its just how a thread like this comes off.

The Wii U has an AMD chip in it by the way genius, so yeah.

 

[G0R3Z]

^^ this
Good luck trying to emulate PS2 and GC/Wii with only a good GPU. you need the best CPU you can get and then look for a mid range GPU.
Hell, even for PSOne/N64 you need a decent CPU.

and all the ones that are saying that you are fine with a moderate PC. you are right, but you are also not maniac enough. most graphics whores aim for 4K nowdays.

I'm not a maniac, nor can I afford to have a 4K efficient PC. People who aim for 4K are just idiots when the standard is so premature.

 

[goober]

Kids these days are so clueless. PC gaming and technology in general has NEVER been cheaper. Ever. You get far more bang for buck and leeway these days than EVER. And that's not even considering how terribly inflated the USA economy and most others are these days compared to the 80s, 90s and even early 2k.

Nvidia released a great power efficient competent gaming card for the last three generations. Two of which didn't even need extra power to be relatively awesome. A great boon for boutique and economy builds from clueless PC gamers. The price was pretty darn good, too.

Also, PC gaming is the epitome of VALUE if you know what you're doing. Games are cheaper, consistently; go on sale consistently and have greater discounts when on sale consistently. So any premium you pay, when you build your own, is offset the first year if you're actually gaming on the system. Not to mention how versatile and customizable they are.

So, sorry, clueless troll. PC gaming is in its golden years while console gaming is in another rutt, especially now that most games make it to PC and whatever console exclusives that exist aren't very good, compelling or fresh. I used to game on console and PC because only an idiot would choose unless they couldn't afford or have proper retail access to one or the other. But these days I find myself not caring at all about Xbox One or PS4 (almost caved into the hype/excitement with the PS4 until I realized Sony is being VERY slow with anything and third parties likewise are being lame) and finding myself gaming on PC and handhelds more than ever.

Gaming in general is more affordable than ever and it definitely still applies to PC gaming, more than ever.

 

[G0R3Z]

Kids these days are so clueless. PC gaming and technology in general has NEVER been cheaper. Ever. You get far more bang for buck and leeway these days than EVER. And that's not even considering how terribly inflated the USA economy and most others are these days compared to the 80s, 90s and even early 2k.

Nvidia released a great power efficient competent gaming card for the last three generations. Two of which didn't even need extra power to be relatively awesome. A great boon for boutique and economy builds from clueless PC gamers. The price was pretty darn good, too.

Also, PC gaming is the epitome of VALUE if you know what you're doing. Games are cheaper, consistently; go on sale consistently and have greater discounts when on sale consistently. So any premium you pay, when you build your own, is offset the first year if you're actually gaming on the system. Not to mention how versatile and customizable they are.

So, sorry, clueless troll. PC gaming is in its golden years while console gaming is in another rutt, especially now that most games make it to PC and whatever console exclusives that exist aren't very good, compelling or fresh. I used to game on console and PC because only an idiot would choose unless they couldn't afford or have proper retail access to one or the other. But these days I find myself not caring at all about Xbox One or PS4 (almost caved into the hype/excitement with the PS4 until I realized Sony is being VERY slow with anything and third parties likewise are being lame) and finding myself gaming on PC and handhelds more than ever.

Gaming in general is more affordable than ever and it definitely still applies to PC gaming, more than ever.

True that. Many great games are seeing the light of day on PC with bigger and better features, like extra effects, modding and massive customisation menus. Console gaming is stuck in a rutt with rehashing the same games with 'remasters'. I played Shadow of the Colossus, and I played Uncharted. Why do I need them again on PS4?

 

[Yil]

Kids these days are so clueless. PC gaming and technology in general has NEVER been cheaper. Ever. You get far more bang for buck and leeway these days than EVER. And that's not even considering how terribly inflated the USA economy and most others are these days compared to the 80s, 90s and even early 2k.

Nvidia released a great power efficient competent gaming card for the last three generations. Two of which didn't even need extra power to be relatively awesome. A great boon for boutique and economy builds from clueless PC gamers. The price was pretty darn good, too.

Also, PC gaming is the epitome of VALUE if you know what you're doing. Games are cheaper, consistently; go on sale consistently and have greater discounts when on sale consistently. So any premium you pay, when you build your own, is offset the first year if you're actually gaming on the system. Not to mention how versatile and customizable they are.

So, sorry, clueless troll. PC gaming is in its golden years while console gaming is in another rutt, especially now that most games make it to PC and whatever console exclusives that exist aren't very good, compelling or fresh. I used to game on console and PC because only an idiot would choose unless they couldn't afford or have proper retail access to one or the other. But these days I find myself not caring at all about Xbox One or PS4 (almost caved into the hype/excitement with the PS4 until I realized Sony is being VERY slow with anything and third parties likewise are being lame) and finding myself gaming on PC and handhelds more than ever.

Gaming in general is more affordable than ever and it definitely still applies to PC gaming, more than ever.

I was saying that 3a require over priced hardware to run smooth. Indie is the future, but they will not survive alone.

 

[G0R3Z]

I was saying that 3a require over priced hardware to run smooth. Indie is the future, but they will not survive alone.

In my opinion you're a bit wrong there. Indie makes up a large chunk of PC gaming but AAA games are always going to be there. The big companies do churn out some good games like Bethesda Softworks, CD Project Red, EA (most of the time) and ubisoft has some good titles when they're not released prematurely. PC gaming is what it is because of that diversity; there is literally a type of game for everybody, no matter what type of gamer you are. I can't say the same thing about the current consoles, as good as some of their titles are.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Kids these days are so clueless. PC gaming and technology in general has NEVER been cheaper. Ever. You get far more bang for buck and leeway these days than EVER. And that's not even considering how terribly inflated the USA economy and most others are these days compared to the 80s, 90s and even early 2k.

Reminds me of when everyone was complaining about how expensive the Wii U was.

Spoiler

Of course video card companies want us to buy video cards.

That doesn't make any sense to me.

Because this is the Internet and people are stupid, it is sadly necessary for me to point out that the above statement is a joke.

 

[Hungry Friend]

I think an i7 4790K+either a GTX 970 or a 7970 should be more than good enough. I basically need an entirely new PC because I have one of those cheap, crappy AMD processors so I need a brand new MB too along with a better PSU. I don't have all the details down yet but as far as the CPU and GPU, I think those 2 should serve me well for a long time, especially since I'm really only gonna use it for emulation and maybe a few new games here and there. I'll probably get more RAM as well. I know that's overkill but I want it to last me at least 4-5 years.

 

[Yil]

In my opinion you're a bit wrong there. Indie makes up a large chunk of PC gaming but AAA games are always going to be there. The big companies do churn out some good games like Bethesda Softworks, CD Project Red, EA (most of the time) and ubisoft has some good titles when they're not released prematurely. PC gaming is what it is because of that diversity; there is literally a type of game for everybody, no matter what type of gamer you are. I can't say the same thing about the current consoles, as good as some of their titles are.

Let's not forget that many 3a can barely run even with nvidia or igpu(low texture, but they still support many games fine), despite both xbox one and ps4 run on amd.

 

[endoverend]

If we're talking about the downfall of gaming, I think it has more to do with AAA developers getting into the habit of releasing broken, unfinished games just to pump out another entry in a well-selling franchise and earn the money while performing little to no optimization. Focus on graphics rather than making a solid game could also have to do with it.

 

[Vipera]

We're not. PC gaming is officially more profitable than console gaming.

You're gonna need some source there, because last time I checked le entitled PC masterrace was complaining loudly about games that didn't have a -80% tag near the title and were rigging charity projects like HB in order to spend even less.